St John's (69) at ND (68) Game Thread

[BGIF]

Irish down by 3 early 2nd half. Abromaities has 15 and Hansborough 13. ND winning the boards 17-13.

 

[BGIF]

Live game coverage on ESPN360.com

 

[BGIF]

Gody's in street clothes.

ND down by 4, Nash in double figures.

 

[BGIF]

ND down by 1 under 2 minutes

 

[BGIF]

Abromaitis buries a 3 for the lead at 1:25 mark

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

Abromitis and Nash are stepping up big, which is a good sign. I was expecting more from Jackson with Gody out.
Just need to play tough the final minute.
Go Irish

 

[BGIF]

TIme out. ND up by 2 with 1:11 left

 

[BGIF]

St John's 3 pointer for 1 point lead

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

Big free throws by Nash - up 1. Come on D

 

[BGIF]

Burrell (SJU) fouls out. Nash at the line for 2

 

[BGIF]

ND by 1

 

[BGIF]

SJU time out 22 seconds left.

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

Horrible ending.

 

[BGIF]

Kennedy ties it at the foul line

 

[BGIF]

SJU by 1 as ND throws up a pair of air balls at the end. Great "D" by SJU.

SJU 69 ND 68

 

[nd1988]

this is all bs...brey has to go...he may be a great guy but christ.......his time management and use of the bench is horrible.....

 

[NDinL.A.]

this is all bs...brey has to go...he may be a great guy but christ.......his time management and use of the bench is horrible.....

Don't you have to actually use the bench in order to criticize his 'use of bench'?

 

[BGIF]

this is all bs...brey has to go...he may be a great guy but christ.......his time management and use of the bench is horrible.....

Starter Tory Jackson was 1-10 from the field. A pretty poor 2-10 would have made ND a winner.

Easy to jump on Brey but he doesn't shot the ball. 1-10.

As a team ND shot 46.5 from the floor without Jackson they shot 57.6.

Pretty sharp number for a crummy coach without the All-American star.

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

While I didn't see the whole game, I thought the team looked good and pretty cohesive without Luke - maybe I'd even say they play more like a team without him.
But, for probably the tenth time this season I was extremely frustrated with Brey's use of time outs. How can they seemingly never have any left in the final minutes of close games?
It will be interesting to see how they grow or give up against Louisville. I think they'll be confident and play tough, maybe catching Louisville on a downer.
Anyway, I guess not much matters now until the Big East tourney; because at this point winning that is about their only realistic chance to get a bid.

 

[nd1988]

Starter Tory Jackson was 1-10 from the field. A pretty poor 2-10 would have made ND a winner.

Easy to jump on Brey but he doesn't shot the ball. 1-10.

As a team ND shot 46.5 from the floor without Jackson they shot 57.6.

Pretty sharp number for a crummy coach without the All-American star.

you're right..he doesn't shoot the ball...but he recruits them...Gody has all american stats but seriously....do you see him excelling at the next level? ND's men b-ball program is no good at all. brey will not recruit the star player who will play one year and leave..that is his problem as well..

 

[nd1988]

While I didn't see the whole game, I thought the team looked good and pretty cohesive without Luke - maybe I'd even say they play more like a team without him.
But, for probably the tenth time this season I was extremely frustrated with Brey's use of time outs. How can they seemingly never have any left in the final minutes of close games?It will be interesting to see how they grow or give up against Louisville. I think they'll be confident and play tough, maybe catching Louisville on a downer.
Anyway, I guess not much matters now until the Big East tourney; because at this point winning that is about their only realistic chance to get a bid.

that has been an issue for the past 3 or 4 years..horrible...good call

 

[nd1988]

Don't you have to actually use the bench in order to criticize his 'use of bench'?

you're right......it was hard to word that....you know what...he should keep peoples on the bench and let the towel boy play instead...poeples gives guys all around the world "hope" to play college ball at ND...its like watching a comedy flick when he plays and the sad part is, brey allows it...

 

[BGIF]

.. brey will not recruit the star player who will play one year and leave..that is his problem as well..

ND is NOT going to issue a scholarship for the one year player. You need to find a different team as a change in coach isnt going to change the school's mission.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Dayton's coach

 

[nd1988]

ND is NOT going to issue a scholarship for the one year player. You need to find a different team as a change in coach isnt going to change the school's mission.

change the school's mission? to be a below average team.....plz dude...brey can't coach ball...get over it

 

[BGIF]

change the school's mission? to be a below average team.....plz dude...brey can't coach ball...get over it

I didn't comment on Brey's abilities, pro or con. I responded to your point that

".. brey will not recruit the star player who will play one year and leave..that is his problem as well.."

That's not Brey's call nor his replacement's despite your specious rant. No coach at ND can get a scholarship for the one year player.

 

[PADOMERNUT]

I didn't comment on Brey's abilities, pro or con. I responded to your point that



That's not Brey's call nor his replacement's despite your specious rant. No coach at ND can get a scholarship for the one year player.

nd1988, BGIF is absolutely correct. While Brey has many faults, not getting the one and dones is not one of them. Roy Williams could be our coach and we would still not get them. That is the school's decision, not the coach's

 

[irishfan]

Swarbrick has recently spoken about this, and is allowing the "one and dones" to potentially come to ND.

“Even if it’s a highly talented player that you think has the potential to be gone in a year, that’s not a reason not to recruit them,” Swarbrick said. “We would not shy away from them for that reason, because you never know what will happen. Maybe they’ll find out that year they’re not ready. Maybe they’ll have an injury problem during that one year and they have to take a second or third year.

“What’s not okay for us, what won’t work for us, is somebody who is so sure that’s their path that they’re not going to engage in the academic side of the university. What you see with too many of those guys is they sort of do what they have to do for the first semester, and then don’t even go to school the second semester. They’re signed up for something – but by the time they’ve flunked out, the season’s over. Obviously, that’s not going to work at Notre Dame. We don’t have any interest in that and would never be in the mix for a guy who’s thinking that way – because one of the things we’re going to tell them is, you’re going to work hard on the academic side. You’ve got to be prepared to do that. And some number of people, they’re going to say, ‘Eh, I really don’t want to.’ ”

 

[donjuan]

Swarbrick has recently spoken about this, and is allowing the "one and dones" to potentially come to ND.

Well, end of discussion on that. But I still see a lack of importance on trying to recruit the 'one & done'ers', kind of including them all into the category that will just drop out of school after the semester, so let's just not recruit them. Afterall, they all drop out right?

Is there such a thing of a player who could qualify to be a 'one & done 'er' yet still place importance on his education while there? Kind of like ROUS's, I don't think they exist. If so, Brey likes the small white shooting types that play no defense 'cause they "fit his system better." --Which is complete BS IMO... Just like "9-9 puts us right in the thick of things" comment. Mike Brey needs to go back to Duke and see how well they accept mediocrity. (and please, I'm not comparing ND to Duke but rather the attitude it takes to win)

 

[BillyIrish]

There are plenty of schools that compete without "one and done" players. Inexplicable empty possessions in critical situations, lack of defensive continuity and intensity, and a general perception of ND not being tough enough are all flaws that coaching impacts.

Mike Brey has done a great job of taking ND to this point. However, you can only remain in a holding pattern for so long. I don't think he gets the axe, but for the first time, if ND misses the tourny, the seat will be warm.