ND Field Conditions and the Defense

krupstheirishfan

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I don't know about everyone else but I'm getting pretty sick of the deplorable field conditions at Notre Dame Stadium. I fully understand that the climate in Indiana isn't exactly ideal for a flawless emerald green playing surface, but giant divots and slipping players every down means something is wrong.

I also believe that the play of the secondary is directly related to this. If you go back and look at the big plays that were given up against BC, the majority of them featured double moves (mostly by Gunnel) and a slipping Irish DB. When the field is wet but it's not actually raining the passing game of both teams have a distinct advantage. Receivers know what route they are going to run and the DB must quickly adjust. With a field like that, I don't care who ND has in the secondary there will be open receivers all day long.

This is not an argument for field turf although after witnessing what transpired yesterday I certainly would not be opposed. All I am saying is that for a defense that is still growing and improving (and make no mistake, they are improving, just look at the running performances of SC and BC) it's hard to make any progress in the secondary when they are at a distinct disadvantage just stepping onto a sloppy field.

I know what some of you are going to say. Both teams play on the same field. I am fully aware of the fact that the slippery field have probably helped our offense too. But the offense, being the strength of this team, should score points on any defense regardless of the field conditions. Notre Dame has to do something about that field if they ever want to have a stingy defense.
 

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i truly wonder why the field shreds apart so easily every season.
 

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I don't know if you noticed, but BC was playing EXTREMELY soft coverage all game long. They chose to keep everything in front of them while ND played it's usual aggressive press coverage. Maybe this does expose Tenuta/Brown's unwillingness to adjust, but my argument is that if BC defensive backs slipped less, it was because they were 20 years of the line of scrimmage.
 

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I agree totally. Surprisingly the field that were playing on is fairly new. I think its only a few years old and I believe its hybrid kentucky bluegrass. Its junk if you ask me and we should bring in the artificial turf if you ask me.
 

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I recall the secondary getting shreded by Purdue in West Lafeyette and Tate Forcier ripping the secondary in Ann Arbor. This secondary--or better said defensive scheme--is pretty bad anywhere.

Excuses are like assholes: everyone has one they and they all stink.
 

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I think they need Scott's Winterguard, it helps build roots or at least that is what the television tells me. They could also try a replace your divot rule, with a possible penalty involved, so many people don't replace their divots...
 

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Interesting point, didn't think of that. Possibly Notre Dame could look at using the same system the Packers do. Both teams have similar conditions to play in - cold weather, etc. The Packers used to have these problems all of the time, but since they have gone to a surface which is natural grass, with synthetic material woven in.

Here's an article if anyone is interested: Packers going to DD Grassmaster System at Lambeau - Athletic Turf

As always, I am sure it is expensive.
 

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lol @ blaming a bad secondary on the field. NEWSFLASH...they're bad everywhere!
 

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I think they need Scott's Winterguard, it helps build roots or at least that is what the television tells me. They could also try a replace your divot rule, with a possible penalty involved, so many people don't replace their divots...

lol
 

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Personal Foul #23, shredding the turf. 15 yards of sod. First down!
Personal Foul #5 on the defense, ill replacement of divot. 15 yard lawn rolling, automatic first down!
 

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I thought I was the only one noticing the field. I mean, have you seen as many people slip during any of the other games? I don't know if it's the field or the cleats.
 

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I tried to post this last night, but for some reason it didn't work.

Maybe Notre Dame could put in a surface like the Packers have. It is a natural grass surface with synthetic material woven in and an excellent drainage system. They used to always have to re-sod Lambeau late in the year, but this stuff has held up amazingly well.

I'm sure it's not cheap but it may be worth it. Our climates are so similar that i think the field conditions definitely are fairly similar as well.

Here's an article describing it:
Packers going to DD Grassmaster System at Lambeau - Athletic Turf
 

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I think its weak guys.....look back at some of the games in the past...80's....ND's field resembled that of a dirt baseball infield........ it didn't effect some of the great ND defences of the past. pfffffffffttt !!!






Keep the faith !!!

GO IRISH !!!
 
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Oh- so your saying they are well endowed? Must be talking to the girls on campus hey? haha

Sorry pathetic I know-had to though!
 

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I think the field is a cross between Kentucky Blue Grass and sensimilla. The great thing is you can play 4 quarters on it, then take it to the locker room and get stoned to the bejeezus on it. We should recruit the Dalai Lama. Big hitter , the Lama.
 

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I think the field is a cross between Kentucky Blue Grass and sensimilla. The great thing is you can play 4 quarters on it, then take it to the locker room and get stoned to the bejeezus on it. We should recruit the Dalai Lama. Big hitter , the Lama.

When you die, on your deathbed, you shall receive total consciousness. So I got that going for me............which is nice!
 

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I think the field is a cross between Kentucky Blue Grass and sensimilla. The great thing is you can play 4 quarters on it, then take it to the locker room and get stoned to the bejeezus on it. We should recruit the Dalai Lama. Big hitter , the Lama.

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I think the field is a cross between Kentucky Blue Grass and sensimilla. The great thing is you can play 4 quarters on it, then take it to the locker room and get stoned to the bejeezus on it. We should recruit the Dalai Lama. Big hitter , the Lama.

Adds an interesting twist to "lighting things up" or "burning up the field." Maybe I'll get a propane torch and "hit" the field for a post game celebration ...
 
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This argument is ridiculous.... This is football in the midwest, not a beauty contest. Both teams play on it, adjust, and deal with it. Field turf, hybrid field turfs and the like will never happen.

Jumbotron anyone????




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I'll take that Jumbotron. I'm more on the fence about field turf though. Field turf is not fun to get thrown around on, but it isn't fun to see our QB slip while dropping back in the pocket as well.
 
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I'll take that Jumbotron. I'm more on the fence about field turf though. Field turf is not fun to get thrown around on, but it isn't fun to see our QB slip while dropping back in the pocket as well.

All part of the deal when you sign on to play football at Notre Dame. Unfortunate or not, it's the deal. This University lives by its ideals....for better or worse, but they do. Nothing is going to change. It's part of the ambiance...it's part of the culture....It's part of the ND football weekend. You know if you are coming to ND in OCT or NOV, it's going to be a mess....

It's been this way forever and it will continue to be this way.

(by the way..........no Jumbotron.......I was just being silly. ;))
 

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While I agree that the field is a mess, this SHOULD work to our advantage. OUr guys should be used to it and the equipment managers should be giving them 1 1/2 inch cleants to play with. I personally love the fact that in the 05 game with SC the grass was so long it covered the players feet, just another ND tradition and as I stated SHOULD be an advantage for home games.
 
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