Trump Presidency Round 2

NDVirginia19

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After seeing the public’s response to the Epstein files, I get some of the apprehension to fully releasing them. Tens of thousands of people genuinely believe that George HW Bush was cutting people’s feet with a Scimitar
 

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lol I'm a petty bitch. It is pretty funny though, what are the odds that you are the one to call it out for being false but not fact check your own posts.

Back to the subject matter, am I correct or am I miscategorizing your position? - until the justice system makes a determination you are not going to judge anyone that's name may surface in these documents releases.
Look, I'll be happy to start paying rent, but I'm not doing your homework for you. Just go back through the threads.
 

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After seeing the public’s response to the Epstein files, I get some of the apprehension to fully releasing them. Tens of thousands of people genuinely believe that George HW Bush was cutting people’s feet with a Scimitar

In any other circumstance just dumping the FBI’s investigative file on the public would be wild prosecutorial misconduct. It’s almost the worst practice imaginable. If there’s enough admissible, verifiable evidence to charge someone, we should do that. Otherwise, it’s not law enforcement’s role to serve as, essentially, Wikileaks.

That being said, there is one singular scenario that’s worse, and that’s the one in which a pedophile with friends in high places gets an insanely lenient deal until public scrutiny gets too intense to ignore and then winds up dead in unusual circumstances while being detained by an administration led by one of his former best friends (an administration that, by the way, elevated the prosecutor that cut that oddly lenient deal to an extremely high level role).
 

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In any other circumstance just dumping the FBI’s investigative file on the public would be wild prosecutorial misconduct. It’s almost the worst practice imaginable. If there’s enough admissible, verifiable evidence to charge someone, we should do that. Otherwise, it’s not law enforcement’s role to serve as, essentially, Wikileaks.

That being said, there is one singular scenario that’s worse, and that’s the one in which a pedophile with friends in high places gets an insanely lenient deal until public scrutiny gets too intense to ignore and then winds up dead in unusual circumstances while being detained by an administration led by one of his former best friends (an administration that, by the way, elevated the prosecutor that cut that oddly lenient deal to an extremely high level role).
Don't forget moving his right hand woman to a country club prison for no discernible reason.

Gee I wonder why Trump would be appeasing a convicted child sex trafficker? Did they ever even come up with a lie about why they did that?
 

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Got it, you hold any criticism of Trump’s actions to a legal standard. Any other person is subject to an AI fake tweet standard lol.
Nope, I hold them all to the same standard. I've criticized Trump. Don't be lazy. Go back through the posts and read.
 

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Nope, I hold them all to the same standard. I've criticized Trump. Don't be lazy. Go back through the posts and read.
Lazy would be me just doing a laugh emoji to avoid responding.

You’ve criticized and shared AI posts of Ilhan Omar without seeing a DOJ investigation and its results. Wondering why that’s not held to the same standard as yours for Trump.
 

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Wasn't stop the steal super successful in the courts? Oh wait. How many cases were dropped and lost? This is scary AF. No way you can assume this only pertains to 2020.

 

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Still waiting on what? I’m not going though years of posts. Do it yourself you lazy piece of shit. You are the one making accusation. I’ll be waiting for your apology.
You made a claim. I challenged you to prove it. You can't.
 

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Wasn't stop the steal super successful in the courts? Oh wait. How many cases were dropped and lost? This is scary AF. No way you can assume this only pertains to 2020.


Is this news for people too liberal for normal left-wing news?
 

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Is this news for people too liberal for normal left-wing news?
Let me Google that for you:

When discussing Breaking Points, the popular independent news program hosted by Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti, "bias" is a bit more nuanced than the typical left-vs-right spectrum seen on cable news.
Instead of fitting neatly into a single box, the show is built on a philosophy of populism and anti-establishment sentiment.
The Host Dynamic
The show’s primary appeal is its "cross-partisan" approach. By pairing two hosts with differing foundational ideologies, they aim to find common ground on issues that affect the working class.
* Krystal Ball: Represents a progressive/socialist perspective. She focuses on labor rights, universal healthcare, and wealth inequality.
* Saagar Enjeti: Represents a nationalist/conservative perspective. He focuses on "realignment" politics, criticizing neo-conservative foreign policy and corporate globalization.
Key Biases and Perspectives
While they strive for independence, media monitors like Ad Fontes Media and AllSides generally categorize the show's overall output as Left-Leaning or Center-Left in its aggregate, though this is debated. Here is how their bias actually manifests:
1. Anti-Establishment Bias
Their strongest "slant" isn't partisan; it’s institutional. They are openly hostile toward:
* Mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC, Fox News).
* The "Administrative State" and intelligence agencies.
* Corporate lobbying and "Big Tech."
2. Pro-Labor Bias
Regardless of the topic, the show almost always views news through the lens of the working class versus the elites. They are vocally supportive of unionization efforts, strikes, and economic policies that redistribute power away from Wall Street.
3. Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy
Both hosts share a strong skepticism of U.S. military involvement abroad. Whether discussing Ukraine, the Middle East, or Taiwan, their bias leans heavily toward isolationism or "restraint," often criticizing the "military-industrial complex."
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Summary
If you are looking for a "neutral" point of view, Breaking Points isn't it—and they would be the first to tell you that. They trade "objectivity" for transparency, telling you exactly where they stand so you can weigh their arguments yourself.
 

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Bullshit. I have consistently said the same thing about this.

I'll gladly admit I was wrong if you can show me a few examples of you criticizing the Biden admin while he was in office for not releasing the Epstein files.

You made the claim! Prove it or stfu!
Really? Looks like you're wrong. We both know you never criticized Biden while he was in office for not releasing the Epstein files. It's not on me to find evidence for your claim that you did. That's on you and you can't. You just straight up lied about doing so and now you're angry and cursing because you got caught in a lie.
 

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Let me find your outrage posts as Dems tried to move HR-1, the election rigging bill through Congress.
 

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It's not that I don't agree with you on this. I do, and so do all the other conservatives in her, AFAIK. The problem is that the Epstein scandal has been well known for several years and when Dems were in control of the WH, Congress, the Senate, and the Justice Department, they did nothing to just release the files and let the chips fall where they may... and you didn't have a damn thing to say about it then.
This was the original claim, dumbass!
 

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Let me find your outrage posts as Dems tried to move HR-1, the election rigging bill through Congress.
Updating our archaic voting system doesn't equal rigging. Rigging is when you call state representatives to try and strong arm them into finding you votes.
 

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Why are you so angry and cursing all the time? You used to be a normal decent person.
Oh, I thought you knew … it’s because your immoral, self-righteous pomposity has led me to the conclusion that you are a huge asshole who likes the smell of his own bullshit. I like to make my contempt for you clear.
 
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Updating our archaic voting system doesn't equal rigging. Rigging is when you call state representatives to try and strong arm them into finding you votes.
The fact that you called that updating our voting system tells me how completely unserious you are on the topic. Thanks
 

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IE MAGA when they can't even sift through fake AI tweets, DJIA charts, or steel production.

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