2025 College Football Playoffs

[IrishTusker]

I think some ND fans think that since they believed ND should be over FSU in 1993 because ND won head-to-head, they have to take the same position now. I don't agree.

As everyone knows, ND wasn't ranked ahead of FSU in 1993, despite the head-to-head win, even though that game was played in November, not August, and even though 1993 BC was better than 2025 SMU and Louisville. 1993 set (or continued) the precedent that head-to-head is relevant, not dispositive. Matt Fortuna mentioned 2008 OU/Texas as another example.

It's like if the government passed a new law forbidding wearing yellow hats on Tuesdays. You might not agree with that law. But once it is the law, it is an injustice if it isn't enforced equally against everyone. It would be absurd to say: 'I don't agree with this law, so it shouldn't be enforced against Bob now, even though it was enforced against me yesterday.' It should either be enforced against both Bob and I, or not enforced against either.

 

[Riddickulous]

After watching the games last night, it is a shame that either Notre Dame, BYU or Miami would be left out for a team like Tulane, N Texas or JMU

This should be where all the whining is going, but whatever.

 

[IrishLax]

More serious leaks from the committee.

A&M is -5000 to make the Quarterfinals on FanDuel. Oregon is -650, Ole Miss is -140, Bama -200, ND +105, OU +160. Someone knows something here. The only explanation here is A&M is moving up from the 7 seed.

As others have said, we should know if we are in or not prior to the Sunday bracket reveal just looking at the Sportsbooks.

Totally unserious process. Probably the most inherently biased / corruptible group imaginable. Almost all of these people have some sort of conflict of interest and leak like a sieve.

 

[1776]

MF and the school need to go all-in on the “ND against the world” mentality when we make it in tomorrow.

Going on the road to a hostile environment, play it up everywhere we go.

We are hated again and it feels so good

 

[IrishTusker]

We'll see about the odds. I didn't realize but apparently FSU was -800 to make it in 2023 the morning of the selection show? Maybe this group leaks more, who knows. The shift toward Bama last week was interesting and obviously proved something.

 

[Bane]

We'll see about the odds. I didn't realize but apparently FSU was -800 to make it in 2023 the morning of the selection show? Maybe this group leaks more, who knows. The shift toward Bama last week was interesting and obviously proved something.

I think also that was totally unprecedented and not completely analogous to the situation here. The idea that an undefeated P4 conference champion with a prestige brand like FSU could be left out of the playoffs just was unheard of.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Hopefully the lines having been shifting due to all of the action on Yes Miami/No Notre Dame and Vegas eventually makes a call to the committee.

 

[Kingbish01]

I'll be watching ND live line during the BYU game. If it fluctuates with every score, I think the proof is in the pudding.

 

[1776]

Rece Davis telling the CFP chair that he “won’t go easy” on him tomorrow if there is controversy is stone cold tampering. Basically a threat if they keep us ahead of Miami

 

[Kingbish01]

Hopefully the lines having been shifting due to all of the action on Yes Miami/No Notre Dame and Vegas eventually makes a call to the committee.

IMO the opening line and live line or more of an indication as to what's going to happen, and not the idle week of line movement.

 

[Bane]

As if we needed another reason to cheer for TT today.

 

[NDRock]

So, if ND gets in after all of this, who gets to take credit for being right, the “bed wetters” or the “ND is in at 10-2” crowd? How say you?

 

[Kingbish01]

As if we needed another reason to cheer for TT today.

50 year old frat bro... I like barstool, I even like Dave but you have to call a spade a spade

 

[sfk324]

Rece Davis telling the CFP chair that he “won’t go easy” on him tomorrow if there is controversy is stone cold tampering. Basically a threat if they keep us ahead of Miami

It would be controversial whatever they do. The head-to-head talking point has been beaten to death and then some. But moving Miami ahead of ND when they are both idle and o the only thing that has changed for either of them is ND's SOS improved with the BSU win would be ludicrous. If the committee thinks Miami is the better team, they should already be ranked ahead of ND.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I think some ND fans think that since they believed ND should be over FSU in 1993 because ND won head-to-head, they have to take the same position now. I don't agree.

As everyone knows, ND wasn't ranked ahead of FSU in 1993, despite the head-to-head win, even though that game was played in November, not August, and even though 1993 BC was better than 2025 SMU and Louisville. 1993 set (or continued) the precedent that head-to-head is relevant, not dispositive. Matt Fortuna mentioned 2008 OU/Texas as another example.

It's like if the government passed a new law forbidding wearing yellow hats on Tuesdays. You might not agree with that law. But once it is the law, it is an injustice if it isn't enforced equally against everyone. It would be absurd to say: 'I don't agree with this law, so it shouldn't be enforced against Bob now, even though it was enforced against me yesterday.' It should either be enforced against both Bob and I, or not enforced against either.

To me, 1993 justifies ND over Miami this season. Same w/ OU over UT in ‘08 & I believe BSU & Oregon from not too long ago (LaGarrett Blount year?). ND was ranked over FSU for one week…LOL. Just like Miami jumped up past ND until they lost to SMU. And I agree, ND won convincingly over FSU (regardless of score) & lost the following week in a let down game to ranked BC on a last second FG. Much better argument than what Miami has. Additionally, had Miami played Rice or FIU instead of ND; they’d be 10-2 but w/ no possibility of the CFP b/c they’d be behind all the 10-2 P4 teams. I guess ND is pretty good considering what they mean to Miami.

 

[Kingbish01]

So, if ND gets in after all of this, who gets to take credit for being right, the “bed wetters” or the “ND is in at 10-2” crowd? How say you?

If they get in, aren't the bed wetters wrong? I've been saying since week 3 that a 10-2 Notre Dame does not get left out and I still believe that, I just hate that it is riding on BYU whereas in week three I didn't think it would matter.

 

[Bane]

Rece Davis telling the CFP chair that he “won’t go easy” on him tomorrow if there is controversy is stone cold tampering. Basically a threat if they keep us ahead of Miami

Rece has been attempting to push Miami over ND with Yurachek in every interview.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Rece has been attempting to push Miami over ND with Yurachek in every interview.

I’ve always liked Rece but he has come off as obsessed despite not being a Miami alum. Then again, he’s a Bammer so that doesn’t let him off the hook in regards to anti-ND bias.

 

[IrishTusker]

So, if ND gets in after all of this, who gets to take credit for being right, the “bed wetters” or the “ND is in at 10-2” crowd? How say you?

I would have said (and believe I did?) that after A&M, we're at an 80% chance to get in if we go 10-2. Now it's like 50/50 because a bunch of breaks went against us; mainly, OU beating Bama and Miami losing twice (as opposed to once or three times). We've had bad luck, but I don't know if it's been absolutely awful- Michigan and Texas could both have been 10-2.

 

[Bane]

If they get in, aren't the bed wetters wrong? I've been saying since week 3 that a 10-2 Notre Dame does not get left out and I still believe that, I just hate that it is riding on BYU whereas in week three I didn't think it would matter.

I think where there was some confusion between the two was that the "bedwetters" took people being confident that at 10-2 ND would be in to me ND didn't need any help. A 2 loss team basically always needs help. I think people saying "go 10-2 and you're in" were just baking in the assumption that because it's college football the amount of necessary "chaos" would ensue over the course of the season to open the path for us. In the end both sides have been partially right, ND has needed more help than I had thought they would need, but also we are in a good spot to make the playoffs and forced ourselves into the conversation.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Off the top of my head, CFB journalists who cover the sport nationally which should require ethics w/o bias yet went full-blown message board fan when their respective alma maters needed help.

Bruce Feldman - Miami alum
Andrea Adelson - Miami alum
Chris Fallica - Miami alum
Dan Le Batard - Miami alum
Dan Wolken - Vandy alum

and while their alma mater couldn’t even get bowl eligible, much less in the mix for CFP: these two got all but hurt last week when ND was continuing to try to score w/ their backups late.

Stanford Steve - Stanford alum
Dave Fleming - Stanford alum

IF ND GETS LEFT OUT THIS YEAR, I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER TALKING HEAD CRYNG ABOUT ND GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT. AND IF MIAMI GETS LEFT OUT AS WELL, I DON’T WANT TO HEAR HOW ND SHOULD “JOIN A CONFERENCE” B/C IT CLEARLY DOESN’T MEAN SHIT THIS SEASON.

 

[bcole2]

Rece is a perfect example of the talking heads pushing a narrative brought up by ESPN to create engagement and ratings. His personal AP ballot this past week was the following:

8 Notre Dame
9 Oklahoma
10 Alabama
11 BYU
12 Miami

 

[Kingbish01]

I think where there was some confusion between the two was that the "bedwetters" took people being confident that at 10-2 ND would be in to me ND didn't need any help. A 2 loss team basically always needs help. I think people saying "go 10-2 and you're in" were just baking in the assumption that because it's college football the amount of necessary "chaos" would ensue over the course of the season to open the path for us. In the end both sides have been partially right, ND has needed more help than I had thought they would need, but also we are in a good spot to make the playoffs and forced ourselves into the conversation.

And here I just assumed the bed wetters were just the chicken littles at home pissing the bed with tears in their eyes...lmao

 

[GATTACA!]

Rece has been attempting to push Miami over ND with Yurachek in every interview.

And yet Rece has ND ranked 8th and Miami 12th in his AP ballot.

 

[Kingbish01]

The odds are changing with first downs....LFG Texas Tech!!

 

[ozzman]

I’ve always liked Rece but he has come off as obsessed despite not being a Miami alum. Then again, he’s a Bammer so that doesn’t let him off the hook in regards to anti-ND bias.

We should ask Rece where he has ND ranked

Rece Davis at College Poll Tracker

collegepolltracker.com

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Not Tessitore!!!

 

[irishfan]

If they get in, aren't the bed wetters wrong? I've been saying since week 3 that a 10-2 Notre Dame does not get left out and I still believe that, I just hate that it is riding on BYU whereas in week three I didn't think it would matter.

Bedwetters were clearly right. Required us getting zero breaks, but our fate is fully out of our hands day before bracket reveal.

 

[irishff1014]

Rece is a perfect example of the talking heads pushing a narrative brought up by ESPN to create engagement and ratings. His personal AP ballot this past week was the following:

8 Notre Dame
9 Oklahoma
10 Alabama
11 BYU
12 Miami

Rece had us at 8 wow.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Any chance we’d get the Holiday Bowl? I’ll be in San Diego for Christmas.