Just dont get CFB rankings

[IRISHDODGER]

This crew is so good at what they do.

 

[mrmcgrail]

Everyone who keeps saying Georgia is one of the 4 best teams, why are you saying that? Who have they played where they have proven that? The close games at gt and sc? Is that when they proved it?

 

[NDRock]

September game, doesn’t count.

 

[Kingbish01]

Everyone who keeps saying Georgia is one of the 4 best teams, why are you saying that? Who have they played where they have proven that? The close games at gt and sc? Is that when they proved it?

Everyone keeps talking about UGA vs Tech like it wasn't 31-13 going into the 4th and UGA took the foot off the gas and got ready for SECCG. SC game, down 11 at the half and I think SC got 1 first down in the second half and were completely dominated. The 4 game run they had between UF, Mizzu (top ten), Ole Miss (#11) and UT (#17 at the time) in dominating fashion speaks for itself. Maybe you're trolling, but 99.99999999% of fans who aren't haters (or idiots) would agree that UGA is a top 4 team. All this doesn't even factor in the 41-2 run they were on....SMH... Not to mention they only lost to Bama by 3 after gifting them 10 points....But... Ya, UGA isn't one of the best four teams in College Football.

Maybe this is a better question for Michigan

 

[mrmcgrail]

You mean the Mizzou team that needed like a 60 yard field goal to beat Kansas st or Tennessee who got the shit kicked out of them by Florida? Georgia didn't play anyone you can say ole miss all you want their ranking is bullshit. Bama and Georgia combined played one team out of conference worth anything and lost by ten at home so because a team was great for 2 years means they still are because of what? Because you say so

 

[mrmcgrail]

And when it comes to Michigan yeah their schedule is shit but they won all their games they beat Penn State they beat OSU they don't have a loss for people to compare them to other teams

 

[NDRock]

And when it comes to Michigan yeah their schedule is shit but they won all their games they beat Penn State they beat OSU they don't have a loss for people to compare them to other teams

That and the pesky charges and mounds of evidence that their HC committed recruiting violations (suspended 3 games) and the staff had an extensive sign stealing program (suspended 3 games) going on. Luckily their QB stayed healthy. Still can't believe they are ranked #1. Unreal.

 

[mrmcgrail]

Or are we talking about when Georgia was up 1 going into halftime against gt

 

[GATTACA!]

Nope, this is not an Alabama board. We don't have to accept your arguments, or even you.

 

[forkbeard3777]

September game, doesn’t count.

I'm certainly not implying we were going to win, but we left a lot of points off the board in that first half.

But, man...Florida State thoroughly kicked our ass in that second half. Further, they were so much more aggressive and physical than us that entire game. That was the premier game of the week - a top 5 or top 10 matchup if I recall and they f**king showed up and showed out.

 

[IrishinSyria]

You mean the Mizzou team that needed like a 60 yard field goal to beat Kansas st or Tennessee who got the shit kicked out of them by Florida? Georgia didn't play anyone you can say ole miss all you want their ranking is bullshit. Bama and Georgia combined played one team out of conference worth anything and lost by ten at home so because a team was great for 2 years means they still are because of what? Because you say so

Exactly. Any claim the SEC has to strength of schedule this year is entirely predicated on the SEC preseason circle jerk. Not a single SEC team (a) scheduled a hard game out of conference and (b) won it.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Also, just as a matter of first principles, trying to select the "best" four teams at the time of selection is on its face a horseshit concept.

 

[tussin]

It really shouldn't matter who the "best" teams are. I hate the term and the CFP Committee should have never said that's how they will judge who gets in.

The only way to do this is to look at the in-season resumes and judge who is most deserving based on the results on the field. Who would be favored by Vegas in a neutral site game is entirely irrelevant and that's why a ton of people are ticked about this decision.

In the eyes of the CFP Committee, "best" equates to most talented teams in the SEC/B1G. And they may be right if you play the season 100 times. But real life isn't an NCAA16 sim and that's an incredibly shitty way to decide who gets to play for a national championship.

 

[GATTACA!]

It really shouldn't matter who the "best" teams are. I hate the term and the CFP Committee should have never said that's how they will judge who gets in.

The only way to do this is to look at the in-season resumes and judge who is most deserving based on the results on the field. Who would be favored by Vegas in a neutral site game is entirely irrelevant and that's why a ton of people are ticked about this decision.

In the eyes of the CFP Committee, "best" equates to most talented teams in the SEC/B1G. And they may be right if you play the season 100 times. But real life isn't an NCAA16 sim and that's an incredibly shitty way to decide who gets to play for a national championship.

If Jordan Travis wasn't hurt FSU would be in. This decision had nothing to do with conference bias.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Isn't this how college works in general? Are all 4.0 GPA's created equal? are all high school educations looked at the same? Every college admission's department use their 'opinion' on who gets in and who doesn't. This isn't a Playoff committee problem, its a life problem. Sometimes your best just isn't good enough and it sucks. But, it is what it is.

 

[Irish#1]

You mean the Mizzou team that needed like a 60 yard field goal to beat Kansas st or Tennessee who got the shit kicked out of them by Florida? Georgia didn't play anyone you can say ole miss all you want their ranking is bullshit. Bama and Georgia combined played one team out of conference worth anything and lost by ten at home so because a team was great for 2 years means they still are because of what? Because you say so

You can play those comparisons, but if you do, also show the rest of the body of work. Besides, teams are up and down all through the season. Do we penalize teams that have a lackluster first half, but a strong second half?

 

[tussin]

Isn't this how college works in general? Are all 4.0 GPA's created equal? are all high school educations looked at the same? Every college admission's department use their 'opinion' on who gets in and who doesn't. This isn't a Playoff committee problem, its a life problem. Sometimes your best just isn't good enough and it sucks. But, it is what it is.

What a stupid argument. This isn't college admissions and if it was Jordan Travis would write a killer essay about breaking his leg and FSU would be the #1 seed.

Name me another sport in the world, past or present, where a major team from a top division can go undefeated and be told that they aren't even deserving enough to compete for a championship. It's absurd.

 

[domerfreak]

If Jordan Travis wasn't hurt FSU would be in. This decision had nothing to do with conference bias.

Sure it did. Meatchicken hasnt had a qb all year but they got in.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Exactly. Any claim the SEC has to strength of schedule this year is entirely predicated on the SEC preseason circle jerk. Not a single SEC team (a) scheduled a hard game out of conference and (b) won it.

You know, that's actually a very good point. Other than the three games below*, off the top of my head, the SEC schools all lost their big games against non-conference opponents (LSU-FSU; Alabama-Texas; A&M-Miami, South Carolina-North Carolina; Florida-Utah; Arkansas-BYU, etc...)

- Kentucky beat Louisville (Obviously, an annual rivalry, and Louisville/Brohm exceeded expectations this year)
- Ole Miss beat Tulane (11-2 this year; coming into the season as Cotton Bowl Champs; That said, Ole Miss should win this game 8/10 times)
- Miss. State beat Arizona (Arizona really came out of nowhere and had a great season)

* - Despite having good to great seasons, none of the opponents are notably impressive, at least historically. Additionally, these SEC teams that won are a far cry from the bigger, more prestigious SEC programs (Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Florida, etc.)

 

[slick7410]

I think the worst part of the whole thing is the PAC-Dissolved is going totally unquestioned.

Last 10 Titles ; 6 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 BIG 10

Everyone thought (knew) the Pac-12 sucked for years ;

• They have zero notable non-conference wins (5-7 Florida (UTAH), 6-6 Tx Tech (Oregon), 7-5 Wisconsin (Wash. St.), Or Washington's best Boise St.).
• All these top 25 wins are just fabricated on where this committee put them.
• Washington almost lost to Stanford.
• Hype was Prime and Caleb Williams; then they forgot to cancel it. Bo Nix is still meh. Penix is cool but he's basically just Gardner Minshew with Leach and a better WR.

I predict they get curb-stomped by Texas.

 

[mrmcgrail]

They beat gt by a score that isn't saying they had one bad half. Georgia this year had no one on the schedule it was nuts. You can't say they are one of the 4 best teams when they played one high caliber team in Alabama who also played one high caliber team and lost. So because you want to prop up ole miss who isn't good who beat tulane with their back up quarterback be my guest.

 

[BeauBenken]

Interesting post made on r/cfb:

SOR is a far more meaningful metric than SOS, because the worst team in the nation can be ranked #1 in SOS, but that's not the case for SOR. SOR was created to measure resume. FSU's resume, by ESPN's own metrics, edged out Alabama's resume even after Alabama beat Georgia. Speaking for myself, I checked this exact page Sunday morning and it was there. I went back after they announced the pairings and it was gone. ESPN's SOR metrics went offline Sunday morning around the time the CFP Selection Show started...

Since then the SOR is back up on the ESPN site. Poster on r/cfb said it was down for about 24 hours. FSU still has the #3 SOR compared to Alabama's #4.

 

[irish4ever]

This is why the majority of the country does not like Alabama.

True, but I will be rooting for those PRICKS against the Cheatin' Fuckin' Meastchickens! Then in the final, Hook 'em Horns!

 

[NDdomer2]

Interesting post made on r/cfb:



Since then the SOR is back up on the ESPN site. Poster on r/cfb said it was down for about 24 hours. FSU still has the #3 SOR compared to Alabama's #4.

they were using this stat in the graphic during the announcement show so its not like they were hiding it completely

 

[AllTimeIrish]

True, but I will be rooting for those PRICKS against the Cheatin' Fuckin' Meastchickens! Then in the final, Hook 'em Horns!

Ok I am down with that, but just this once.

 

[INLaw]

I love the bamaers but would be a good few days for bishop and ttown to sit out this thread. And just wait for the playoff game when everyone one of us will suddenly be loving bama like the second coming praying they beat the cheating skunks 🦨

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Isn't this how college works in general? Are all 4.0 GPA's created equal? are all high school educations looked at the same? Every college admission's department use their 'opinion' on who gets in and who doesn't. This isn't a Playoff committee problem, its a life problem. Sometimes your best just isn't good enough and it sucks. But, it is what it is.

You just have to work harder and overcome adversity. Like if you play 13 games and win them all, you probably should have figured out how to do better than someone who played 13 and won 12. I mean, what the fuck, there comes a point where you just can't be entitled to what you think is an opportunity you deserve.

Reeeeeeeally look in the mirror, pull up your bootstraps and say "You know, we just could have done better than winning every game we played."

 

[BleedingGold]

So, a silly scenario, but if my team, the Trash Pandas, was 5-6 going into the last game of the season and Superman decided to walk on and we beat the undefeated team for the last decade 999-0. If I use the committee’s logic, we should be in cause as of the end of the season my Pandas are the best team in cfb?

 

[Kingbish01]

Bama wasn't 5-6

 

[BleedingGold]

Did I even mention Bama?