Trump Presidency Round 2

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The biggest problem with politics in this county is that neither side holds their elected officials accountable for anything. As long as they're "owning" the other side, all is good. This 3rd term shit is circumventing the Constitution and the Republic and his followers will talk themselves into it. The Executive power grab has been going on for decades and both sides are guilty and will ultimately end in someone taking over and just becoming the President for life. Never thought I'd actually think that but it's trending to be inevitable. Congress is spineless.
I've noticed the same for awhile. Congress is dysfunctional. President exerts more power with each passing presidency. I've made a similar comment years ago that we are on a road that would eventually lead to a President just saying "ahhh fuck it" and just does whatever they want.

I always thought it would probably be a Dem because of how the legacy media did the parties bidding. I was hopeful that the media would help keep Trump in check. I overestimated that ability as we have now reached a point where nobody takes the legacy media seriously anyhow and it's all dismissed as propaganda for one side or the other. The media cried wolf too many times and here we are.
 
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Irish#1

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Nah. I hate Saudi Arabia. You know the country whose citizens bankrolled both Al Qaeda and Isis.

I also hate the white nationalists and right wingers who blew up the Olympics complex in Atlanta, blew up the fed building in Oklahoma City and stormed the Capital on January 6th along with the piece of shit that pardoned all of them.

Wake me up when the big bad Houthis do anything close to say blowing up a skyscraper in downtown Manhattan or something then we can start to have a serious conversation about “terrorism”.
So it's okay as long as you're not doing something on the scale of 911 or OKC? Got it.
 

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Waiting to hear our resident maga's defend this

Another too soon overreaction. This can't happen without both Houses approving it and I don't think he could get the votes even if both houses are Repub.
 
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He's already trying to amend to constitution but executive order, why any one would trust him to abide by the rules at this point is beyond me.
 

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He's already trying to amend to constitution but executive order, why any one would trust him to abide by the rules at this point is beyond me.
Where do we weigh the power of executive order versus tweet in amending the constitution?

The EO is challenging the interpretation of birthright citizenship rather than adding a brand new amendment at least
 
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Where do we weigh the power of executive order versus tweet in amending the constitution?

The EO is challenging the interpretation of birthright citizenship rather than adding a brand new amendment at least
He's bull dozing thru every check and balance to completely over haul how government operates. This has been the Republicans ultimate goal for over 40 years, they just never thought someone like Trump would be wielding the power.
 

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You say it's 100% a seig heil yet the Jews don't seem to think so? How am I to square these clearly conflicting statements?

No idea on having African servants or not, but even supposing that's true, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

My Brazilian friend has a maid. Is he a Nazi? He voted for that socialist president they have now
I would argue that “not all Jews” think so. Americans tend to wrongly assume that the entire Jewish community is a monolith. It is not. I would encourage anyone to read more Israeli media to get a broader perspective on how complex and diverse the Israeli Jewish community is never mind the broader Jewish community. There are several Israeli media outlets that are waaaaay more critical of the Israeli government that any US media, which I find incredibly problematic.

As to your example of having servants, I think you’re engaging in a false equivalency. If Brazil had a clear cut history of being an apartheid state and your friend was from the dominate ethnic ruling class of that state and his servants were from the lower ethnic classes the two would be directly comparable in my opinion. That is not the case.

As an aside having servants is fucking gross and one of the most antithetical things I can think of in relation to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

As to Musk, he walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and was raised by ducks. I’m not saying he is a “Nazi” in a pedantic sense but it sure seems like he’s promoting thinking and rhetoric that closely aligns with most of the white supremacist ideas and ideologies that I have been exposed to over the years.
 
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Bluto

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The biggest problem with politics in this county is that neither side holds their elected officials accountable for anything. As long as they're "owning" the other side, all is good. This 3rd term shit is circumventing the Constitution and the Republic and his followers will talk themselves into it. The Executive power grab has been going on for decades and both sides are guilty and will ultimately end in someone taking over and just becoming the President for life. Never thought I'd actually think that but it's trending to be inevitable. Congress is spineless.
Mmmm…the biggest problem in my opinion is that both sides have enabled an obscene amount of power to be exerted on the electoral process by rich assholes. The GOP with Citizens United and “money” equals speech stupidity and the Dems with “the good billionaires” stupidity.
 

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“we said a million bajillion people were going to die because of this, how could you be happy?!?”
 

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"Why are we focusing so much on how the terrorist rape gang abducted and brutally murdered their children! They had no other choice to do so, it's really Israel's fault" is the type of bullshit that guy espouses.
 

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"Why are we focusing so much on how the terrorist rape gang abducted and brutally murdered their children! They had no other choice to do so, it's really Israel's fault" is the type of bullshit that guy espouses.
You can literally say that about the Israeli government actions with Palestinian kids.
 

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Mmmm…the biggest problem in my opinion is that both sides have enabled an obscene amount of power to be exerted on the electoral process by rich assholes. The GOP with Citizens United and “money” equals speech stupidity and the Dems with “the good billionaires” stupidity.
Yeah, our system is essentially legal bribery. Nobody even hides it anymore. Just corruption sanctioned by the Supreme Court.
 
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