2025 College Football Playoffs

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The panic around them being in the playoffs and how bad they are playing compared to earlier in the year I would 1000 it’s true… sport is so corrupt
 

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Can’t believe I’m typing this but SBT’s Mike Bernardino made a good point about Saban. Said he never said anything emphatically regarding ND vs Miami until the final Saturday (Championship Weekend). He said J Love only gained 33 yards on the game. Miami dominated the LOS. Miami kicked ND’s ass. Since when is a 3-pt game that was won on a FG w/ less than a minute left an “ass kicking”?

But Saban has the gravitas to be the arbiter of everything football. Later that day Hunter Yuracek urged everyone on the committee to go watch that game again. Don’t forget Cristobal coached four years under Saban helping him to a NC. Mario is not the best at speaking so Coach Saban came to the rescue.

Characterizing the game that way definitely affected the outcome for ND/BAMA/Miami.

And as far as “ass kicking”. We ND fans all loathed the fact that Denbrock only had J Love carry the ball 10 times so it’s not RB’s fault. That was the biggest gripe by us on the Post Game thread. His definition of “ass kicking” is cited below:

Jeremiyah Love - 10 for 33 (3.3 ypc); 4 receptions for 26 yds (6.5 ypr)
Jadarian Price - 6 for 45 (7.4 ypc)

As a team ND rushed for 93 yds on 28 carries (3.3 ypc). Miami as a team rushed for 134 yds on 38 carries (3.5 ypc)

Total offense was 314 yds for ND & 339 yds for Miami.

How the hell is that an “ass kicking”? Two examples of ass kickings that jump to mind from this year are the two games that bookended Bama’s season. FSU 31-17 over Bama and UGA 28-7 over Bama.

Revisionist History. And Saban knows better.
Saban actually changed his tune on ND from earlier in the season. He said, "I'm not one of those people who wants to see ND lose, I love ND." Then he changed up after I assume his employer told him to and he was part of the final push for Miami. I think it was fait accompli by then though, Saban was being used to make the public case.

When they moved Auburn above ND I think most of us knew it was shady but viewed it as a “hedge”. In retrospect they decided it with that. Example this video was prior to Saturday’s game:



Exact same verbiage as Yuracek would use days later. This isn’t someone with an opinion that turned out right. It was a script.

Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight and the perspective gained, it was clear that the decision was made by then and we saw clear messaging coordination. The "bonus round" language was used by ESPN. That douche at on3, PicKell liked to say "extra credit." But it was clear there was a "script" of sorts and all of the big dogs coalesced around it.

There was a Miami media guy who called it a few weeks ago in such a way that I really wonder like what he knew. At the time I thought he was just coping, but he was extremely confident. Wish I could remember his name.
 
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I didn't see Saban on Saturday, but of the guys talking during the selection show on Sunday, it felt like he was the most coherent and sympathetic to Notre Dame. Basically said "All three of them should be there. Being locked into these G5 teams is the problem."

Now, maybe that's too little too late, and at no point did Saban, wearing his crimson blazer, say anything about us being more deserving than Bama. But he was better than Herbstreit repeating ESPN talking points about how Alabama shouldn't be "punished" for their "bonus game," and how you have to consider head-to-head now that BYU is out from between Notre Dame and Miami.
Saban changed back up his tune after the damage was done as a way to spin the blame onto the G5. He faked his moral indignation so everyone blames Tulane or JMU. The problem isn't those teams (I definitely think 12 is too small of a field to have 5 autobids, but I don't blame the G5 for that), the problem is primarily ESPN, followed the SEC, then the ACC. If any one team is to blame, it's not Miami, it's Alabama. Their pants pissing over their piece of shit 9-3 team that got destroyed by a bad OU team fucked us 12 months later as the committee gave them a phantom autobid to prevent them from being the first team out two years in a row.

I never hated Alabama under Saban, I respected their greatness. Now, I hope they get rolled in Norman in a similar fashion that we rolled Syracuse and DeBoer leaves for Michigan. Fuck them and their entitlement.
 

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Bet that info was available prior to the final poll, but wasn't disclosed so as to avoid the FSU treatment. Evil fucks.
That wouldn't have mattered, the die was cast. I mean, they looked middling vs. Auburn and then got destroyed by UGA and actually moved up (!). It was about making money for a league. Unlike OU/ND, OU/Bama is a no-lose proposition.
 

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Can’t believe I’m typing this but SBT’s Mike Bernardino made a good point about Saban. Said he never said anything emphatically regarding ND vs Miami until the final Saturday (Championship Weekend). He said J Love only gained 33 yards on the game. Miami dominated the LOS. Miami kicked ND’s ass. Since when is a 3-pt game that was won on a FG w/ less than a minute left an “ass kicking”?

But Saban has the gravitas to be the arbiter of everything football. Later that day Hunter Yuracek urged everyone on the committee to go watch that game again. Don’t forget Cristobal coached four years under Saban helping him to a NC. Mario is not the best at speaking so Coach Saban came to the rescue.

Characterizing the game that way definitely affected the outcome for ND/BAMA/Miami.

And as far as “ass kicking”. We ND fans all loathed the fact that Denbrock only had J Love carry the ball 10 times so it’s not RB’s fault. That was the biggest gripe by us on the Post Game thread. His definition of “ass kicking” is cited below:

Jeremiyah Love - 10 for 33 (3.3 ypc); 4 receptions for 26 yds (6.5 ypr)
Jadarian Price - 6 for 45 (7.4 ypc)

As a team ND rushed for 93 yds on 28 carries (3.3 ypc). Miami as a team rushed for 134 yds on 38 carries (3.5 ypc)

Total offense was 314 yds for ND & 339 yds for Miami.

How the hell is that an “ass kicking”? Two examples of ass kickings that jump to mind from this year are the two games that bookended Bama’s season. FSU 31-17 over Bama and UGA 28-7 over Bama.

Revisionist History. And Saban knows better.

Saban is a good coach. But he is a piece of shit. Fuck that old man.
 

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I don't know who to root for out of Miami/Texas A&M. I want Miami to lose cause they were being jerks, but them winning it all makes us look better. I want A&M to lose because I want every single SEC team to lose, but them winning it all makes us look better. Who should we root for.
 

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I don't know who to root for out of Miami/Texas A&M. I want Miami to lose cause they were being jerks, but them winning it all makes us look better. I want A&M to lose because I want every single SEC team to lose, but them winning it all makes us look better. Who should we root for.

It doesn’t matter to me, I am Not watching any games until our first game next year.
 

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I don't know who to root for out of Miami/Texas A&M. I want Miami to lose cause they were being jerks, but them winning it all makes us look better. I want A&M to lose because I want every single SEC team to lose, but them winning it all makes us look better. Who should we root for.
A&M by 50. Their fans have been cool to us this whole season, all 12 of Miami's fans have been complete dickheads.
 

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Well yall made fun of me being upset when we had play the 1030 game against Stanford. I said it was a slap in the face and disrespect. The beginning of what was to come. Alabama jumped the next Monday and it was on. Not hating on bevaqua, but swarbrick wouldn't have allowed it.
 

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- The memorandum of understanding guarantees that the field will have at least 12 teams in 2026 and beyond

- The commissioners and Notre Dame agreed that the conference champions from the ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 and the highest-ranked Group of 5 champion would earn playoff berths, and Notre Dame will have protections that will survive regardless of the ultimate format. With those ironclad guarantees, the other commissioners and Notre Dame leadership surrendered the bulk of the control over the format to the SEC and Big Ten as "part of the give-and-take," according to a source.

- The financial distribution for the expected 14-team playoff will look radically different. On an annual basis, for example, Big Ten and SEC schools will each be making more than $21 million, up from the nearly $5.5 million that schools in Power 5 conferences are currently being paid. In the ACC, the schools will get more than $13 million annually, and Big 12 schools will get more than $12 million each. Notre Dame is expected to get more than $12 million as well, and sources told ESPN there will be a financial incentive for any independent team that reaches the CFP.

- The vast disparity in revenue between the top and bottom has already elicited discontent and pushback from schools outside the Big Ten and SEC. To help alleviate some of those concerns, sources said a "look-in" clause for 2028 has been added to give the commissioners and Notre Dame leadership a chance to reevaluate the contractual agreements based on how every league has performed to that point. There's also a clause that permits that timeline to be accelerated if there is "material realignment" again.
 

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Amazing what you can find when your read the articles released that no one read originally. This MOU was not some special contract ND signed. It laid out all the terms for the near future till the 16 team is eventually agreed upon.

“Why does ND get special treatment!?”

*Signs agreement where schools are getting millions in unequal payout for doing nothing*
 

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He and I always do. But he also likes to watch the teams he sees on Sportscenter. He just loves telling me who won and who lost all the games in all the sports. I’d keep him 5 forever if I could. He especially enjoys watching games from ‘93 (besides BC) since I was the same age then that he is now.
A future ND historian! Love it!
 

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Man if Simpson is actually hurt and they didn't disclose it + DeBoer leaves this is going to be the biggest farce. They are SO LUCKY they are playing shit bag Oklahoma that has no offense instead of Miami/A&M or they would get blown the fuck out.
 

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Man if Simpson is actually hurt and they didn't disclose it + DeBoer leaves this is going to be the biggest farce. They are SO LUCKY they are playing shit bag Oklahoma that has no offense instead of Miami/A&M or they would get blown the fuck out.
Given what likely went down (i.e., collusion) I doubt Simpson being out would have kept them out of the CFP. The SEC gets paid if Bama is in, regardless of whether Simpson is healthy.
 

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- Rule says that you consider key loses before giving a playoff spot
- Ole Miss loses HC and Alabama loses QB
- "We considered . . . expect SEC teams to play better as a result of new motivators . . . we're bumping them both up."
i almost wouldn't have been surprised if they had tried using KVA as a reason to drop us
 

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Given what likely went down (i.e., collusion) I doubt Simpson being out would have kept them out of the CFP. The SEC gets paid if Bama is in, regardless of whether Simpson is healthy.


Assuming they did not know that he was badly injured, the reason they were able to get away with the collusion against ND was the fact that
1) An ACC school would benefit
2) That ACC school beat ND head to head

It's BS, but ND is not loved by anyone on the committee and hated by a good % of the public, so they felt confident in getting away with it.

Now, if we assume they knew how badly he is injured, I think they risked this thing blowing up in their face way worse than just ND being upset.

There was a lot of disagreement over how they kept FSU out. And, keeping them out sets a precedent that they are then breaking by keeping Bama in.

Would the non-SEC members of the committee been willing to break that precedent and risk the possible PR debacle if it became known that they knew? Or, because it screwed over ND were they more inclined to do it and think that the fact that it hurt ND would play well enough in the public that people would be less angry that they broke the FSU precedent?

I am more interested than ever in trying to get to the bottom of what information was known in that room and what kind of deals were made. If we can prove that they knew about Simpson's injury and the ACC voices made a deal that reversed the precedent that had previously hurt their conference just so they could further stick it to ND than we have even more ammo to nuke that ACC deal into the sun without paying a dime.
 

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Man if Simpson is actually hurt and they didn't disclose it + DeBoer leaves this is going to be the biggest farce. They are SO LUCKY they are playing shit bag Oklahoma that has no offense instead of Miami/A&M or they would get blown the fuck out.

I really need to take a break from this stuff until next fall.

Between your comments here, the stuff about the non-recusals, even this report on the MOU....I'm so jaded towards CFB right now.
 

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Assuming they did not know that he was badly injured, the reason they were able to get away with the collusion against ND was the fact that
1) An ACC school would benefit
2) That ACC school beat ND head to head

It's BS, but ND is not loved by anyone on the committee and hated by a good % of the public, so they felt confident in getting away with it.

Now, if we assume they knew how badly he is injured, I think they risked this thing blowing up in their face way worse than just ND being upset.

There was a lot of disagreement over how they kept FSU out. And, keeping them out sets a precedent that they are then breaking by keeping Bama in.

Would the non-SEC members of the committee been willing to break that precedent and risk the possible PR debacle if it became known that they knew? Or, because it screwed over ND were they more inclined to do it and think that the fact that it hurt ND would play well enough in the public that people would be less angry that they broke the FSU precedent?

I am more interested than ever in trying to get to the bottom of what information was known in that room and what kind of deals were made. If we can prove that they knew about Simpson's injury and the ACC voices made a deal that reversed the precedent that had previously hurt their conference just so they could further stick it to ND than we have even more ammo to nuke that ACC deal into the sun without paying a dime.
The head-to-head thing is being overplayed in explaining what went down. The evidence from that phone call suggests that it was more about ensuring the ACC wasn't locked out than it was about "honoring" head-to-head. As we all know, past practice has not treated honoring head-to-head results as some absolute rule when two teams have the same number of the losses. If we beat Miami and then Duke wins the ACCG, they probably put Duke in because of their impressive (gutsy?) win vs. UVA.
 

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Past precedents don’t mean shit to these people.
For sure.

However, I'm interested in the legal aspect of what them breaking past precedent might mean in terms of our ability to sue. They are so hypocritical and cocky that they just assume they can do what they want.
 
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