Trump Presidency Round 2

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Getting duped by an old video or AI, a time honored tradition on IE for our conservative friends.

Who’s going to pull out the meme about no conflicts under Trump but only Obama and Biden? Remember the strategic retreat from the world stage and the brilliance that was celebrated here. Guess that’s old news! Ukraine and Gaza were blamed on Biden, glad Donald is taking a direct approach and doing Desert Storm 3.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Getting duped by an old video or AI, a time honored tradition on IE for our conservative friends.

Who’s going to pull out the meme about no conflicts under Trump but only Obama and Biden? Remember the strategic retreat from the world stage and the brilliance that was celebrated here. Guess that’s old news! Ukraine and Gaza were blamed on Biden, glad Donald is taking a direct approach and doing Desert Storm 3.
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“Donald just wanted to prove that he wasn’t chicken.” -Diddyup
 
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Watch Trump as he says god bless the US, god bless the middle east, and god bless Iran. It was obviously not an easy decision and It's hard to make big boy calls like this for anyone.

Biden gave 6 billion dollars to Iran and Obama gave similar. If anyone wants to know why this happened. Look up what you supported.

Trump said many times on the campaign trail. "Iran will not have nuclear weapons".
 
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Gladiator said:
Hold my beer says Trump. I was recently told by a friend, that his children In the Airforce have been bombing Iran for 6-8 months. You won't find this information In the media.
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The inauguration was 5 months ago. So we're to believe that on his way out the door Biden started bombing Iran, Trump decided to keep bombing them, and the first we're hearing of it is on a Notre Dame message board?

Does your friend wear a collar and like peeing on fire hydrants?
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
I feel like this sort of leaves out the facts that he tried for over two months to negotiate a peaceful termination of their nuclear program and that Iran purposefully stalled negotiations so they could run out the clock and assemble nuclear warheads.
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Sounds like russia
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
I feel like this sort of leaves out the facts that he tried for over two months to negotiate a peaceful termination of their nuclear program and that Iran purposefully stalled negotiations so they could run out the clock and assemble nuclear warheads.
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After he killed the deal we already had with them last time he was in charge and Israel assassinated the Iranian negotiator that was dealing with us.

The negotiation shit was clearly just mouth service while Israel planned their attack. If it wasn’t Trump is a moron that got forced into a war by Bibi.
 
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This is so confusing, lol. So we are against simply supplying arms to Ukraine when they are invaded but we are cool with using our planes and pilots toattack Iran even though they arent creating a direct threat to us?
I image some people will justify this with mental gymnastics, but this doesnt add up. Either we are "America first" or not.
Honestly, I dont think even Trump is in control. Democrats start wars in the middle east, neocons, America first, Obama, etc, it doesn't matter what party.
I cant help but wonder who really is in charge and why everyone succumbs when the get in office.
 
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So what? Are you serious? You just justify this no matter what. Suppose I told you there is an oppressed people in a given country in Africa. Do we invade? There are supposedly slave markets in Libya, do we invade? I'm sure I can find bad regimes throughout the world. You want to do regime change in every place? As far as I can remember, every regime change in the middle east has led to disaster. Just a month ago people were arguing against any involvement anywhere, but now we are gonna pretend that wasnt the motto?
 
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drayer54 said:
YES! Peace through strength. Peace through deterrence. Peace through bold decision making. Glad you are learning.
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I guess..... Isnt that what every single country going to war says? Seems like famous last words 50% of the time.... The blitzkrieg was definitely bold decision making and maybe Hitler thought it would result in "peace through strength" and even root out communism. Im sure you could have said taking out Saddam was "peace through strength." Was what we did in libya "peace through strength?" Those ended up as disasters. I suppose the Iran situation could end well, but if one has any understanding of even recent history, they can see it is risky to say the least.
Are we really gonna try to put lipstick on this pig or can we be honest?
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
I feel like this sort of leaves out the facts that he tried for over two months to negotiate a peaceful termination of their nuclear program and that Iran purposefully stalled negotiations so they could run out the clock and assemble nuclear warheads.
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There is no evidence of that.

Let’s go to war based on “feelings”, great.
 
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