ND's upfront NIL has been producing results for the last two seasons. Very specifically with transfers, and with some HS recruits who care about it.I agree the NIL thing will take time, which I hope is by June to see tangible results.
Sure, but you specifically, continue to question me about things that have been confirmed numerous times.
ND's upfront NIL has been producing results for the last two seasons. Very specifically with transfers, and with some HS recruits who care about it.
This is something fans constantly do and immediately assume every recruit or every 5* is chasing money. Some are. Some aren't. Some recruits don't care about NIL at all. Some it's all they care about. Some are everywhere on that spectrum between the two extremes.
If ND loses a recruit it may or may not have to do with NIL. ND has one of the most robust NIL programs in CFB. They can bid with anyone but they also aren't unlimited there is a "salary cap" and they need to budget. Every program does. If ND starts over[aying in NIL at one position it hurts another.
IMO, based on players ND has lost at WR, it has less to do with NIL and more to do with recent success of WRs, QB's, system, and WR Coaching recruiting ability. No one was really bemoaning Stuckey's recruiting ability, and that was 15 months ago. Did ND all of a sudden stop offering up front NIL when they hired Brown? Of course not. There are other things at play here and it's dependent on the player.
A recent 5* player(by ND's grading) didn't even take a meeting on expanded NIL because he and his family didn't care about it at all. The base level FUND stuff was good enough and they'd figure out the rest when they hit campus.
Not sure why you are so stuck on the "June" thing either. NIL, when the player cares about it, is covered constantly. The more formal presentations will happen during OV's, not even necessarily in June during Irish Invasion camps/visit weekends...but those OV presos are simply more formal presentations of information that is covered from the moment ND starts recruiting a player.
Define that?..bc with respect..the "scope" you are narrowing it to (June) doesn't really make a ton of sense.so was curious narrowing that scope
You’ve continue to ask me questions about NIL, which I’ve already answered. You also keep saying that I’ve been saying for some time that NIL for high would kick in/be more aggressive.
Since I originally made those statements, Loy, Brice, O’Malley, Prister, Singer, and more, have all confirmed that’s the case.
So, you come off as if you’re questioning what I’m saying, and that I’m inaccurate.
Also, I’ve yet to share anything factual that hasn’t been true; so, no, I haven’t been wrong.
When I was asked to speculate on the chances of a transfer qb, I gave the likelihood at the time.
When I was asked if Blanchard was coming, I confirmed it because he’d directly agreed in principle to a contract.
When asked to provide names considered for different jobs in the program, I have, and all the names were accurate.
So, I don’t appreciate being called out as being “wrong” when I haven’t been.
If you haven’t intended to come off that way, that’s fine, but that’s certainly the way you’ve come off numerous times.
I don’t expect anyone to kiss my ass, but at this point, if my track record hasn’t shown I’m accurate, I’m not sure what I can offer you.
BUT JOHN BRICE SAID IT WAS ONLY $8 MILLION!Notre Dame was well over $15 million.
I'm convinced he was told by the university to use it..why..I don't know..or he's just confusing it with the portal number....I’m still confused where he got that number, especially considering he has decent sources.
Considering we've also been told the recruiting dept was assisting last year and is heavily involved with assisting this year I'd say being a skilled recruiter might not matter as much as we think or the whole dept isn't skilled.Gentlemen your response about Brown not being a skilled recruiter has me wondering...... What is important in your opinion to be a "skilled" recruiter and what is it that's holding him back?
Dale, if you ruin this for us I swear to god...
You will reach Koon levels of infamy round here
We writing prescriptions drugs or what?Brown is the type of man who takes time to get to know. He doesn’t come across impressively, immediately. He’s not the type of person to own the room; or, have people gravitating toward him.
Unfortunately, all of the above often doesn’t translate well with teenagers - especially teenagers who’ve often had their asses kissed for several years.
Skilled recruiter:
- Needs to make an immediate impression.
- Needs to be able to build trust immediately.
- Needs to be in constant contact with recruits, but also needs to be able to time that constant contact properly. (Consistent, frequent communication, that continues to show interest, and builds trust, without sounding inauthentic, or allowing communication to drag on)
- The best recruiters will constantly create a sense of urgency.
- A quality recruiter always shows a recruit that he/she always has that recruits back, and he/she is willing to always make that recruit a priority.
- An excellent recruiter knows when to discuss football; when to discuss academics; when to shoot the shit; and, when to simply be a friend a recruit can tell anything to.
- Quality recruiters are part psychiatrists; part psychologists; part friend; part parent; part grandparent; and, occasionally, a babysitter.
- The best recruiters quickly create a picture of what a recruit’s potential fit is within the program, and why that fit is superior to the fit of any other program.
- At the same time, if the recruiter is a coach, that coach had better be able to quickly demonstrate to any recruit why his/her coaching style is best for that recruit, and superior to any other coach at any other program.
Of the above, Brown is skilled at no more than 40%.
We writing prescriptions drugs or what?
Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans is more South Bend appropriate lolMerck: please continue apace. IE is incapable, as a whole, to phrase responses in "pleasant" and collegial discussion-oriented ways.
I know it's hard (Lord knows I know) but just read your group responses and you'll know that all of this is appreciated.
I've also noticed that it's helpful to picture one's crazier critics in Bozo-The-Clown make-up. (occasionally works anyway.)
This is where I’m at we are a run heavy offense and expect our guys to block until we show we can throw a little more the WR recruiting may struggleConsidering we've also been told the recruiting dept was assisting last year and is heavily involved with assisting this year I'd say being a skilled recruiter might not matter as much as we think or the whole dept isn't skilled.
This has to do with on field product/system not being attractive to wr recruits.
To me, for many years, it’s felt like ND had been terrified of turnovers, especially interceptions. I get it, it’s the most important stats in wins and losses, but it feels like as a result we’re terrified of taking deep shots and having higher octane offenses that attract big time WRs.This is an accurate take.
Many of the highest end receivers simply don’t want to play in run heavy offenses, particularly ones where they’ll be expected to be very physical blockers.
It’s crucial for Notre Dame to open up the offense a bit more this year, to help attract high end receivers.
Does...whoever(s) would make this decision, provide leadership/mentorship training for coaches/staff?- A quality recruiter always shows a recruit that he/she always has that recruits back, and he/she is willing to always make that recruit a priority.
- An excellent recruiter knows when to discuss football; when to discuss academics; when to shoot the shit; and, when to simply be a friend a recruit can tell anything to.
- Quality recruiters are part psychiatrists; part psychologists; part friend; part parent; part grandparent; and, occasionally, a babysitter.
Thanks for all the great info Merck! You definitely have not come across sensitive or in a don’t question me manner. I found Dales post rude and out of line. He has treated Bua pretty shitty as well. He has always come across as a know it all with zero information (unless he was taking it from you on 247) that loves to tell people how wrong they are. And now that there are a couple insiders with actual information he is upset that nobody cares about his useless opinions anymore.

Thanks for all the great info Merck! You definitely have not come across sensitive or in a don’t question me manner. I found Dales post rude and out of line. He has treated Bua pretty shitty as well. He has always come across as a know it all with zero information (unless he was taking it from you on 247) that loves to tell people how wrong they are. And now that there are a couple insiders with actual information he is upset that nobody cares about his useless opinions anymore.
Thanks for all the great info Merck! You definitely have not come across sensitive or in a don’t question me manner. I found Dales post rude and out of line. He has treated Bua pretty shitty as well. He has always come across as a know it all with zero information (unless he was taking it from you on 247) that loves to tell people how wrong they are. And now that there are a couple insiders with actual information he is upset that nobody cares about his useless opinions anymore.
Yeah a bit harsh and honestly opinions definitely aren’t “useless”. For that statement, I apologize. I agree with many of dales opinions. But stand by that he does come across rude and tells people they are wrong often. I noticed him being instantly rude to bua and then now to merck in a thread dedicated to asking him questions because he is so knowledgeable about something we are all very passionate about.Dang! Tell me what you really think, lol!
I enjoy reading Dale and Bobby Mac. Two of my favor posters here. You're both more to me than just a couple dudes with recruiting tidbits. No need to feel threaten by the new members.
I'm hesitant to call out anyone because I bring absolutely nothing to this site, but anyone who disagrees with Merk and Bua should avoid this thread. The more the merrier and I don't care if the information isn't 100% accurate or at times, just speculation. That's what makes it fun!
Besides, I love my free info!
GO IRISH!
Yeah a bit harsh and honestly opinions definitely aren’t “useless”. For that statement, I apologize. I agree with many of dales opinions. But stand by that he does come across rude and tells people they are wrong often. I noticed him being instantly rude to bua and then now to merck in a thread dedicated to asking him questions because he is so knowledgeable about something we are all very passionate about.
I also want to acknowledge that I know I bring nothing to the board, hence my less than 70 posts ever. And I’ve been following the board since Aaron lynch days. So my opinion really matters zero and I am very aware dale is very active and well liked on here.