Just dont get CFB rankings

[tussin]

Beau, you're a good dude and have always been fair with me. I'm just going to leave this unanswered, other than suggest you give it a few days and read it again. If you still stand by what you wrote and want a reply, let me know and I'll try to give you a reasonable one.

LOL I read this and expected to see Beau wish death upon your family.

Get off your high horse and accept that Bama was given preferential treatment because they are “better”. When it comes to the SEC, the 247 team talent rankings matter more than the results on the field. This entire board saw Bama look like ass all year, a fun upset over Georgia isn’t changing that fact.

 

[BeauBenken]

 

[BeauBenken]

 

[HouseofPain]

Like it or not, my team and conference have earned that benefit of the doubt. Bama has won 6 of the past 15 NC's, is 9-4 in the playoffs, and is 6-2 against AP #1 teams during the Saban era. The SEC has won 14 of the past 20 NC's, including the past 4. You earn some benefit of the doubt with that.


The short answer is that FSU went 13-0 against air. It's a great record, but it has to be judged in context. Their SOS was 55th and with the loss of their star QB, their trajectory is definitely not up. OTOH, Bama went 12-1 with the #4 SOS, beat the #1 team in the country, and are clearly on an upwards trajectory.

When you barely and I mean barely beat a crapa$$ team like Auburn, you cant say you are great.
Truly a load of crap. While I think FSU losing its QB didnt make it the best team, if Bama lost their QB in the last quarter beating GA, would you be saying they were one of the top 4 teams?
Texas jailed sixed Bama by double digits and they get leapfrogged.
Seriously, CFB is SUCH a joke now. First the pros went to the absolute crapper now CFB is right with it.
Time to find another hobby boys.

 

[forkbeard3777]

All of this complaining, confusion over why Bama is in over FSU, the anger, the drama... all of it could have been avoided if the CFB Playoff Committee had just stated from the outset ten years ago that their goal was to select the four BEST teams, not the four most deserving. Oh, and told us that losing a key player to injury before the playoffs would be factored in too. Imagine if they'd just said that up front, repeated it every year since, and followed that mission statement over the years.

Just to be sure we all knew, they could've even had their executive director, Bill Hancock, remind us this past week that, "It is best. Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind, best teams." Dang, if they'd just done all that, we wouldn't have all this complaining and confusion. If only they'd told us that from the beginn... Oh. Wait. Nevermind.

Then why isn’t Georgia in over Washington?

 

[Reaper97]

Then why isn’t Georgia in over Washington?

Washington is one of the 4 best teams.
Dumb choice of team to prove your point.

 

[irishff1014]

Washington is one of the 4 best teams.
Dumb choice of team to prove your point.

No one in their right mind takes Washington over Georgia at Washington let alone at a neutral site.

 

[Reaper97]

No one in their right mind takes Washington over Georgia at Washington let alone at a neutral site.

No one took Washington over Oregon at a neutral site, they were +9.5 and won.
Nobody took Bama over UGA at a neutral site, and they won.

You aren’t doing well with your arguments today.

And none of that changed Washington is one of the four best teams, as I said.

 

[irishff1014]

No one took Washington over Oregon at a neutral site, they were +9.5 and won.
Nobody took Bama over UGA at a neutral site, and they won.

You aren’t doing well with your arguments today.

Oregon is not Georgia.

Georgia walks the dog on both those teams.

 

[Reaper97]

Oregon is not Georgia.

Georgia walks the dog on both those teams.

Just like they walked the dog on GT?

This UGA team isn’t the same as the last two years.

And none of that changes the fact that Bama is better then FSU.

I’m not discussing this with you anymore.

 

[forkbeard3777]

No one in their right mind takes Washington over Georgia at Washington let alone at a neutral site.

But hey, the Alabama fan (whose team got curb stomped against Texas, and looked “stellar” against USF, Arkansas, A&M, and Auburn) merely wants the 4 best teams in…

 

[CTIDANDREW]

But hey, the Alabama fan (whose team got curb stomped against Texas, and looked stellar against USF, Arkansas, A&M, and Auburn) merely wants the 4 best teams in…

They were winning going into the 4th quarter?

 

[forkbeard3777]

Washington is one of the 4 best teams.
Dumb choice of team to prove your point.

And I want Washington to win it all

 

[Reaper97]

But hey, the Alabama fan (whose team got curb stomped against Texas, and looked stellar against USF, Arkansas, A&M, and Auburn) merely wants the 4 best teams in…

Bama didn’t get “curb stomped” by Texas.

I’m not an Alabama fan, and I think they should be in over FSU.

Actually, I will go with your logic, Liberty is 12-0, they should be in over Texas & Bama.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Michigan over Texas is +360 on DraftKings for those who enjoy that type of thing...at least if Michigan is going to inevitably win the damn thing at least win some money while it happens.

 

[forkbeard3777]

They were winning going into the 4th quarter?

They lost by 10, at home.

 

[Reaper97]

And I want Washington to win it all

Washington had the best SOR.

And why don’t you take your LSU fandom and go to a LSU board?
Why are you even here?
I will pay your subscription to the LSU board if you need?

 

[Reaper97]

They were winning going into the 4th quarter?

Don’t let facts get in the way of idiots’ idiot arguments.

 

[IrishinSyria]

I promise I will be incredibly annoying to

I will cheering hard for Y'all.

Like it or not, my team and conference have earned that benefit of the doubt. Bama has won 6 of the past 15 NC's, is 9-4 in the playoffs, and is 6-2 against AP #1 teams during the Saban era. The SEC has won 14 of the past 20 NC's, including the past 4. You earn some benefit of the doubt with that.


The short answer is that FSU went 13-0 against air. It's a great record, but it has to be judged in context. Their SOS was 55th and with the loss of their star QB, their trajectory is definitely not up. OTOH, Bama went 12-1 with the #4 SOS, beat the #1 team in the country, and are clearly on an upwards trajectory.

Yeah but Bama hasn’t won any national
Championships in the NIL era when anyone can buy players

 

[Reaper97]

They lost by 10, at home.

You said, “curb stomp.”

That’s not curb stomp.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

They lost by 10, at home.

So every ten point home loss when leading after three quarters is a curb stomping?
Do you know what curb stomping is...lol

 

[NDRock]

No one took Washington over Oregon at a neutral site, they were +9.5 and won.
Nobody took Bama over UGA at a neutral site, and they won.

You aren’t doing well with your arguments today.

And none of that changed Washington is one of the four best teams, as I said.

You just listed two games where conventional wisdom and the eye test was wrong, yet go on to argue that FSU doesn’t belong. The fact that games consistently go against people’s eye test is why a 13-0 Power 5 team should not be left out. Results > Eye test. Luckily this is the last year of this nonsense.

 

[Blazers46]

Schedules are so watered down. Conferences are so unbalanced.

We just watched Iowa, Oklahoma State and Louisville play in their respective conference championship games to help determine a top 4. Gross.

Top teams SOS according to random website I googled
1. Michigan - 47
2. Washington - 32
3. Texas - 27
4. Alabama - 3
5. FSU - 50
6. Georgia - 43
This is gross.

 

[IrishinSyria]

I’ll ask you the same question since you believe (or agree) resume means nothing. If Bama’s WR had come down out of bounds last week at Auburn, would you still be advocating them to be ahead of FSU? Surely one play out of thousands in the season wouldn’t be the difference between them being better. So, would an 11-2 Bama deserve to be ahead of FSU? After all it’s about BEST teams not most deserving.

For that matter, Vegas would probably give Oregon better odds versus any of the other playoff teams than Washington. Who cares that Washington beat them twice, shouldn’t we be picking the best teams?

 

[Reaper97]

So every ten point home loss when leading after three quarters is a curb stomping?
Do you know what curb stomping is...lol

He obviously doesn’t.

I’m slowly losing faith in the amount of football knowledge here.

Nobody in their right mind thinks FSU is one of the best 4 teams. It’s just stupid.

 

[Reaper97]

You just listed two games where conventional wisdom and the eye test was wrong, yet go on to argue that FSU doesn’t belong. The fact that games consistently go against people’s eye test is why a 13-0 Power 5 team should not be left out. Results > Eye test. Luckily this is the last year of this nonsense.

Okay, look at FSU with & without Travis.

Then look me in the face & tell me FSU is top 4.

 

[Reaper97]

You guys have fun arguing this, I’m done.

I’m going to go do something more intelligent than arguing FSU is top 4, like sticking my dick in the blender.

Carry on.

 

[NDRock]

Okay, look at FSU with & without Travis.

Then look me in the face & tell me FSU is top 4.

Sure. It doesn’t appear they are but that’s not the point. Sports should be settled on the field. Can you honestly say that a fired up FSU, with an elite defense, an “us against the world” attitude, and a month to get their backup (not 3rd string) prepared , couldn’t beat Michigan? I absolutely believe they could beat them and they’re supposedly the #1 team in the country. They earned the chance.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

He obviously doesn’t.

I’m slowly losing faith in the amount of football knowledge here.

Nobody in their right mind thinks FSU is one of the best 4 teams. It’s just stupid.

I have a lot of respect for BCF Toys.
He currently has F$U 8th after this weekends games. (BCF Toys - 2023 F+ Ratings)
I'm not 100% sure if he incorporates injuries into his formula, but I tend to think he doesn't because that would be difficult to quantify.
Regardless, I have not seen one independent power ranking website that uses a "formula" have 13-0 F$U in their final top four.
I'm not saying that should be the be all end all, but I think it's fair to say that it is very telling.

 

[NDRock]

Bishop is a long-time solid contributor who has earned respect for his even-handed analysis. And his good grammar.

Yet today he is all out-of-sorts.

Cognitive dissonance?

(or a secrect Tommy fan?)

ps - love thee b25

Sorry, it’s not about which posters are the most deserving or have earned it, it’s about who are the best posters right now. You can’t seriously believe he’s a top 4 poster. Maybe before his carpel tunnel injury but not now.