'24 CA LB Kyngstonn Viliamu-Asa (Notre Dame Signee)

[rtrn2glory]

I agree that it has to be best to have the last visit. Kids are so impressionable and the last impression is all the remember it seems sometimes

 

[Reaper97]

Quick note.

IB talked to sources & was told this is a ND/USC battle.
ND isn’t as confident as they were last week.
KVA is getting pushed hard to stay home & play at USC by his friends, teammates & coaches.
His parents are pro ND.
He is really torn.
Hasn’t made a decision yet.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Quick note.

IB talked to sources & was told this is a ND/USC battle.
ND isn’t as confident as they were last week.
KVA is getting pushed hard to stay home & play at USC by his friends, teammates & coaches.
His parents are pro ND.
He is really torn.
Hasn’t made a decision yet.

And when I said last week he most likely goes to USC I was told they aren’t even an option check his social media it’s all USC

 

[Reaper97]

And when I said last week he most likely goes to USC I was told they aren’t even an option check his social media it’s all USC

That had nothing to do with it.
Coming out of his ND visit he had ND #1 (which was after his USC visit).
But the past few days his pro-USC camp has been hammering him about not going to ND & staying home.

 

[Irishdrunk]

That had nothing to do with it.
Coming out of his ND visit he had ND #1 (which was after his USC visit).
But the past few days his pro-USC camp has been hammering him about not going to ND & staying home.

This will always be another factor against ND landing elite classes. Recruiting nationally is very tough.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Manti needs to get him on the phone

 

[T-Boone]

Quick note.

IB talked to sources & was told this is a ND/USC battle.
ND isn’t as confident as they were last week.
KVA is getting pushed hard to stay home & play at USC by his friends, teammates & coaches.
His parents are pro ND.
He is really torn.
Hasn’t made a decision yet.

Starting to sound like that RB from Clemson.

 

[NDWarrior]

FOUR-STAR 2024 LINEBACKER KYNGSTONN VILIAMU-ASA CALLS POTENTIALLY PLAYING FOR OHIO STATE THE “OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME” AS HE INCHES CLOSER TO A DECISION. Laurinaitis and J.T. Tuimoloau -- He gone!

 

[irishandy]

Beat OSU & USC this year! I think this year's USC game will be similar to the 2017 USC game.

Didn't KVA take his family on his ND visit & I thought mom was impressed??

Get Manti and Jaylon on the phone & MF needs to take this recruitment over.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Beat OSU & USC this year! I think this year's USC game will be similar to the 2017 USC game.

Didn't KVA take his family on his ND visit & I thought mom was impressed??

Get Manti and Jaylon on the phone & MF needs to take this recruitment over.

Nah, get Amir Carlisle in the phone. Went to USC over ND, then transferred to ND. I believe he now works at ND also.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Ahhh the kiss of death. Thanks for having me, but no thanks.

 

[Lberry]

Not sure I like the timing of this notion. Seems like a final gesture, if not, why not use this as part of your announcement.

Feels like the old "gave me something to think about".

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Not sure I like the timing of this notion. Seems like a final gesture, if not, why not use this as part of your announcement.

Feels like the old "gave me something to think about".

With that being said:....

 

[irish2104]

ISD had a message today that no school really knows what he is going to do according to an solid source.. twiw

 

[Luckylucci]

There are a few recruitments that could benefit from winning on the field. This would be one. I think if Freeman and company can prove we are playing equal football to the OSU, Clemson, and USC's of the world. Then we might be able to shake things up towards the end of the cycle.

 

[rtrn2glory]

🤣 that tweet couldn't be less convincing to me

 

[IAIrish]

There are a few recruitments that could benefit from winning on the field. This would be one. I think if Freeman and company can prove we are playing equal football to the OSU, Clemson, and USC's of the world. Then we might be able to shake things up towards the end of the cycle.

Truth. Winning rarely hurts when a prospect is torn.
Feels like a top 5. I know off the top, Manti and Tranquill were 2 lb'ers who were torn/nearly committed elsewhere.

 

[Terry Jillery]

It seems to me as I get older and wiser (maybe not so wise), that difficult choices have become a bit easier. To me, if you’re agonizing that much between local Lincoln Riley led USC and far away Notre Dame, then the silver lining lies within the indecision to stay home. Unbiased, 10 out of 10 times, that means you should take the chance your heart won’t let go of and go to the away school. Maybe I’m a biased fool.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

There are a few recruitments that could benefit from winning on the field. This would be one. I think if Freeman and company can prove we are playing equal football to the OSU, Clemson, and USC's of the world. Then we might be able to shake things up towards the end of the cycle.

I disagree regarding KVA's recruitment. This seems to be boiling down to leaving home against peer pressure. Besides, USC needed a Heisman QB to not go 7-5. Riley may turn it around, but currently, they aren't good. They don't deserve to be in the list of OSU and Clemsons of the world.

It seems to me as I get older and wiser (maybe not so wise), that difficult choices have become a bit easier. To me, if you’re agonizing that much between local Lincoln Riley led USC and far away Notre Dame, then the silver lining lies within the indecision to stay home. Unbiased, 10 out of 10 times, that means you should take the chance your heart won’t let go of and go to the away school. Maybe I’m a biased fool.

I agree. I think this is a situation where the kid and his family are thinking ND may be the best choice, but USC is the easy choice.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

I disagree regarding KVA's recruitment. This seems to be boiling down to leaving home against peer pressure. Besides, USC needed a Heisman QB to not go 7-5. Riley may turn it around, but currently, they aren't good. They don't deserve to be in the list of OSU and Clemsons of the world.



I agree. I think this is a situation where the kid and his family are thinking ND may be the best choice, but USC is the easy choice.

Choose Hard

 

[irishandy]

There are a few recruitments that could benefit from winning on the field. This would be one. I think if Freeman and company can prove we are playing equal football to the OSU, Clemson, and USC's of the world. Then we might be able to shake things up towards the end of the cycle.

Lucky- I agree with your statement. The board seems to have more posters that think this recruitment is over. I don't think this one is over, I don't think he has made up his mind. The wildcard here to me is how does Freeman close on this, he landed Sneed when he was ND's DC and Freeman will recruit his butt off on KVA's recruitment. Clemson is going to be out for revenge vs. ND, ND needs to be out for revenge vs. OSU & USC.

 

[Luckylucci]

I disagree regarding KVA's recruitment. This seems to be boiling down to leaving home against peer pressure. Besides, USC needed a Heisman QB to not go 7-5. Riley may turn it around, but currently, they aren't good. They don't deserve to be in the list of OSU and Clemsons of the world.



I agree. I think this is a situation where the kid and his family are thinking ND may be the best choice, but USC is the easy choice.

First of all, what if he chooses OSU over ND? He'll be leaving home against that peer pressure but not to ND. In order for ND to continue to land more guys out of regions like the West, South, etc, that can survive at ND, they have to win more big games. Virtually unanimous that USC is considered a big game for next season.

Whether or not a handful of ND football fans think USC is as good as those teams is completely irrelevant. Most of the college football world does. Likely most HS kids that play football in Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and California do. Likely KVA's HS teammates, his coaches, etc.

They're a pre-season top 5 team, return the Heisman winner, have a very high profile coaching staff, and are our biggest rival. This is a big fucking deal.

It's also a team that just walloped the piss out of us last year while finishing 10 spots above us in FEI rankings and 20 spots above us in S&P+. Beating USC was taken for granted near the end of Kelly's tenure. It's going to be a huge game annually from here on out.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

First of all, what if he chooses OSU over ND? He'll be leaving home against that peer pressure but not to ND. In order for ND to continue to land more guys out of regions like the West, South, etc, that can survive at ND, they have to win more big games. Virtually unanimous that USC is considered a big game for next season.

Whether or not a handful of ND football fans think USC is as good as those teams is completely irrelevant. Most of the college football world does. Likely most HS kids that play football in Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and California do. Likely KVA's HS teammates, his coaches, etc.

They're a pre-season top 5 team, return the Heisman winner, have a very high profile coaching staff, and are our biggest rival. This is a big fucking deal.

It's also a team that just walloped the piss out of us last year while finishing 10 spots above us in FEI rankings and 20 spots above us in S&P+. Beating USC was taken for granted near the end of Kelly's tenure. It's going to be a huge game annually from here on out.

I was responding to the recent posts that have suggested this is coming down to ND vs USC, so that's why I left OSU completely out of my post.

It took a night, home game with a Heisman-like effort from the Heisman trophy winner, tons of injuries to ND's secondary, ND's DC completely shitting the bed for that game, and ND having the worst QB ever for USC to win that game by 11 points. Hardly "walloping the piss out of us."

I'll concede and agree with you that USC should be good this coming year...because of their QB. But most of the college football world does not feel that USC belongs anywhere near the tier that OSU and Clemson recently. One year, with a Heisman QB, does not suddenly put you on par with those teams who have been elite year in and year out for a while now. Could USC become elite once again under Riley? Yes, they absolutely can. But I completely disagree that USC somehow belongs with OSU and Clemson just because of Caleb Williams and a pre-season Top 5 ranking. ND has far outperformed USC over the last decade and no one is putting ND on par with OSU and Clemson sooo...

Yes, rivalry games are big games regardless of how up or down the respective programs are. USC being good is good for ND and this rivalry. No question. And I agree winning was taken for granted under BK.....because they were a trash program! That's my point. Without Williams, ND would've won last year too.

Winning big games will always help with perception and recruiting. I'm not arguing that. I'm simply saying that with KVA, it doesn't seem that one game result is going to sway him. If it's truly ND vs USC, it's probably coming down to whether or not he wants to leave home against all the peer pressure and not because of the result on the field for a game this season.

 

[Luckylucci]

The worst way to make a point is to say well if it wasn’t for such and such, this or that, frick and frack, or smick and smack we would’ve won.

We were actually down by double digits almost the entire game. After 8 minutes into the game they were up 10-0. We only closed it to less than double digits for 4 minutes after that. Second half started 17-7, 24-7, 24-14, 31-14, 31-21, 38-21, 38-27. That is not a competitive game in the slightest. But, yes, if you excuse away every valid reason why they beat us I understand how you reach a different conclusion.

KVA and other big time recruits do not care about what happened in 2018. They care about now. They care about next year. They care about recruiting classes, swag, drip, and winning.

This is a huge game with, likely, national implications for rankings and recruits.

 

[CoachB]

I was responding to the recent posts that have suggested this is coming down to ND vs USC, so that's why I left OSU completely out of my post.

It took a night, home game with a Heisman-like effort from the Heisman trophy winner, tons of injuries to ND's secondary, ND's DC completely shitting the bed for that game, and ND having the worst QB ever for USC to win that game by 11 points. Hardly "walloping the piss out of us."

I'll concede and agree with you that USC should be good this coming year...because of their QB. But most of the college football world does not feel that USC belongs anywhere near the tier that OSU and Clemson recently. One year, with a Heisman QB, does not suddenly put you on par with those teams who have been elite year in and year out for a while now. Could USC become elite once again under Riley? Yes, they absolutely can. But I completely disagree that USC somehow belongs with OSU and Clemson just because of Caleb Williams and a pre-season Top 5 ranking. ND has far outperformed USC over the last decade and no one is putting ND on par with OSU and Clemson sooo...

Yes, rivalry games are big games regardless of how up or down the respective programs are. USC being good is good for ND and this rivalry. No question. And I agree winning was taken for granted under BK.....because they were a trash program! That's my point. Without Williams, ND would've won last year too.

Winning big games will always help with perception and recruiting. I'm not arguing that. I'm simply saying that with KVA, it doesn't seem that one game result is going to sway him. If it's truly ND vs USC, it's probably coming down to whether or not he wants to leave home against all the peer pressure and not because of the result on the field for a game this season.

I tend to agree with this.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The worst way to make a point is to say well if it wasn’t for such and such, this or that, frick and frack, or smick and smack we would’ve won.

We were actually down by double digits almost the entire game. After 8 minutes into the game they were up 10-0. We only closed it to less than double digits for 4 minutes after that. Second half started 17-7, 24-7, 24-14, 31-14, 31-21, 38-21, 38-27. That is not a competitive game in the slightest. But, yes, if you excuse away every valid reason why they beat us I understand how you reach a different conclusion.

KVA and other big time recruits do not care about what happened in 2018. They care about now. They care about next year. They care about recruiting classes, swag, drip, and winning.

This is a huge game with, likely, national implications for rankings and recruits.

I figured the best way to make a point was to support it with facts. I'm confused. Because the such and such, this and that, etc that I listed are all valid reasons for losing a game to a Heisman trophy QB lead team. Had Caleb not played and ND boat raced, everyone would be saying, "Well they didn't have Caleb." And that would be a valid reason. Same with Clemson w/o Trevor Lawrence (recall what happened when Trevor played...). Freeman flat out said that Golden changed his game plan for USC...it failed miserably. All of what I listed played into the result of that game. It's not like I'm sitting here talking about missed holding calls or whatever.

I'd actually ask you not generalize recruits. You're smart enough to know that not all of these kids are looking for the same things while making college choices. You're assuming, with that statement, that because KVA is a stud recruit that all he cares about is swag, etc. and he couldn't possibly be smart enough to see the benefits to choose ND for all the reasons we talk about relentlessly on this board. He couldn't possibly be focusing on the bigger picture instead worrying about one game.

This game will undoubtedly have playoff implications if both USC and ND play up to their potential this year. Totally agree. Also agree that it can sway SOME recruits. Not arguing that.

 

[Luckylucci]

My original post used words like “could” and “might”. No speaking in certainties of his position or character here. Someone like Rushing, winning likely doesn’t matter because the money never changes. Guys like KVA, Beasley, Shaw, Nelson, etc. Those are guys that have shown genuine interest in ND and big seasons can help that.

Winning big games matters to recruits. USC is a big game.

 

[Crazy Balki]

This is the infuriating vicious cycle ND is stuck in.

ND needs elite players to win big games, but ND needs to win big games to land elite players, but they need elite players to win big games, but they need to win big games too land elite players, etc.

 

[T-Boone]

I wonder if Freeman has focused more on offensive recruiting and left the D to those he trusts.