2025 College Football Playoffs

[wallym]

I've thought of that, too.

me three, after that committee tool said that it was a factor in moving them above us.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

CFP 2024 W/L records by conference:
Big 10: 6-3
SEC: 2-3
ACC: 0-2
Big 12: 0-1
G5: 0-1
ND: 3-1

ND had more CFP wins in the inaugural 12 team playoff than the SEC, ACC, Big 12, and G5 combined. And all these conferences are trying to say ND doesn't belong...fuck them.

 

[DillonHall]

Yeah, I don't get this logic at all.

ND, as is, is seen by the committee to have a superior resume to both BYU and Miami. Whether people agree or not is irrelevant.

But both ND and Miami are idle. For them nothing changes. So the resumes remain stagnant, and ND would still have to be considered the better team for the 12 team playoff. The committee chair going on Golic and essentially say that right now ND is the better team is pretty telling. You can't walk that back, because neither team plays next week. There's no new shocking developments that can change.

Nothing about this process is logical. The committee's gonna do what it wants to do, and it's anybody's guess what that'll be

 

[Kingbish01]

God forbid Bama beats UGA and ends up 4th with a bye after losing to FSU 🤦🏻

 

[jprue24]

I hope Duke wins, fuck the ACC.

 

[US_Highway14]

I hope Duke wins, fuck the ACC.

Duke winning probably wouldn't be a good idea, because it would force the playoff committee to put an ACC team in for a "representation", in which they'd likely make Miami jump us.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

The more I think about this, the more I realize ND is actually starting to scare the big conferences. Freeman is building a program quite unique in an era of mercenary p2p college football. If ND wins a national title it would undercut the paradigm shift towards superconferences, while invalidating the "it just means more" mantra of the SEC/ESPN media complex.

 

[forkbeard3777]

God forbid Bama beats UGA and ends up 4th with a bye after losing to FSU 🤦🏻

I still believe if Alabama loses somewhat badly (14+) and BYU also loses, the committee won’t stick their neck out for Alabama and they will put both Miami and Notre Dame in.

 

[stlnd01]

Duke winning probably wouldn't be a good idea, because it would force the playoff committee to put an ACC team in for a "representation", in which they'd likely make Miami jump us.

It doesn't force anything. No one except for (some) ACC schools give a fuck about the ACC.

 

[forkbeard3777]

The more I think about this, the more I realize ND is actually starting to scare the big conferences. Freeman is building a program quite unique in an era of mercenary p2p college football. If ND wins a national title it would undercut the paradigm shift towards superconferences, while invalidating the "it just means more" mantra of the SEC/ESPN media complex.

Not really at all. Most are just annoyed at ND’s schedule. I say that as one who truthfully believes ND is a top 3 team.

 

[stlnd01]

I still believe if Alabama loses somewhat badly (14+) and BYU also loses, the committee won’t stick their neck out for Alabama and they will put both Miami and Notre Dame in.

I tend to agree. And honestly this is the best outcome. Notre Dame and Miami both deserve a spot ahead of Bama, especially if Bama loses by multi scores in the SECCG.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Im in a weird place right now

Normally, even when we were somewhat successful with BK, and perenially before that, I would think "this might be it... we might not have this type of team ever again! We need to do it now!"

As much of an abomination it would be if we were bumped out... I keep thinking how nails next year's team is going to be

If we get screwed because we had a slow start, im not gonna melt. MFMF and this new reality at ND has me feeling different.

 

[Kingbish01]

I still believe if Alabama loses somewhat badly (14+) and BYU also loses, the committee won’t stick their neck out for Alabama and they will put both Miami and Notre Dame in.

Thats what a lot of people are saying, I just have this feeling Bama is in regardless. And I don't know why.

I went to the Bama/Uga game earlier this year and Bama (and UGA if I'm being honest) was just blah to me. Then I went to the Texas/UGA game a few weeks ago....and UGA looked like a completely different team...mainly because of Gunner....so my point to all that is UGA shouldn't lose to Bama Sat.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Thats what a lot of people are saying, I just have this feeling Bama is in regardless. And I don't know why.

I went to the Bama/Uga game earlier this year and Bama (and UGA if I'm being honest) was just blah to me. Then I went to the Texas/UGA game a few weeks ago....and UGA looked like a completely different team...mainly because of Gunner....so my point to all that is UGA shouldn't lose to Bama Sat.

Alabama can’t run the ball. Alabama also isn’t great at run defense. They may be good enough to win a game and Ty Simpson is playing well, but they aren’t a threat to make a run. That’s just me…

They’re a good team. They aren’t an elite or great team, however.

I mean, I think it’s fair to see that we all wouldn’t confidently pick them to win over ND/IU/Ohio State/Oregon/Texas/Texas A&M/Miami/Texas Tech …

 

[BeatSC]

Ok I just don’t see a three loss non conference champ losing to the team who was previously their resume builder gets in above us. Let’s just get on with both bama and byu losing and get this BS over with. Still don’t know why TT doesn’t get knocked out with two losses. Who did they beat? BYU and then they come back and erase their marquee win with a loss. I don’t GAS about not allowing championship game participation to impact your rating. You lose a game you drop in the ratings. They should just 86 these BS championship games and open the playoffs to 16 teams. No gang of 5 team unless they are undefeated. No 3 loss team gets in unless they are conference champ. Eliminate the divisions 2 games from the schedules. If you want an extra bye week then figure it out.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Ok I just don’t see a three loss non conference champ losing to the team who was previously their resume builder gets in above us. Let’s just get on with both bama and byu losing and get this BS over with. Still don’t know why TT doesn’t get knocked out with two losses. Who did they beat? BYU and then they come back and erase their marquee win with a loss. I don’t GAS about not allowing championship game participation to impact your rating. You lose a game you drop in the ratings. They should just 86 these BS championship games and open the playoffs to 16 teams. No gang of 5 team unless they are undefeated. No 3 loss team gets in unless they are conference champ. Eliminate the divisions 2 games from the schedules. If you want an extra bye week then figure it out.

Yup. What incentive does Alabama get from playing it? If you’re Ohio State and Indiana, shit, I’m playing walk ons and resting my starters. The landscape and format has changed. The conferences need to change with it.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I don’t think you know what patently false means. They all dropped. You can justify it if you would like, but they all dropped. You also excluded Iowa State.

Being punished by getting dropped and moving for teams that won the conference aren't the same.

That isn't justification. It's simply a fact.

Same happened to Iowa State, they lost and Clemson won, so Clemson jumped ahead of them.

They weren't punished for losing, but the teams behind them were rewarded for winning. That's how it works.

I'm speaking in terms of the situation with BYU/Alabama. Last year, the teams that "dropped" fell behind teams that won. The pecking order changed. If Alabama or BYU win, that pecking order will also change. That isn't punishment, it's that teams that win their conference have to be rewarded and prioritized accordingly. But if BYU wins and is rewarded, then ND is almost certainly out.

The point is that by the own committees logic, they will reward conference winners, but not punish conference losers. If they want to change that stance, they can. But that logic better be uniform across the board. If BYU is punished for losing, then Alabama must also be punished for losing.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Yup. What incentive does Alabama get from playing it? If you’re Ohio State and Indiana, shit, I’m playing walk ons and resting my starters. The landscape and format has changed. The conferences need to change with it.

There really isn't any incentive for Ohio State or Indiana. Alabama at least has the shot at a first round BYE, rather than playing on the road.

But Ohio State and Indiana have to be basically assured first round byes at this point. Other than conference glory, what is the incentive?

This kind of stuff is going to bring about the end of the CCGs.

 

[Dale]

Being punished by getting dropped and moving for teams that won the conference aren't the same.

That isn't justification. It's simply a fact.

Same happened to Iowa State, they lost and Clemson won, so Clemson jumped ahead of them.

They weren't punished for losing, but the teams behind them were rewarded for winning. That's how it works.

I'm speaking in terms of the situation with BYU/Alabama. Last year, the teams that "dropped" fell behind teams that won. The pecking order changed. If Alabama or BYU win, that pecking order will also change. That isn't punishment, it's that teams that win their conference have to be rewarded and prioritized accordingly. But if BYU wins and is rewarded, then ND is almost certainly out.

The point is that by the own committees logic, they will reward conference winners, but not punish conference losers. If they want to change that stance, they can. But that logic better be uniform across the board. If BYU is punished for losing, then Alabama must also be punished for losing.

I never said BYU will be punished as you’re making this a debate on adjectives to avoid the simple fact that every team dropped after they lost last year. Can it be explained? Sure! You are saying BYU won’t drop. Great! Hopefully they don’t. But this constant fitting of rules that’s you’ve invented is just silly.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

I never said BYU will be punished as you’re making this a debate on adjectives to avoid the simple fact that every team dropped after they lost last year. Can it be explained? Sure! You are saying BYU won’t drop. Great! Hopefully they don’t. But this constant fitting of rules that’s you’ve invented is just silly.

Teams that lost last year in their CCG dropped but not behind an at large. Both dropped right in front of us in the rankings.

 

[T-Boone]

Mark Twain said there were lies
then DAMN LIES
then statistics

Was that Twain? I love Twain. Just finished Huck Finn and its the best book I've read in ages. Some consider Twain the first stand up comedian. He once travelled to Australia and came to Newcastle which is where I live. He was born the year Haley's comet was here and died the year of the next time it was here.

 

[T-Boone]

But because Tulane has the future SEC coach and is a better brand then North Texas, they get the path cleared for them.

As far as brands go North Texas (sounds huge) SOUNDS a lot better than Tulane (which sounds like a sleepy highway).

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Thats what a lot of people are saying, I just have this feeling Bama is in regardless. And I don't know why.

I went to the Bama/Uga game earlier this year and Bama (and UGA if I'm being honest) was just blah to me. Then I went to the Texas/UGA game a few weeks ago....and UGA looked like a completely different team...mainly because of Gunner....so my point to all that is UGA shouldn't lose to Bama Sat.

Agreed. It looked obvious as to why they put Bama in a safe spot rankings-wise. They knew they couldn’t leave Bama out two years in a row. Yuracek‘s weak reasoning all but told us as much. Zero chance Bama gets left out b/c they beat UGA in the regular season in Athens so it’ll be like 2000 when ND beat Clemson but got blown out in the CCG by Clemson yet still made the 4-team CFP. I could even see them using that as an example.

 

[T-Boone]

Georgia will probably get up by 21 in the 3rd and then go soft and Bama get within 10.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Georgia will probably get up by 21 in the 3rd and then go soft and Bama get within 10.

I guess … Alabama is 8-1 agains them in the past 10 years …

 

[T-Boone]

I guess … Alabama is 8-1 agains them in the past 10 years …

7 of those were in the Saban years. Different times.

 

[Bane]

Man, I'm so tired of politicians weighing in on this. They are literally attempting to use their government positions to strongarm their teams into the playoffs, it's insane. I don't want to get political but I will say that most of this bullshit is coming from one side. It doesn't matter what your political persuasion is though, I think can everyone can agree that the senior senator from Utah, the sitting Secretary of State, and the sitting governors of Texas and Florida having more important issues to worry about.

I mean, can we at least get the Pope to weigh in for us??

 

[Bane]

As far as brands go North Texas (sounds huge) SOUNDS a lot better than Tulane (which sounds like a sleepy highway).

Fun fact, Tulane actually has more SEC titles than Ole Miss. Tulane was once a pretty big deal, at least relatively. I think it's a better job and a better school than North Texas.

(I'm also not unaware you were just making a joke lol)

 

[TracyGraham]

Georgia will probably get up by 21 in the 3rd and then go soft and Bama get within 10.

I've seen Georgia in a few games and unfortunately they don't stand out as some dominant team. For example, if memory serves me right, they were on the ropes for the majority of the Tennessee game then somehow pulled it out. In fact that seemed to be their MO, to look sloppy and then find a way to win. Even the Texas game was close for 3 quarters.
Auburn, GT, Florida, Texas, Bama, Tenessee, ole miss were all close games for the majority if not all the games.

Unfortunately, I dont expect Georgia to blow out Bama. I'm not even confident they will win. Both teams are really strong at times, and suspect other times. If our chances rest on a Georgia blowout, then things are not promising, IMO.

 

[GATTACA!]

Ngl I’m going to be really crestfallen if we don’t end up making the playoffs. This is the most complete ND team of my lifetime, we’re mostly healthy, and there are really no juggernauts in our way.

OSU is a great but I think their team last year was better and we are certainly better than 2024 at this point. Anything can happen, we could make it in and lose our first game. I honestly feel like we have a rather decent shot of winning it all though and that’s making this all the more painful.