Trump Presidency Round 2

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TorontoGold said:
Oh shit - does this mean it's a right wing bubble piece that no one should trust?

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Now, lets see those who supported you calling out "left wing bubble piece" will also call you out for the "right wing bubble piece"

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That’s quite the rant and it seems like you have a hard time dealing with legitimate criticisms of the current president, even going so far as lying to defend him. That’s kind of strange honestly.

You are correct we are not discussing the border. Here’s some things we have been discussing air traffic control being a complete disaster due in part to a bunch of employees heading for the exists due to this admin, the Russia Ukraine war the was supposed to be over in 24 hours or whatever, the renewed genocide in Gaza thanks to Israel violating the ceasefire, the stock market going off a cliff, deporting citizens with no due process, suppressing free speech, violating the constitution in general, the Trump family’s financial conflicts of interest, measles outbreaks, and now a hot war between Pakistan and India. Good times!
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At least that's taken care of.

 
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drayer54 said:
Do I need Jonathan Karl or bluesky freaks to call it out to be real?
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Please point out when I've done that.

You and the others who liked your post routinely cry out at how biased the media is but then can't even abide by your own justifications. At this point its just projection because all the uproar about biased media is by the very same people who post from the most biased sources.
 
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TorontoGold said:
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I mean.....three different sources agree with me. Price controls or a way to reduce lower prescription costs should be celebrated and something that I think *finally* gives back to his base. Populism Right or Left will always attract people who are under educated and poor, people who typically have their material needs met aren't going to support populism.
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There's plenty to dive into here with these polls, but they omit a few realities of life and many don't support your position:

1) Education does not equal = intelligence. "The world is full of educated derelicts."

2) Education does not always equate to financial success. There's plenty of landscaping company owners and pizza shop owners with no education beyond high school, and there's thousands of college grads bartending full time.

3) People making over $100k are neck and neck 51-46.

4) If you were non white and no college degree, you went pretty strong for Kamala. Does that mean minorities who have no advanced education are the modern Dem base?

5) Dems should be most concerned about why 18-29 age males and Latino men went decidedly Trump.
 
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Polish Leppy 22 said:
There's plenty to dive into here with these polls, but they omit a few realities of life and many don't support your position:

1) Education does not equal = intelligence. "The world is full of educated derelicts."

2) Education does not always equate to financial success. There's plenty of landscaping company owners and pizza shop owners with no education beyond high school, and there's thousands of college grads bartending full time.

3) People making over $100k are neck and neck 51-46.

4) If you were non white and no college degree, you went pretty strong for Kamala. Does that mean minorities who have no advanced education are the modern Dem base?

5) Dems should be most concerned about why 18-29 age males and Latino men went decidedly Trump.
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"Realities of life" would be.....realities if they bore themselves out in the, you know, data. They don't.

1) Education is the best proxy of intelligence we have available that is tracked with voting intention. So, I know you have vibez and feels but it doesn't really hold water.

2) That's nice. I know a few people who been very successful that didn't go to university. But, you will never be able to argue to a serious person that higher education level does not correlate with higher earnings. It doesn't work.

3) A 5% swing in popular vote would sway the popular vote in all elections post 2000 except for Obama 08. It is quite significant.

4) For sure. The Dem leadership would be smart to embrace them.

5) I agree they should be very concerned with that. You seem to forget or not remember that I've been very critical of the Dem leadership.
 
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BuaConstrictor said:
Why wouldn't he?
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TorontoGold said:
"Realities of life" would be.....realities if they bore themselves out in the, you know, data. They don't.

1) Education is the best proxy of intelligence we have available that is tracked with voting intention. So, I know you have vibez and feels but it doesn't really hold water.

2) That's nice. I know a few people who been very successful that didn't go to university. But, you will never be able to argue to a serious person that higher education level does not correlate with higher earnings. It doesn't work.

3) A 5% swing in popular vote would sway the popular vote in all elections post 2000 except for Obama 08. It is quite significant.

4) For sure. The Dem leadership would be smart to embrace them.

5) I agree they should be very concerned with that. You seem to forget or not remember that I've been very critical of the Dem leadership.
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I don't view education as a good proxy of intelligence in the 21st century. College degrees are unimportant outside of STEM. But I struggle with how to find an alternative to a better proxy. So I'm stuck in a hard place here because I'm rejecting your statement without providing an alternative.

The correlation is certainly there, but here in ND, the big earners are farmers and doctors. Many farmers have degrees, but didn't need it for the job. The doctors obviously go through a ton of schooling.

I guess my position is I don't view education as some sorta certificate indicating intelligence. I have a "doctor" degree. I don't think I'm particularly bright. My buddy is a Mayo anesthesia doc who is a savant at math and science and super MAGA. He'd be the first to tell you he's an idiot.

None of this is contradicting your statements really, I just don't put a ton of weight behind education. The people who do, from my experience, are objectively dumb people. (Not accusing you of doing that, again)
 
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NorthDakota said:
Is the Gazan government

I don't view education as a good proxy of intelligence in the 21st century. College degrees are unimportant outside of STEM. But I struggle with how to find an alternative to a better proxy. So I'm stuck in a hard place here because I'm rejecting your statement without providing an alternative.

The correlation is certainly there, but here in ND, the big earners are farmers and doctors. Many farmers have degrees, but didn't need it for the job. The doctors obviously go through a ton of schooling.

I guess my position is I don't view education as some sorta certificate indicating intelligence. I have a "doctor" degree. I don't think I'm particularly bright. My buddy is a Mayo anesthesia doc who is a savant at math and science and super MAGA. He'd be the first to tell you he's an idiot.

None of this is contradicting your statements really, I just don't put a ton of weight behind education. The people who do, from my experience, are objectively dumb people. (Not accusing you of doing that, again)
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Agree with this sentiment. I’m trained in nuclear engineering and I’m a fucking idiot
 
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BuaConstrictor said:
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I can't help you if you don't follow the news.
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… do you think the UAE and Qatar are the same country? Or do you think a business as usual arms deal to one of our top allies in the Middle East and the UAE investment into Affinity is a conflict are actually related?
 
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