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Greatest NCAA basketball coach in the country right now? In my opinion I would say yes, but would love to hear others thoughts.
 

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I think he is. Every player that has graduated for him has been to the final four. That's awesome.
 

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He has certainly been able to manufacture victories in spite of setbacks. Can you imagine how good they would be if everyone was healthy?
 

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Don't know if anybody saw this but Oregon is getting ready to throw a lot at izzo to get him to be there new coach. I don't think there is anyway he leaves.
 

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Oregon's about to offer him everything short of a soild gold pooper to get him to come to the West Coast.
 

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How are you going to rule out Coach K.?

Duke has been virtually non-existent for a better part of the 2000's.

Don't know if anybody saw this but Oregon is getting ready to throw a lot at izzo to get him to be there new coach. I don't think there is anyway he leaves.

I don't think he leaves either.
 

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How are you going to rule out Coach K.?

I have to agree...never been a fan of Duke (UNLV!) and neither for Coach K. But coach K has a good team every single year. He has had to adapt to the 'one and done' era and still puts out a good team every year. The team is in the top20 (usually top10), or flirting with the top10-20 every year for 25years! Izzo is defintely one of the best coaches, but I believe coach K and the program he has built is better.

thats coming from a self-proclaimed Duke-hater
 

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At the least he needs to change his name to Tom "Mr. Final Four" Izzo

yeah... that's the thing with sports where the playoff COMPLETELY overshadows the reg. season... which SHOULD be much more important than some silly three week crap shoot....

I'd like to see the best reg. season records over this span... Coach K obviously deserves some mention too
 

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K is one of the best but I'd go izzo, Roy Williams, coach k. I put Williams ahead of k cause since he got to unc Roy has basically been pimp slapping k
 

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Just a snippet from goduke.com;

Three National Championships (1991, 1992, 2001)
12 National Coach of the Year honors (eight seasons)
Seven National Players of the Year (nine honors)
Six National Defensive Players of the Year (nine honors)
25 NCAA Tournament bids
21 All-America selections (35 honors)
10 Final Four appearances (third all-time)
11 ACC regular season championships
11 ACC Tournament championships
760 total victories (296 ACC wins)
429 weeks ranked among the nation’s top 25 teams
367 weeks ranked among the nation’s top 10 teams
93 weeks ranked No. 1 in the country
71 NCAA Tournament victories (first all-time)
40 NBA Draft selections, including 21 in the first round
15 NBA Lottery picks

That is Coach K., Duke stats only, and at the start of this season. What else will he add by the time this year is over?
 

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Neither Izzo nor Coach K are adding another national championship. I know that.

maybe, maybe not...but this year coach K has added another acc regular season championship, acc tourney championship, another sweet 16, another final 4. he does it year after year after year; whether he is loaded with nba caliber talent or not.

I'm going out on a limb and saying Duke is going to take it, I think they will win it by dominating the boards and their outside shooting. Butler can win, because they are not as 'cinderella' as ppl keep saying, they are a good solid team. I think Butler will need to shoot lights out to beat Mich. St and Duke. I believe Mich St leads the big 10 in rebounding, which will force Butler to shoot a high percentage in order to win. Duke is rebounding the ball really good now, and has a better offense than Mich St. I think Butler can squaek by Mich St with good shooting, but might have trouble keeping up with Duke's offense.

that being said...where the hell is UCLA???
 

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He doesn't exactly do it year after year. This year was the first time they've been past the sweet 16 since 2004. And don't start on the lack of talent thing with duke he recruits many high school all americans. Duke has not done a good job developing the talent lately
 

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Beat me to it KPENN, the Dukies have been "down" (for them) for a few years.....Don't sleep on West Virginia, the way they guard people, they could win the whole thing.
 

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Beat me to it KPENN, the Dukies have been "down" (for them) for a few years.....Don't sleep on West Virginia, the way they guard people, they could win the whole thing.

west virginia has some injuries...
 

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He doesn't exactly do it year after year. This year was the first time they've been past the sweet 16 since 2004. And don't start on the lack of talent thing with duke he recruits many high school all americans. Duke has not done a good job developing the talent lately

the sweet 16 is a measure of success for MOST college programs. How many sweet 16's has coach K been to since 1980? I think Izzo has 5 or 6 final 4's total...at one time coach K went to 5 straight final 4's. As said previous, he has had to adjust to the 'one and done' era which has brought back closer the pack, but he has a great incoming class next year and should be in a better spot then where they are now. I'll take coach K over Izzo, or Williams. those coaches are good, dont get me wrong, but coach K has proven, sustained success over a long period time.
 

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418 wins at Kansas and 176 at Carolina, the second-most at each school behind Phog Allen and Smith, respectively
A record of 869-199 in 31 seasons as a collegiate head coach and assistant coach
Seven Final Fours, the fourth-most in history behind John Wooden, Smith and Krzyzewski
Nine 30-win seasons, the second-most all-time (and 16 seasons with 25 or more wins)
19 seasons with 20 or more wins, including every year except when he won 19 in his first year at both Kansas and Carolina
Three consecutive 30-win seasons, the first time Carolina has accomplished that
55 NCAA Tournament wins, the third-most all-time behind Krzyzewski (71) and Smith (65)
73 NCAA Tournament games, tied for the third-most in history
20 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances, officially the second-longest streak in NCAA history behind Smith's 23
20 consecutive seasons with a win in the NCAA Tournament, the only coach to accomplish that
Seven seasons as the National Coach of the Year (1990, 1991, 1992, 1997, 2005, 2006 and 2009), eight years as conference Coach of the Year (1990, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003 and 2006)
The 2003 recipient of the John Wooden Legends of Coaching Award
One of three coaches (with Frank McGuire and Larry Brown) to lead two different schools to the national championship game, but the only coach to lead two schools to two appearances in the finals (Kansas in 1991 and 2003; Carolina in 2005 and 2009)
Four ACC regular-season championships in six seasons, tied for the fourth-most in ACC history (Smith won 17 in 36 years, Krzyzewski 11 in 29, McGuire six in 24 and Vic Bubas four in 10)
13 conference regular-season championships and 17 times in 21 years finishing either first or second in the conference standings
Winning his 500th game on Dec. 9, 2006, in his 19th season (only coach to do so in less than 20 years)
Winning more games than any coach after eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 seasons
64 more wins than any other coach in their first 21 years
72-24 record in ACC regular-season games
165 wins in his first 200 games at an ACC school, more than any coach in history
285-27 record at home, a combined winning percentage of 91.4 at Allen Fieldhouse and the Smith Center
His teams have been ranked No. 1 in the nation in 10 seasons and at least No. 2 in the country in 15 of 21 seasons
In six years at Carolina, the Associated Press has ranked the Tar Heels in the Top 25 in 109 of 115 polls (all six exceptions were in 2005-06, although UNC finished that year ranked No. 10). That includes 79 Top 10 rankings, 70 times in the Top 5 and 24 weeks as the No. 1 team in the country.
Teams have averaged 80 or more points 18 times in 21 seasons
Coaching four National Players of the Year, 13 first-team All-Americas, eight conference player or athletes of the year, two Bob Cousy Award winners, 25 first-team all-conference players, 33 academic all-conference selections and 19 NBA first-round draft picks.
Keep in mind roy's been coaching almost 10 less years then k
 

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Ask Kentucky how that worked out for them

kentucky had young players...the same players thought they won the game(louisville?) when they actually just tied the game up. Wall and Cousins were very 'green' I dont see those same type of mental mistakes at Duke, not saying it doesnt happen, but I just dont seem to see it.

in the end, I dont care if duke wins or loses, I dont like Duke. But I can acknowledge they have the premiere college basketball program in the country.


More steady and consistant than UNC :)
 
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418 wins at Kansas and 176 at Carolina, the second-most at each school behind Phog Allen and Smith, respectively
............Keep in mind roy's been coaching almost 10 less years then k

how many national titles did he win at Kansas? Who did he lose to in 1991? btw I remember that game, and all he had was Paul Pierce, who couldnt knock off Duke by himself.(who had just beat the undefeated UNLV team)
 
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how many national titles did he win at Kansas? Who did he lose to in 1991?

He has 2 since coming to unc and k has 0. Roy has out recruited him and out coached him. Head to head Roy has been owning k.
 

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the sweet 16 is a measure of success for MOST college programs. How many sweet 16's has coach K been to since 1980? I think Izzo has 5 or 6 final 4's total...at one time coach K went to 5 straight final 4's. As said previous, he has had to adjust to the 'one and done' era which has brought back closer the pack, but he has a great incoming class next year and should be in a better spot then where they are now. I'll take coach K over Izzo, or Williams. those coaches are good, dont get me wrong, but coach K has proven, sustained success over a long period time.

I hope you also realize that Coach K has coached at Duke 15 years longer than Izzo has been at MSU. Plus Izzo is 8 years younger than Coach K.
 

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I hope you also realize that Coach K has coached at Duke 15 years longer than Izzo has been at MSU. Plus Izzo is 8 years younger than Coach K.

I'm still trying to figure out how this went from the Tom izzo thread to kiss coach k's ass thread
 

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I'm still trying to figure out how this went from the Tom izzo thread to kiss coach k's ass thread

Me too...Coach K hasn't done much of anything in the 2000's and has gotten straight pooped on by UNC year after year.
 

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Me too...Coach K hasn't done much of anything in the 2000's and has gotten straight pooped on by UNC year after year.

I guess a 2001 national championship and a 2004 final four doesn't meet the requirement for "much of anything". I'm not trying to hijack this thread, Izzo is a phenomenal coach. But, c'mon people, if you wanna say (as Fitz did) that they're down relative to the standards they set in the 90's, that's fine. But to say that a program that won a title in the 2000's didn't do anything in that decade is simply foolish.

Also, since Roy came to UNC, he has the split the series with K 7-7, unless I missed a game; not exactly getting "straight pooped on".
 
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