Clausen 18 TDs 13 INTS this year.

[midwestguy]

That is against a pretty damn easy schedule as well. Not great. Actually, pretty mediocre.

 

[JeremyND07]

I agree...that is against a horrible scedule! AS much as I think JC is overrated...our OL and play calling is HORRIBLE!

 

[Timugen]

I'm done criticizing Clausen on here because when you do you get shouted down as if you had just insulted the Pope.

Time to just let his play on the field speak for itself, and hopefully some can take the homer blinders off and see what is actually there.

 

[NDsuperfan09]

We have no running game. He has to play otherworldly or we have no shot to win. He has more responsibility than Quinn ever did in terms of us winning games. When teams are dropping 8 guys into coverage and you still can't run is that really his fault? Him/Tate/Floyd are the only 3 players defenses need to respect. We need something else on offense.

 

[JeremyND07]

I'm done criticizing Clausen on here because when you do you get shouted down as if you had just insulted the Pope.

Time to just let his play on the field speak for itself, and hopefully some can take the homer blinders off and see what is actually there.

I hear you man...do not realize how he got the Pope status already. I would like to see him actually win some big games first.

 

[wahoo]

Clausen continues to lock on to a single reciever. He throws a decent deep ball but that can be taken away by just playing a Cover 2 since we dont send hardly ever send anyone over the middle

 

[Junkhead]

We have no blocking and no run game. The fact that JC had a 2-1 td to int ratio before this game is surprising enough. He sucked tonight, but I give him credit for being one of the few who seems to have any fire.

 

[wallym]

JC did struggle tonight. He locked-in on receivers early, and threw some bad passes. I'm not trying to be a simpythizer, but he does have a lot of pressure to be the only threat we have on offense. AA goes down way to easy, RA is a slumber, and JA looks like the best back we have. But our "O" line is attrocious.

 

[ACamp1900]

I hear you man...do not realize how he got the Pope status already. I would like to see him actually win some big games first.

He plays for Notre Dame, which makes him completely physically unable to win a big game

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

He plays for Notre Dame, which makes him completely physically unable to win a big game

LOL

I will say this for the final time tonight:

I believe the problem is the entire offensive offensive scheme. CW's overly imaginary scheme.

Fix that and this team wins.

 

[Timugen]

He plays for Charlie Weis, which makes him completely physically unable to win a big game

Fixed.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

I'm done criticizing Clausen on here because when you do you get shouted down as if you had just insulted the Pope.

Time to just let his play on the field speak for itself, and hopefully some can take the homer blinders off and see what is actually there.

Pansy. If Pope can take the heat...

 

[Timugen]

Pansy. If Pope can take the heat...

Fine, I'll bite...just this one last time.




-First and foremost, his release is agonizingly slow. (EDIT: he does have the ability for a quick release and has one at times, but it seems he has a tendency to press and try to put some extra mustard on it, and when he does so his delivery becomes atrociously deliberate and SLOW.)

-He puts too much air under a lot of his longer balls (and yes, I know that you should get air underneath fades - those aren't the throws I'm talking about.)

-When he scrambles, he's often too quick to sprint straight to the sideline. He also needs a lot of work on keeping his shoulders square to LOS and ready to pull the trigger when scrambling.

-He's quickly developing a habit of staring down receivers.

-He has a cannon attached to his shoulder now that he's healthy, but it's inflating his head to the point that he's making some extremely poor decisions and forcing balls.

NOTE: None of the above are attributable to "we don't have a running game," blah blah blah.




There. I said it. Some of it for the second or third time. I'm sure I'll catch shit for it, but I know what I see and I stand by this assessment.

Go ahead and rip me a new one for it everyone, and have fun....but don't expect a reply as I've said what I have to say about JC and I stand by it.

 

[GoIrish41]

JC is a better QB than anyone on this board - lighten up. he's ND's QB with no running game and a questionable OL. 18 TDs and 13 INTs is pretty darn good when you consider he is getting so little help.

 

[Guest]

Two points.

Clausen is a sophomore. And the OL really sucks. Whadya gonna do ?

 

[NDinL.A.]

I'm one of the guys that is a HUGE Jimmy backer. I'll say this:

1. He's taken several steps backwards the last few weeks. Sophomore slump, soph jinx, whatever, he's regressed a bit as teams have adjusted and taken away anything deep to Floyd and Tate with their Tamba Deep Cover 2 defense.

2. Yes, he locks on to his receivers. It was really bad in the first half. If you look at the 2nd half, he started to check down to his RB a lot more, and he scrambled and wanted to throw, but nobody was open. What do you want him to do? He stepped up in the pocket several times, but couldn't anyone open.

3. You cannot dismiss the offense's lack of running game when talking about his performance. You simply can't. This isn't the spread, it's a pro-style offense. It worked beautifully w/ Brady (both of them, actually), but we had Walker, as slow as he was, running the ball for 100 yards a game. There's NO THREAT AT ALL TO RUN! And w/ a dominating front 4 like BC's up against a CRAPPY O-line, they just would drop back guys into coverage and there was nowhere to throw. And yes, when you lock onto guys, it makes it even worse.

4. This is huge that no one mentioned on this thread (haven't read the other threads yet): It was pouring. IT NEVER RAINS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!! LIKE, EVER!. Jimmy has rarely had to throw in rain. When it rains in SB, they go indoors. He's not used to a wet ball. The backbreaker pick over Rudolph's head was a direct result f the wet ball. There's no way his numbers are that bad in normal weather. Hell no. I don't now how you remedy that, but that killed us, especially when YOU CAN'T RUN THE BALL.

I knew midwestdork was going to come on here and bag on Jimmy after the game, just because I called him out for comparing Jimmy to a guy who got benched that very week midwestdork said it. So predictable. But talk about the rain too. Talk about the lack of running game. You want to ignore it, go ahead. But you said ignorant when you do.

I'll say it again. Jimmy has regressed in the last couple weeks. Timugen and others can't be called out about calling out Jimmy for playing poorly. But I still have MAJOR faith in him. He's legit. Think about it again: Soph, no running game, crappy O-line, HORRIBLE play-calling, a coach in which the jury is still out on, and crappy, wet weather.

 

[midwestguy]

I'm one of the guys that is a HUGE Jimmy backer. I'll say this:

1. He's taken several steps backwards the last few weeks. Sophomore slump, soph jinx, whatever, he's regressed a bit as teams have adjusted and taken away anything deep to Floyd and Tate with their Tamba Deep Cover 2 defense.

2. Yes, he locks on to his receivers. It was really bad in the first half. If you look at the 2nd half, he started to check down to his RB a lot more, and he scrambled and wanted to throw, but nobody was open. What do you want him to do? He stepped up in the pocket several times, but couldn't anyone open.

3. You cannot dismiss the offense's lack of running game when talking about his performance. You simply can't. This isn't the spread, it's a pro-style offense. It worked beautifully w/ Brady (both of them, actually), but we had Walker, as slow as he was, running the ball for 100 yards a game. There's NO THREAT AT ALL TO RUN! And w/ a dominating front 4 like BC's up against a CRAPPY O-line, they just would drop back guys into coverage and there was nowhere to throw. And yes, when you lock onto guys, it makes it even worse.

4. This is huge that no one mentioned on this thread (haven't read the other threads yet): It was pouring. IT NEVER RAINS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!! LIKE, EVER!. Jimmy has rarely had to throw in rain. When it rains in SB, they go indoors. He's not used to a wet ball. The backbreaker pick over Rudolph's head was a direct result f the wet ball. There's no way his numbers are that bad in normal weather. Hell no. I don't now how you remedy that, but that killed us, especially when YOU CAN'T RUN THE BALL.

I knew midwestdork was going to come on here and bag on Jimmy after the game, just because I called him out for comparing Jimmy to a guy who got benched that very week midwestdork said it. So predictable. But talk about the rain too. Talk about the lack of running game. You want to ignore it, go ahead. But you said ignorant when you do.

I'll say it again. Jimmy has regressed in the last couple weeks. Timugen and others can't be called out about calling out Jimmy for playing poorly. But I still have MAJOR faith in him. He's legit. Think about it again: Soph, no running game, crappy O-line, HORRIBLE play-calling, a coach in which the jury is still out on, and crappy, wet weather.

It was raining? That is your answer? If only it wasn't raining maybe we would have lost by 3? Give me a break. Did Cody Hawkins ever have to play in the rain?

Puhlease. Oh, and by the way. Cody Hawkins, who is about as mediocre as you can get, was 20-29 with 4 TDs yesterday. That gives him 15 TDs and 7 INTs for the year - which is a better ratio than your boy Clausen. And those numbers got Cody benched.

So call me a dork all you want. The numbers don't lie. Also, Cody's medicore numbers came against teams like Texas, West Virginia, Kansas, & Florida State. Far superior teams than Clausen has faced.

 

[Junkhead]

It was raining? That is your answer? If only it wasn't raining maybe we would have lost by 3? Give me a break. Did Cody Hawkins ever have to play in the rain?

Puhlease. Oh, and by the way. Cody Hawkins, who is about as mediocre as you can get, was 20-29 with 4 TDs yesterday. That gives him 15 TDs and 7 INTs for the year - which is a better ratio than your boy Clausen. And those numbers got Cody benched.

So call me a dork all you want. The numbers don't lie. Also, Cody's medicore numbers came against teams like Texas, West Virginia, Kansas, & Florida State. Far superior teams than Clausen has faced.

No one gives a flying rat's ass about Cody Hawkins.

 

[bernbabybern820]

Relax, this is Jimmy's first year "running" an offense. Last year all he did was either check down to his rb for 1 yard or get sacked.

 

[NDOM]

It was raining? That is your answer? If only it wasn't raining maybe we would have lost by 3? Give me a break. Did Cody Hawkins ever have to play in the rain?

Puhlease. Oh, and by the way. Cody Hawkins, who is about as mediocre as you can get, was 20-29 with 4 TDs yesterday. That gives him 15 TDs and 7 INTs for the year - which is a better ratio than your boy Clausen. And those numbers got Cody benched.

So call me a dork all you want. The numbers don't lie. Also, Cody's medicore numbers came against teams like Texas, West Virginia, Kansas, & Florida State. Far superior teams than Clausen has faced.

WOW! I like midwestguy. He knows his shit and aint afraid to back it up. Reps for you bro. Me and you might just get along pretty damn good. lol

 

[BeatSC]

I agree that the OL sucks for run blocking but seems at least adequate for pass protection so far this season. JC hasn't been sacked that often and is fairly immobile. I think the OL can improve but CW hasn't put much real empahsis on power running. He treats this offense like we are playing flag football.

 

[Catsudon]

yes, with OL being the way it is, JC might as well be playing for the other team everytime he steps on the field.

 

[NDinL.A.]

It was raining? That is your answer? If only it wasn't raining maybe we would have lost by 3? Give me a break. Did Cody Hawkins ever have to play in the rain?

Puhlease. Oh, and by the way. Cody Hawkins, who is about as mediocre as you can get, was 20-29 with 4 TDs yesterday. That gives him 15 TDs and 7 INTs for the year - which is a better ratio than your boy Clausen. And those numbers got Cody benched.

So call me a dork all you want. The numbers don't lie. Also, Cody's medicore numbers came against teams like Texas, West Virginia, Kansas, & Florida State. Far superior teams than Clausen has faced.

OK dude, you sound stupider by the day. Here's your boy Cody's stats the last 6 games before yesterday:

17-36 154 yards
13-33 118 yards
8-22 90 yards
6-11 35 yards
9-17 86 yards
7-11 109 yards

You see, I can look up numbers too (it's not hard NDOM, I wouldn't give him that much credit). Now look up Jimmy's numbers. You want to compare these guys? OK, yeah, you know your stuff. You're saying that Cody, who lost his job even though his daddy is the coach, and who has the above #'s, is mediocre, and that he and Jimmy are in the same class. OK bro, you got it, you're a genius, you really know your stuff.

As for the rain, some guys are very good bad-weather QB's, and others aren't. Jimmy isn't, that's for sure. He's never had to play in those conditions, and it showed. It's not an excuse for his poor play, it's just the truth that he's never seen those conditions, 'cause it never friggin rains down here. If you're too obtuse to see that some QB's don't play well in the rain, well, that's on you. Was it raining in Cody's game? No. It makes a HUGE difference, whether you want to admit it or not.

But you like to talk shit not because you have a clue, 'cause you don't, but because you like to stir shit up. Fine, but you sound stupid doing it. COmparing Cody to JC proves my point. At least NDOM and Phork make sense, even if I disagree at times...

 

[PADOMERNUT]

Let's compare Jimmy to the media's golden child before the season started, Matthew Stafford, and remember this is Stafford's 3rd year in their system....

Clausen: 198/335, 2329 yds, 18/13 td to int.

Stafford: 176/289, 2587, 15/8

And before you jump down my throat about strength of schedule, let me say that Georgia has a more experienced team than we do, and they have played vaunted defenses like Georgia Southern, Central Michigan, Kentucky, Arizona State, even LSU has an awful defense this year.


Let the criticism of me begin!!!!

 

[Sureal]

And who has ND played?

Strawman IMO.

I don't buy the comparing one guy to the other. Bottom line is that our guy isn't playing good at all. No excuses no if ands or buts. 4 picks in a game has nothing to do with the o-line or the players around him. He didn't play good period.

 

[PADOMERNUT]

I agree Jimmy had an awful game and is in a slump right now, I was not trying to make an excuse for him.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

...Let the criticism of me begin!!!!

You wear funny shoes. And you take these reeeaaalllyy short sabbaticals...

 

[PADOMERNUT]

You wear funny shoes. And you take these reeeaaalllyy short sabbaticals...

I took about a 12 hour leave of absence, and I felt my IrishEnvy family needed me, so I came back.

 

[mick2]

he is on pace for a 3000 yd year and 20+ tds, and he is a sophomore!? he'll be fine.

cody hawkins!?!?!?? i dont know what to say but whaaaaaaa!!!!!

 

[AlumniHall98]

my wife and I have this argument every week - let me know what you guys think:
she says JC is a total head case, and that even though he has talent galore, she does not
think he will EVER be able to achieve greatness as our QB -

I respectfully have disagreed with her all along, but then after this past weekend's game, where they reported that the BC fans were yelling from the stands and questioning whether or not our players have any heart, I started thinking that maybe he IS a head case, since he came out really trying to force things from that point on.

thoughts???