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Jesus was a woke progressive brown Jew. You're the antithesis of everything he stood for.
Ethnically a Jew… religiously Jews don’t believe in Jesus so you would be making the argument Jesus as a religious Jew doesn’t believe in himself.

He was also killed by the religious Jews for speaking truth… 🧐

Brown skin? Science would love your findings. Olive to medium brown skin but nobody knows… but the gay guy knows so there that.

Like I said, you failed every Bible quiz on this forum and continue to look stupid trying to have these arguments.

I am an ethnic Jew… religious Jew I am not. My skin tone fits someone of that description.
 

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Statistically speaking there are WAY more kids looking to be dinosaurs than opposite gender. Damn near 100% if you get them at the right time.

This entire retarded conversation is so timely when we are all re-upping health insurance. No wonder I pay $30k/year for all the mental health and unnecessary surgeries required to be covered to pander. Meanwhile, real quality of life interventions like hearing aids, eye and dental are not covered. Perverted priorities (pun intended).

I would be interested in a breakdown of the cost of all these discretionary interventions.
That's definitely all the fault of trans people instead of the greed of for profit health insurance companies. Keep blaming the wrong 1%
 

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Whatever, it's been fun as always. Enjoy celebrating the holidays and the new year, the Trojans are pussies and go Irish
 

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Wait, Jesus was brown? BS, I say:

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Bishop/CI

Re dumbass parents, I did think about this. There are dumbasss parents making shit choices all day, every day. Are we expected to monitor all parents' stupid choices with their kids? F that.
 

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Re dumbass parents, I did think about this. There are dumbasss parents making shit choices all day, every day. Are we expected to monitor all parents' stupid choices with their kids? F that.
Just need to monitor the ones that let their kids be gay obviously
 

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You are not grounded if you are running around worried about Muslims implementing sharia law in the states and refusing to acknowledge what is happening here in our country. I don't give a shit what other countries are doing.

I'll draft up a list of rights trans people have under sharia law if you'll do the same for rights trans people have under MAGA
What's happening here in our country does have me concerned: we've imported millions of people who follow a certain religion that is incompatible with our laws and our culture. That's grounded.

Everyone in the US can point to the Bill of Rights. What do trans people have under Sharia Law?
 

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What's happening here in our country does have me concerned: we've imported millions of people who follow a certain religion that is incompatible with our laws and our culture. That's grounded.

Everyone in the US can point to the Bill of Rights. What do trans people have under Sharia Law?
I feel bad for how scared you are of Muslims.
 

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You do realize due to the first amendment in the bill of rights sharia law could never possibly happen here right? So if we're at the point of sharia law being implemented the country it would be due to a war and not things happening in the courts or the voting booths
 

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You do realize due to the first amendment in the bill of rights sharia law could never possibly happen here right? So if we're at the point of sharia law being implemented the country it would be due to a war and not things happening in the courts or the voting booths
Naive was a good word he used… 😂

Peoples values and beliefs shape culture. Culture shapes policy.
 

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Naive was a good word he used… 😂

Peoples values and beliefs shape culture. Culture shapes policy.
Maybe I am naive, then go ahead and educate me. How does Sharia law get implemented here if the first amendment does not allow it?
 

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I feel bad for how scared you are of Muslims.
Your mindset was likely the same held by the majority of Brits, French and a few others in Europe 20 years ago before they were overwhelmed by "migrants."

Go back and read what I wrote. I didn't mention anything at the federal level, but all local (township, school board, city council, etc).

I don't fear Muslims. I am cognizant of the fact that their 8th century religion doesn't mix with US culture and law, and would shutter at the potential scenario where US cities/ states did away with celebrations like July 4th, Thanksgiving day parade, and others due to certain "security concerns."
 

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Your mindset was likely the same held by the majority of Brits, French and a few others in Europe 20 years ago before they were overwhelmed by "migrants."

Go back and read what I wrote. I didn't mention anything at the federal level, but all local (township, school board, city council, etc).

I don't fear Muslims. I am cognizant of the fact that their 8th century religion doesn't mix with US culture and law, and would shutter at the potential scenario where US cities/ states did away with celebrations like July 4th, Thanksgiving day parade, and others due to certain "security concerns."
The first amendment still applies at the local level. How will sharia law be implemented if it's against our Constitution?

You live in the suburbs of Philly correct? Philly has one of the largest amounts of Muslims in the country what parts of sharia law have been implemented there?
 

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Don't need to. Another poster already did.
Yes, Jesus was a Jew. Virtually all modern historians and biblical scholars agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a first-century Jewish man who lived, taught, and died within the context of Second Temple Judaism.
Evidence of His Jewish Identity
According to the New Testament and historical records:
Ethnicity: He was born into a Jewish family of the Tribe of Judah. His lineage is traced back to King David and Abraham in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke.
Religious Practice: He was circumcised on the eighth day according to Jewish law. He regularly attended and taught in synagogues and the Temple in Jerusalem.
Festivals: He observed major Jewish holidays, including Passover, the Feast of Tabernacles, and Hanukkah.
Teachings: He operated as a rabbi (teacher), basing his teachings on the Hebrew Scriptures (the Torah and the Prophets). He famously stated that he did not come to abolish the Jewish Law but to fulfill it.
Relationship to Christianity
While Jesus is the central figure of Christianity, he was not a "Christian" in the modern sense because the term was not used until after his death to describe his followers.
Foundations: Christianity began as a movement within Judaism led by Jesus and his predominantly Jewish disciples.
Separation: The two faiths gradually diverged over centuries as Jesus' followers (who came to include many non-Jews) identified him as the Messiah and the Son of God, claims that traditional Judaism rejected.
 

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Again, I don't think you understand what the healthcare process for this is. Having the state be able to tell parents what help they can seek for the children is overstepping. Especially when the state says, "this healthcare is ok for for every purpose besides being trans"
No, I understand it. I just didn’t go into detail because I figured you would get my point.
 

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I answered your question but you dodged mine. You've got a healthy dose of that today. What rights do trans folks have under Sharia Law? Take me outside my "bubble" and educate me.
What rights do trans folks have under evangelical/fundamentalist beliefs? What about under haredi practices? Do you think all Christians are evangelicals? All people who believe in Judaism are Hasidic? You'd agree with me that the most extremes of any religion are cancerous to society. I have no problem saying Sharia Law is not belief system that should be forced onto anyone, just like evangelicals can stay in their swamp fields, and hasidic folks can keep to themselves.

There is no logical reason to believe that being Muslim = Sharia Law supporter.
 

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Yes, Jesus was a Jew. Virtually all modern historians and biblical scholars agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a first-century Jewish man who lived, taught, and died within the context of Second Temple Judaism.
Evidence of His Jewish Identity
According to the New Testament and historical records:
Ethnicity: He was born into a Jewish family of the Tribe of Judah. His lineage is traced back to King David and Abraham in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke.
Religious Practice: He was circumcised on the eighth day according to Jewish law. He regularly attended and taught in synagogues and the Temple in Jerusalem.
Festivals: He observed major Jewish holidays, including Passover, the Feast of Tabernacles, and Hanukkah.
Teachings: He operated as a rabbi (teacher), basing his teachings on the Hebrew Scriptures (the Torah and the Prophets). He famously stated that he did not come to abolish the Jewish Law but to fulfill it.
Relationship to Christianity
While Jesus is the central figure of Christianity, he was not a "Christian" in the modern sense because the term was not used until after his death to describe his followers.
Foundations: Christianity began as a movement within Judaism led by Jesus and his predominantly Jewish disciples.
Separation: The two faiths gradually diverged over centuries as Jesus' followers (who came to include many non-Jews) identified him as the Messiah and the Son of God, claims that traditional Judaism rejected.

Yes, everything you said about Jesus’ Jewish identity and practices is absolutely correct. He was fully Jewish by birth (ethnic) lived as a Torah observant Jew (religious) taught in synagogues, celebrated the feasts, and perfectly kept the Law. The New Testament is clear on all of that.

Where I think there might be a slight misunderstanding is in what it means for Jesus to “fulfill” the Law. He didn’t just keep it perfectly, He brought the entire Old Covenant system to its intended goal and completion.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Matthew 5:17)

Christ is the culmination [or end] of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Romans 10:4)

By calling this covenant ‘new,’ he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.” (Hebrews 8:13)

The New Testament teaches that for those who are in Christ, the Old Covenant Law is no longer the binding covenant system. Believers are not required to observe its ceremonial aspects (circumcision, dietary laws, animal sacrifices, Sabbath regulations as covenant signs) because Jesus fulfilled and replaced them.

So you’re not wrong about His Jewishness at all. Its just that the New Testament goes further and says His fulfillment brought the Old Covenant to its completion and ushered in something new for both Jews and Gentiles.

One big thing you and everyone need to realize is Jesus did not come to us for religion. He came to save souls.
 

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What rights do trans folks have under evangelical/fundamentalist beliefs? What about under haredi practices? Do you think all Christians are evangelicals? All people who believe in Judaism are Hasidic? You'd agree with me that the most extremes of any religion are cancerous to society. I have no problem saying Sharia Law is not belief system that should be forced onto anyone, just like evangelicals can stay in their swamp fields, and hasidic folks can keep to themselves.

There is no logical reason to believe that being Muslim = Sharia Law supporter.
Taking Sharia out of it doesn’t move the needle… Societies built on Christian values and principles tend to foster better outcomes for human rights, freedoms, and overall well-being compared to those dominated by Islamic values (which could be influenced by Sharia)

For instance the LGBTQRS rights (including trans folks), some Christian majority countries still have not “progressed”, many have taken the free will approach, repeals of anti-LGBT laws have happened in places like the US and others… Our middle eastern friends? No Muslim majority country has repealed alphabet soup laws recently, and they make up most of the nations where homosexuality is still criminalized, penalized and pulverized. Evangelical Christians or even fundamentalists might limit trans rights to some extent but broadly Christian majority societies are moving toward more free will as a whole, unlike many under stricter Islamic value systems.

Further, Muslim-majority countries score lower on the Human Freedom Index. Women’s rights and gender equality are obvious examples. Christian dominant societies rank better and it’s not even close.

Muslim nations dominate the bottom of the World Press Freedom Index…

Muslim majority ones rank lower in overall happiness…

There are observable societal outcomes where these belief systems hold majority influence. Christian values like love, forgiveness, and individual dignity seem to correlate with more progressive, free societies on average.

Colorado should be thanking God for America not being a whinny Bitch because he thinks Charlie Kirk said things he disagreed with or a MAGA boogy man is coming to make him nut up and act like the man he should be.
 

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Yes, everything you said about Jesus’ Jewish identity and practices is absolutely correct. He was fully Jewish by birth (ethnic) lived as a Torah observant Jew (religious) taught in synagogues, celebrated the feasts, and perfectly kept the Law. The New Testament is clear on all of that.

Where I think there might be a slight misunderstanding is in what it means for Jesus to “fulfill” the Law. He didn’t just keep it perfectly, He brought the entire Old Covenant system to its intended goal and completion.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Matthew 5:17)

Christ is the culmination [or end] of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Romans 10:4)

By calling this covenant ‘new,’ he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.” (Hebrews 8:13)

The New Testament teaches that for those who are in Christ, the Old Covenant Law is no longer the binding covenant system. Believers are not required to observe its ceremonial aspects (circumcision, dietary laws, animal sacrifices, Sabbath regulations as covenant signs) because Jesus fulfilled and replaced them.

So you’re not wrong about His Jewishness at all. Its just that the New Testament goes further and says His fulfillment brought the Old Covenant to its completion and ushered in something new for both Jews and Gentiles.

One big thing you and everyone need to realize is Jesus did not come to us for religion. He came to save souls.
Thanks for admitting I was right about him being a practicing Jew.
 

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Taking Sharia out of it doesn’t move the needle… Societies built on Christian values and principles tend to foster better outcomes for human rights, freedoms, and overall well-being compared to those dominated by Islamic values (which could be influenced by Sharia)

For instance the LGBTQRS rights (including trans folks), some Christian majority countries still have not “progressed”, many have taken the free will approach, repeals of anti-LGBT laws have happened in places like the US and others… Our middle eastern friends? No Muslim majority country has repealed alphabet soup laws recently, and they make up most of the nations where homosexuality is still criminalized, penalized and pulverized. Evangelical Christians or even fundamentalists might limit trans rights to some extent but broadly Christian majority societies are moving toward more free will as a whole, unlike many under stricter Islamic value systems.

Further, Muslim-majority countries score lower on the Human Freedom Index. Women’s rights and gender equality are obvious examples. Christian dominant societies rank better and it’s not even close.

Muslim nations dominate the bottom of the World Press Freedom Index…

Muslim majority ones rank lower in overall happiness…

There are observable societal outcomes where these belief systems hold majority influence. Christian values like love, forgiveness, and individual dignity seem to correlate with more progressive, free societies on average.

Colorado should be thanking God for America not being a whinny Bitch because he thinks Charlie Kirk said things he disagreed with or a MAGA boogy man is coming to make him nut up and act like the man he should be.

So, in my post that you responded to, under which of the most extreme denominations of Christianity and Judaism do trans people have “more rights”?

Living in a theocracy no matter the religion is a hellscape for anyone that doesn’t follow that particular faith to the utmost. Best part about the West is that I can live in a major city and have friends from all faiths and enjoy their celebrations together. I’ll take that over living with Jim Jones.

Again, my post to Leppy, is highlighting how LGBTQ people don’t exactly win under any extreme religious belief.
 
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