Trump Presidency Round 2

ulukinatme

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Lol. I'm glad you went to Tom Morello's wiki and just listed off how much you know about him. He thinks socialism would be better to handle climate change, oh no! Maybe those pesky climate change deniers that are prominent conservatives have better ideas on how to address it. Also, the absolute irony of you saying "militant groups taking territory by force" and then being upset that Morello doesn't want to tour in Israel as if they (the State, important detail there) haven't taken territory by force.

He stands on his beliefs and doesn't squirm to make a quick buck, which is way more than literally the wet dream specialist of MAGA folks like Gabbard.

Maybe Morello can have more songs about statutory rape like MAGA darling Kid Diddler Rock?
Geez, you didn't need to convince me that you put Big Bitch Morello up on a pedestal, I already knew you carried a torch for him.

Last I checked the US doesn't have a pollution problem, we're not a big offender of climate change. We're doing our part, we're below the threshold set by the Paris Accords. We're 161st out of 221 countries when it comes to air pollution. Talk to China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and India about that one, those are your problem children.

:laugh: Gabbard could probably kick Morello's pansy ass given her military background. Big bitch like him is passive, he gets others to do his fighting for him, or he just sues them like he did the federal government.
 

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Geez, you didn't need to convince me that you put Big Bitch Morello up on a pedestal, I already knew you carried a torch for him.

Last I checked the US doesn't have a pollution problem, we're not a big offender of climate change. We're doing our part, we're below the threshold set by the Paris Accords. We're 161st out of 221 countries when it comes to air pollution. Talk to China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and India about that one, those are your problem children.

:laugh: Gabbard could probably kick Morello's pansy ass given her military background. Big bitch like him is passive, he gets others to do his fighting for him, or he just sues them like he did the federal government.

Much rather carry a torch for someone who practices what they preach and not just because they're "on my team".

lol Tulsi's only question would be "how does this help me?" and "whats my kick?".
 

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Much rather carry a torch for someone who practices what they preach and not just because they're "on my team".

lol Tulsi's only question would be "how does this help me?" and "whats my kick?".

Yeah, the Big Bitch isn't a hypocrite or anything.







It's impossible to take someone like Morello serious when he finds irony in the fact that a fan of his did not become a disciple of his band. His logic seems to be that if you like his music, but don't subscribe to his shallow political ideology, you're a hypocrite - or perhaps just too stupid to get it.

It saddens me to see a band, whose creativity and edginess led them to such great success, now come across so empty and egotistical.

Tom, we get it. We've just chosen not to live it. Growing up out of our adolescent years and entering the real world made that pretty easy.

It would be nice of Morello took a minute to step back and recognize the real irony here. Rage Against the Machine's political message has largely been about challenging conformity, yet he is the ultimate conformist. Only a conformist interprets an opposing viewpoint as disloyalty.
 

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Morello writes:
But Rage's music affects people in different ways. Some tune out what the band stands for and concentrate on the moshing and throwing elbows in the pit. For others, Rage has changed their minds and their lives. Many activists around the world, including organizers of the global occupy movement, were radicalized by Rage Against the Machine and work tirelessly for a more humane and just planet. Perhaps Paul Ryan was moshing when he should have been listening.
Guys estimated wealth is between $30-$35 million. He didn't get that living in a socialist government.
 
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Yeah, the Big Bitch isn't a hypocrite or anything.








Oh brother, we're going to do the "vaccine mandates = Nazi" thing?

Also - please, I encourage you to read Marx. Morello is quite literally following "socialist" principles by having ownership over his means of production. Additionally, you're asking him to change the entire economic system of how the entertainment industry works? Play this out, do you hold "capitalistic supporters" to the same threshold, do you criticize people who use government subsidies? No? Ok.
 

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Oh brother, we're going to do the "vaccine mandates = Nazi" thing?

Also - please, I encourage you to read Marx. Morello is quite literally following "socialist" principles by having ownership over his means of production. Additionally, you're asking him to change the entire economic system of how the entertainment industry works? Play this out, do you hold "capitalistic supporters" to the same threshold, do you criticize people who use government subsidies? No? Ok.

They should change their name to Allies With the Machine. Big Bitch Morello enjoys being a hypocrite though, as outlined above.

I have criticized people who use government subsidies, specifically benefits. While there are some people that genuinely just need a hand up to get on their feet, there are far too many people that abuse the system because they're lazy. I've spoken about my own sister-in-law before. She and her husband have 4 kids, plus he has several others that he doesn't take care of from previous relationships. Neither of them do anything for work besides Door Dash, and very little at that. They're both capable of work, they're just lazy and like to smoke a lot of weed. Their freezer is overflowing with food they've bought on EBT, and she'll take her friends food shopping with said EBT and they'll pay her cash for the food at a discount. Obviously not legal, but they're not the only ones that do it. She learned the practice from someone else, and they passed it down from other deadbeats. The benefits system is bloated and abused, it needs revamped with better supervision.
 

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They should change their name to Allies With the Machine. Big Bitch Morello enjoys being a hypocrite though, as outlined above.

I have criticized people who use government subsidies, specifically benefits. While there are some people that genuinely just need a hand up to get on their feet, there are far too many people that abuse the system because they're lazy. I've spoken about my own sister-in-law before. She and her husband have 4 kids, plus he has several others that he doesn't take care of from previous relationships. Neither of them do anything for work besides Door Dash, and very little at that. They're both capable of work, they're just lazy and like to smoke a lot of weed. Their freezer is overflowing with food they've bought on EBT, and she'll take her friends food shopping with said EBT and they'll pay her cash for the food at a discount. Obviously not legal, but they're not the only ones that do it. She learned the practice from someone else, and they passed it down from other deadbeats. The benefits system is bloated and abused, it needs revamped with better supervision.

lol are they Nazi's or with the Machine? Which one is it, because it's really tough to keep up! On one hand their super dangerous commies and the other they're Nazi's and with the Machine!

Ok sweet story, but you missed the point - completely. I'm speaking about people who pride themselves as "big capitalists" who take government subsidies. Maybe your SIL is a huge MAGA person, idk, but my point is you carry so much smoke for Morello but where's your outrage for "big capitalists" who take government subsidies? You don't have any, because that would just be "they're using the system" but when some musician does it well they're hypocrites!!!! L O L
 

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I don't really give a damn about your deflection. You were all giddy about how Morello doesn't back down from his principles, when he's in fact just as much of a hypocrite as every other celebrity. He'll always be a bitch, he can even fuck up a guitar solo.

 

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I don't really give a damn about your deflection. You were all giddy about how Morello doesn't back down from his principles, when he's in fact just as much of a hypocrite as every other celebrity. He'll always be a bitch, he can even fuck up a guitar solo.


Lmao tell me again that you don't understand socialism without telling me. Him having ownership of his means of production is a core principle. Now, why don't you just admit you don't hold "capitalist" supporters to the same standard and we can move on. Let's leave out little anecdotes about Shirleen abusing food stamps, and get into the meat of it and see that you only hold people you don't like to this arbitrary standard.
 

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Lmao tell me again that you don't understand socialism without telling me. Him having ownership of his means of production is a core principle. Now, why don't you just admit you don't hold "capitalist" supporters to the same standard and we can move on. Let's leave out little anecdotes about Shirleen abusing food stamps, and get into the meat of it and see that you only hold people you don't like to this arbitrary standard.

Deflect, deflect, deflect. I don't care about other hypocrites, I'm specifically calling out the one you've put on a pedestal. He's no different than them, he might be worse because he's extra preachy which makes him more of a hypocrite.
 

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Deflect, deflect, deflect. I don't care about other hypocrites, I'm specifically calling out the one you've put on a pedestal. He's no different than them, he might be worse because he's extra preachy which makes him more of a hypocrite.
It's not deflecting when I'm literally telling you that you're wrong and have no clue how socialism works.

The fact he donates his money and time towards causes he cares about and believes in makes him way more authentic than most entertainment people. You're criticism of him is that he makes money off his work? What? Is he supposed to just work for free? lol.

The other details like you calling him a Nazi are just ancillary lmao.
 

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If you thought the Biden's voted for Harris, you might want to think again.



 

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It's not deflecting when I'm literally telling you that you're wrong and have no clue how socialism works.

The fact he donates his money and time towards causes he cares about and believes in makes him way more authentic than most entertainment people. You're criticism of him is that he makes money off his work? What? Is he supposed to just work for free? lol.

The other details like you calling him a Nazi are just ancillary lmao.

Nah, it's clear deflection. We were talking about the Big Bitch, and you started pulling a "Whatabout" and pointing at other examples of celebs doing the same. We're not talking about other celebrities, although they're just as bad. We were discussing Morello's hypocrisy because you were all choked up how he stands on his principles when in reality he picks and chooses when he does so.

Wait, so now he's a saint because he donates money to causes? What celebrity doesn't donate regularly? You should know better than anyone that if celebrities hoarded their income it would only end up in Uncle Sam's hands, better to donate to charities and spread some goodwill and publicity.

Where did I call him a Nazi? I didn't. Some other celebrity in the industry did after Morello made similar remarks. That wasn't really the point of the Tweet though. All the links provided in that reply were examples of his hypocrisy.
 

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I dunno what happened to the first tweet but it seems like this is extremely unpopular on all sides.

 

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This guy studied naked kids and got pardoned by Biden. Wonder how popular this is?
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I dunno what happened to the first tweet but it seems like this is extremely unpopular on all sides.


I get what Trump is saying, but I'd like to see a study to see what the true bottom line would be. I have to believe that some automation would be beneficial. There's a middle ground there, but I don't see them getting there.
 

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I'm honestly a bit surprised all charges were dropped. Given the location I thought he'd at least get a manslaughter charge. It's good to see that justice prevailed. It was a little sick to see Neely's family trying to capitalize on the trial. If they really cared about him at all they wouldn't have let him rot on the street and fall into mental illness and drugs.
 

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I'm honestly a bit surprised all charges were dropped. Given the location I thought he'd at least get a manslaughter charge. It's good to see that justice prevailed. It was a little sick to see Neely's family trying to capitalize on the trial. If they really cared about him at all they wouldn't have let him rot on the street and fall into mental illness and drugs.
Didn’t read any articles analyzing the verdicts, but it seems odd that they couldn’t come to any agreement on the more serious murder charge the day before.

Somehow they were in agreement on the manslaughter charge. Doesn’t make any sense.
 

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Glad he was acquitted. Need more like him. Did they charge the guy that helped him? Was sorry to see BLM trying to instigate a riot.

All these videos of women being hit, slapped, grabbed on the subway and nyc men just standing there doing nothing. 😑

New Yorkers will try to tell you how tough they are. Nah, the men are completely pacified.
 
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