A Hug For Longo

[IrishBlood81]

After reading a lot of articles about this dude I'm totally stoked! I mean I had no idea the impact that such an unknown position could have on a team. For Swarbrick to say that the Defense had

weight loss on the defensive side was "frankly a little shocking" in 2009, players averaging double-digit pound reductions in-season

Damn that explains A LOT!
and hopefully with Longo in we won't get gasses in the 4th QRT as we did before. So I'm happy


South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: Longo bringing a different approach to Irish conditioning

ND Football: Longo punishing Irish now to get results later - The Elkhart Truth - Elkhart, IN


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[vinnymac2402]

Its the old saying my coach had if u aint puken u aint training hard enough

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I really think Kelly's entire staff is full of winners, but I'm going to try and stop myself from jumping the gun.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I really think Kelly's entire staff is full of winners, but I'm going to try and stop myself from jumping the gun.

That's the spirit!!!!

 

[mbeckha]

Its the old saying my coach had if u aint puken u aint training hard enough

If you are pukin that means you are not conditioned.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Maybe learning is the science, and the application with out of shape athletes is the art.

 

[IrishBlood81]

I really think Kelly's entire staff is full of winners, but I'm going to try and stop myself from jumping the gun.

Imma agree with you on this one. After all the interviews and things I've read/seen. I'm extremely hopeful!!!

Notre Dame Football — Kelly hopes to avoid "dysfunction" in coaching staff - The Elkhart Truth - Elkhart, IN


@mBeck this is a positive thread about Longo if you have something against or think hes no good please give us the reasons and links or what not.

@vinny please don't just blab in a negative way. and if you would type correctly it would give you a whole lot of respect.

but both ya'll calm down!


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[HereComeTheIrish]

Uhhhh boy....here we go.

Que up "Power Lifter" rant.....

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Rant away.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Rant away.

Not I, little deer.... Matthew is due to go nuts here in t-minus....3......2......1.....

 

[vinnymac2402]

i appologize to everyone i just dont take well to be insulted. Mbeckha i am sorry if at anytime i may have hurt your feeling an u have a good night

 

[mbeckha]

It's not worth my time. Enjoy!

 

[mbeckha]

i appologize to everyone i just dont take well to be insulted. Mbeckha i am sorry if at anytime i may have hurt your feeling an u have a good night

You can not hurt my feelings espically over topic I am extremely educated on. I am always open to futher my growth in learning and understanding new protocols and scientific methods in this field. If Longo offered any addition to this growth I will be the first to compliment. On that note, he has not added anything that I havent seen succeed and fail at various different programs. People based thier idea of what works by whether a team is winning or losing. That my friends is silly. The University of Florida bases their training around the same philosophy that I have, but so does Michigan State. Michigan State does not always win and neither did Notre Dame when Mickey Marroti ( current UF S&C coach) was here utilizing that same training that is winning championships in florida. In the end, It is all about science when maximizing athletic potenial. Given other variables such as the athlete recruited, who is the coach, what thier game plan is, how well they are prepared will determine championships, not qacky meatheads (not pertaining to anyone on here seriously) who think making your athletes puke is the golden road to success. Mark my words. Let that marinate on your brain and bring me something knowledgeable. GO IRISH!

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

You can not hurt my feelings epically over topic I am extremely educated on. I am always open to further my growth in learning and understanding new protocols and scientific methods in this field. If Longo offered any addition to this growth I will be the first to compliment. On that note, he has not added anything that I haven't seen succeed and fail at various different programs. People based their idea of what works by whether a team is winning or losing. That my friends is silly. The University of Florida bases their training around the same philosophy that I have, but so does Michigan State. Michigan State does not always win and neither did Notre Dame when Mickey Marriott ( current UFO S&C coach) was here utilizing that same training that is winning championships in Florida. Let that marinate on your brain and bring me something knowledgeable. GO IRISH!

Please, let's not preach to be "extremely educated" and then throw out the drivel you just produced, Matthew.

Who the hell anointed you the "Board S&C Coach"???? There are many philosophies out there, many of which have produced excellent results across the country, but every time I see someone say something which differs from yours, or Urbs.....or Dantonio's.....they need to go check themselves.

Note to you, Matthew....Your voice is not the only one here. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'd suggest you'd not force yours on others....especially when in the end, you'll just force your damn web site on us again which will not happen because I'll delete it when I see it. Matthew, let this serve as a moment of pause and reflection. Do you want to be a member of this site? If so, I'd suggest you check "yourself"....not the other way around.

 

[CuerVo0220]

You can not hurt my feelings espically over topic I am extremely educated on. I am always open to futher my growth in learning and understanding new protocols and scientific methods in this field. If Longo offered any addition to this growth I will be the first to compliment. On that note, he has not added anything that I havent seen succeed and fail at various different programs. People based thier idea of what works by whether a team is winning or losing. That my friends is silly. The University of Florida bases their training around the same philosophy that I have, but so does Michigan State. Michigan State does not always win and neither did Notre Dame when Mickey Marroti ( current UF S&C coach) was here utilizing that same training that is winning championships in florida. In the end, It is all about science when maximizing athletic potenial. Given other variables such as the athlete recruited, who is the coach, what thier game plan is, how well they are prepared will determine championships, not qacky meatheads (not pertaining to anyone on here seriously) who think making your athletes puke is the golden road to success. Mark my words. Let that marinate on your brain and bring me something knowledgeable. GO IRISH!

Well it seems to me Longo knows what he's doing. This not his first rodeo. He's been doing this for a while at a few different places, and has been doing it well. I don't see how you can look at how programs were before and after he got there and not see a possitive difference, why would ND be any different. This coaching staff didn't come here loose nor were they hired to do so. They win everywhere they go and on every level. We should be jacked, and if you want to hold back, go ahead. But this Die-Hard-Fan is hopping aboard this party train. It's going to be a fun ride!!!

 

[WabashFalcon]

Please, let's not preach to be "extremely educated" and then throw out the drivel you just produced, Matthew.

Who the hell anointed you the "Board S&C Coach"???? There are many philosophies out there, many of which have produced excellent results across the country, but every time I see someone say something which differs from yours, or Urbs.....or Dantonio's.....they need to go check themselves.

Note to you, Matthew....Your voice is not the only one here. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'd suggest you'd not force yours on others....especially when in the end, you'll just force your damn web site on us again which will not happen because I'll delete it when I see it. Matthew, let this serve as a moment of pause and reflection. Do you want to be a member of this site? If so, I'd suggest you check "yourself"....not the other way around.

HereComeTheIrish... I'm gonna let ya finish... but Longo has one of the best lifting programs of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Walks off stage, takes massive swig of Hennisey. Stumbles. Vomits in parking lot.

 

[mbeckha]

HereComeTheIrish... I'm gonna let ya finish... but Longo has one of the best lifting programs of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Walks off stage, takes massive swig of Hennisey. Stumbles. Vomits in parking lot.

Why? Please explain in detail.

 

[mbeckha]

Well it seems to me Longo knows what he's doing. This not his first rodeo. He's been doing this for a while at a few different places, and has been doing it well. I don't see how you can look at how programs were before and after he got there and not see a possitive difference, why would ND be any different. This coaching staff didn't come here loose nor were they hired to do so. They win everywhere they go and on every level. We should be jacked, and if you want to hold back, go ahead. But this Die-Hard-Fan is hopping aboard this party train. It's going to be a fun ride!!!

What has He been doing that you are so impressed with?

 

[bigedefense]

CuerVo0220, I am jumping on that party train with you!!! I am excited about what Coach Kelly and his entire staff are doing. Coach Longo is shaking things up and that, IMO, is a GREAT thing. I am like the rest of IRISH nation, unhappy with 6-6 seasons. Einsteins definition of insanity is doing the same things while expecting different results. So Coach Longo is pushing these gifted athletes in ways that they are not used to being pushed. I think there was some mention of "pukin" earlier. Well, maybe these athletes are getting that 6-6 attitude "puked" out of them and they can hopefully soon go to the "training table" and get some 12-0 put into them. Thats my opinion!

 

[mbeckha]

Please, let's not preach to be "extremely educated" and then throw out the drivel you just produced, Matthew.

Who the hell anointed you the "Board S&C Coach"???? There are many philosophies out there, many of which have produced excellent results across the country, but every time I see someone say something which differs from yours, or Urbs.....or Dantonio's.....they need to go check themselves.

Note to you, Matthew....Your voice is not the only one here. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'd suggest you'd not force yours on others....especially when in the end, you'll just force your damn web site on us again which will not happen because I'll delete it when I see it. Matthew, let this serve as a moment of pause and reflection. Do you want to be a member of this site? If so, I'd suggest you check "yourself"....not the other way around.

What was not educated about my dribble. I do not write it if it has not been scientifically proven to work. Please give credit to the proper people at the University of Florida and Michigan State, such as Mickey Marroti and Ken Mannie. I dont not ant to be the only voice in here, but if there is going be a debate (this is a discussion board) then I would like a crediable response. I like to learn others opinions but sometimes it just seems they love this or that for not appearent reason. I do not make any money off my website and youo are just trying to low ball me. I am fine with that, although you should know that website is set up for innnercity kids to recieve free personal training info and workout programs. I have paused and reflected, and all I can think is you have been intimidated by the fact I have a tremedous amount of knowledge on the subject. Please do not take my years of education, experience, strength coach and time, and hours reviewing clinical studies over these topics affect our relationship.

 

[mbeckha]

CuerVo0220, I am jumping on that party train with you!!! I am excited about what Coach Kelly and his entire staff are doing. Coach Longo is shaking things up and that, IMO, is a GREAT thing. I am like the rest of IRISH nation, unhappy with 6-6 seasons. Einsteins definition of insanity is doing the same things while expecting different results. So Coach Longo is pushing these gifted athletes in ways that they are not used to being pushed. I think there was some mention of "pukin" earlier. Well, maybe these athletes are getting that 6-6 attitude "puked" out of them and they can hopefully soon go to the "training table" and get some 12-0 put into them. Thats my opinion!

I am excited as well with Coach Kelly, I believe he is a winner.

How is Coach Longo shaking things up?

 

[bigedefense]

His workout seems to differ from what the players have done in the past. That should be an easy assumption because each strength coach is going to bring his/her own personality to the workout. You seem to be very knowledgable on strength and conditioning, so I am sure that you know that our muscles need to be challenged in different ways to reach maximum potential. I am not a professional strength and conditioning coach. I am merely a high school football coach, but I do have my Ed. Specialist degree in Health/ Physical Education. From what I have read that Coach Longo is doing lifts and exercises that these players have either never done, or have not done much. Again, I am not trying to debate, argue, sound like I know it all, or anything like that. I am just happy that things are being done differently, and not for the sake of doing it different, but for the quest of another NC. PLease do not think that I am trying to be a tale hole about this, because I am not. I am just giving my opinion based on what I have done at my coaching stops in the back roads of Mississippi.

 

[NDinL.A.]

What was not educated about my dribble. I do not write it if it has not been scientifically proven to work. Please give credit to the proper people at the University of Florida and Michigan State, such as Mickey Marroti and Ken Mannie. I dont not ant to be the only voice in here, but if there is going be a debate (this is a discussion board) then I would like a crediable response. I like to learn others opinions but sometimes it just seems they love this or that for not appearent reason. I do not make any money off my website and youo are just trying to low ball me. I am fine with that, although you should know that website is set up for innnercity kids to recieve free personal training info and workout programs. I have paused and reflected, and all I can think is you have been intimidated by the fact I have a tremedous amount of knowledge on the subject. Please do not take my years of education, experience, strength coach and time, and hours reviewing clinical studies over these topics affect our relationship.

See, you just can't help yourself...you come off as a pompous a-hole when you post things like those last 2 sentences. Do you know how easy it is to give people knowledge without sounding like an a*hole? It's not that difficult. People on this board do it all the time. Newsflash...you're not the only person on the board who has studied something. Hell, Wabash gave us a great breakdown of an offensive lineman's film without making the rest of us feel like idiots for not knowing what he knew. It's not that hard.

Think about the inner city kids you work with. Would you want them acting like you do here? A dude made a joke about puking when working out and you jumped all over him and started a pissing contest. When all you had to say was something like this, "I'm sure you were just joking, but studies actually show that puking.........etc etc." Again, it's not that hard. Maybe you don't want to be tactful. Fine, but no one is going listen to a blowhard who talks down to people. And if that's the way you plan on talking to people here, you should probably find another board that tolerates you belittling its members...

 

[IrishBlood81]

Well it seems to me Longo knows what he's doing. This not his first rodeo. He's been doing this for a while at a few different places, and has been doing it well. I don't see how you can look at how programs were before and after he got there and not see a possitive difference, why would ND be any different. This coaching staff didn't come here lose nor were they hired to do so. They win everywhere they go and on every level. We should be jacked, and if you want to hold back, go ahead. But this Die-Hard-Fan is hopping aboard this party train. It's going to be a fun ride!!!

Agreed for the most part. After reading those articles, and I don't s*** about any of this kind of stuff, it just make logical sense in what Longo is doing. If the defense is losing double digit weight IN-SEASON that can not be good. So something has got to change.
What Longo has said about the puking is that they are not conditioned.
BTW I'm totally on that Party Train! I got the DJing

I didn't mean to start a big debate here on whether or not Longo is any good. I just read sum stuff and really liked the changes hes going to bring.
Of course only time can tell whether or not its Winning change but hey I'm entitled to be happy for a bit if I so choose

and Mbeck you spelled their wrong on multiple occasions. Notice the squiggly red lines under the words? that means its misspelled lol.

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[IrishBlood81]

See, you just can't help yourself...you come off as a pompous a-hole when you post things like those last 2 sentences. Do you know how easy it is to give people knowledge without sounding like an a*hole? It's not that difficult. People on this board do it all the time. Newsflash...you're not the only person on the board who has studied something. Hell, Wabash gave us a great breakdown of an offensive lineman's film without making the rest of us feel like idiots for not knowing what he knew. It's not that hard.

Think about the inner city kids you work with. Would you want them acting like you do here? A dude made a joke about puking when working out and you jumped all over him and started a pissing contest. When all you had to say was something like this, "I'm sure you were just joking, but studies actually show that puking.........etc etc." Again, it's not that hard. Maybe you don't want to be tactful. Fine, but no one is going listen to a blowhard who talks down to people. And if that's the way you plan on talking to people here, you should probably find another board that tolerates you belittling its members...

Very well stated mate. And totally right on. Its impossible to learn anything from an arrogant fool that just loves to show off his superior knowledge.
So mbeck if your really so intelligent I would suggest listening and learning from what ND here has stated. Would get you very long ways.

I am excited as well with Coach Kelly, I believe he is a winner.

How is Coach Longo shaking things up?

for real? Do you read anything? or I'm assuming you know him personally? For one thing he brought in this training table which we haven't had before. and the players have stated that Longo is a much better coach than the previous one.


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[Junkhead]

I have paused and reflected, and all I can think is you have been intimidated by the fact I have a tremedous amount of knowledge on the subject.

I agree totally with NDinLA, no need to come off as such a know it all.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

HereComeTheIrish... I'm gonna let ya finish... but Longo has one of the best lifting programs of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Walks off stage, takes massive swig of Hennisey. Stumbles. Vomits in parking lot.

LMAO!

 

[mbeckha]

His workout seems to differ from what the players have done in the past. That should be an easy assumption because each strength coach is going to bring his/her own personality to the workout. You seem to be very knowledgable on strength and conditioning, so I am sure that you know that our muscles need to be challenged in different ways to reach maximum potential. I am not a professional strength and conditioning coach. I am merely a high school football coach, but I do have my Ed. Specialist degree in Health/ Physical Education. From what I have read that Coach Longo is doing lifts and exercises that these players have either never done, or have not done much. Again, I am not trying to debate, argue, sound like I know it all, or anything like that. I am just happy that things are being done differently, and not for the sake of doing it different, but for the quest of another NC. PLease do not think that I am trying to be a tale hole about this, because I am not. I am just giving my opinion based on what I have done at my coaching stops in the back roads of Mississippi.

How?

Do not worry how you sound, people just take everything so personally here.

 

[mbeckha]

I agree totally with NDinLA, no need to come off as such a know it all.

That is not my plan.

 

[mbeckha]

See, you just can't help yourself...you come off as a pompous a-hole when you post things like those last 2 sentences. Do you know how easy it is to give people knowledge without sounding like an a*hole? It's not that difficult. People on this board do it all the time. Newsflash...you're not the only person on the board who has studied something. Hell, Wabash gave us a great breakdown of an offensive lineman's film without making the rest of us feel like idiots for not knowing what he knew. It's not that hard.

Think about the inner city kids you work with. Would you want them acting like you do here? A dude made a joke about puking when working out and you jumped all over him and started a pissing contest. When all you had to say was something like this, "I'm sure you were just joking, but studies actually show that puking.........etc etc." Again, it's not that hard. Maybe you don't want to be tactful. Fine, but no one is going listen to a blowhard who talks down to people. And if that's the way you plan on talking to people here, you should probably find another board that tolerates you belittling its members...[/QUOTE]

I do not understand why that makes me come off as an a##. In his reply that is what he wanted me to do. I did and spoke what I thought.

I didnt attack anyone.

Im sorry you feel that way. I intend to spread knowledge of what is true and what is false or unknown.