Latina's 8/9 Press Conference

[johnnd05]

[Dangit - mods, I tried to change the title of this thread to "ND Offensive Line", but I don't seem able to. Can someone do that for me?]

This is a place to post thoughts and information on the ND offensive line for the '08 season.

Here's some info from Latina's press conference yesterday:

Notes from John Latina’s Presser: 8/9

Offensive line and assistant head coach John Latina was available to speak with the media on Thursday instead of Charlie Weis and here are some highlights from what he had to say.

* On what you can take away from practices without pads along the offensive line. “How much carry over from the last time you coached them, which was spring practice. Not only just assignments, but footwork as an offensive lineman, technique, understanding the big picture. Are they growing, getting out of just knowing their little assignment. Growing as a player and learning the big picture.”
* On juniors Michael Turkovich and Paul Duncan. “I think they’ve gotten lot better from fall to spring, spring to where we are right now. There’s a great deal of confidence – they’ve done it over and over and over again.”
* On the depth the offensive line this year. “We have more capable bodies now than we’ve had since we’ve been here.”
* On graduate assistant Shane Waldron: “I think he has a bright, bright future ahead of him. He’s been with us going on his third year so just like players getting more and more confidence and learning what they have to do, you see him grow as a young football coach.”
* Chris Stewart is a little bit ahead of a new offensive lineman coming in, but not that much since he spent the spring on defense: “It’s almost starting over for him, and rightfully so and expected to be that. In the fall you have a freshman and a fall camp and if he doesn’t get in your two deep, he’s out on the show team so he’s really not getting much work with you. The first time he’s getting he gets a lot of work with you as a position coach is the spring and that particular person was on defense.”
* On junior Paul Duncan: “He’s a big, rangy, athletic kid.” Latina also said that last year Duncan was a bit light but is close to the 300 lb range now.
* Latina mentioned that there is a lot of one on one in practice in the run and pass games and that it helps developing a line because it puts them in a spotlight situation. “The defense knows it’s not going to be a screen, the defense knows it’s not going to be a draw. They’re playing 3rd and 15 every time they snap the ball in that environment.”
* Latina was asked about whether not he can ease up on installing the attitude they want in the offensive: “Offensive line is a huge attitude, it’s a huge toughness. Just when you start easing up or thinking you’re good enough you’ll go backwards in a hurry. That’s got to stay on our mind every single day.”
* On the importance of creating flexibility amongst the linemen: “The more you can ask of your players mentally, the better they’re going to be even when they settle into one position.”
* On the benefit of creating position flexibility within the offensive line: “It gives you two things as a coach: it allows you when an injury occurs to put in the next best player in. I think that’s important. If you just go by strictly positions, your 10th best player maybe the second right tackle. Why would you want to be the 10th best player in if the 6th best player can play that position as well. You get a chance to put in the best player in that you have left after your top five plus it really makes them grow and challenges them to learn the big picture instead of just their little world.”

 

[johnnd05]

And more:

Latina Looking to Create Flexibility along OLine - UHND.com

(UHND.com) – Offensive line coach John Latina spoke to the media on Thursday and one of the common themes throughout his talk was creating position flexibility. With greater depth than he’s had to work with since arriving at Notre Dame prior to the 2005 season, Latina is looking to put the best guys on the field while not pigeon holing players at certain positions.
When Latina arrived at Notre Dame as part of Charlie Weis’s first coaching staff, the Irish were short on depth along the offensive line. Two years later, however, that isn’t the case. “We have more capable bodies now than we’ve had since we’ve been here,” Latina told the media when asked about the depth situation this year.

The increased depth not only increases the level of competition throughout the offensive line, but it allows for Latina to create some flexibility amongst his players – something he has always believed in. “One of the things I’ve always done in my career, now going on 28, 29 years,” Latina started, “The more you can ask of your players mentally, the better they’re going to be even when they settle into one position.”

The benefit from having flexibility within the line is twofold according to Latina. “It allows you, when an injury occurs, to put in the next best player in.” He would stress the importance of this in terms of fielding the best line possible by stating, “If you just go by strictly positions, your 10th best player maybe the second right tackle. Why would you want to be the 10th best player in if the 6th best player can play that position as well.”

Aside from the ability to insert the next best player, the other added benefit of Latina’s philosophy is teaching the players how the entire line works together. “It really makes them grow and challenges them to learn the big picture instead of just their little world.”

The flexibility Latina prefers to create really was not possible the last two years when the Irish were so short on depth. This season, however, juniors like Michael Turkovich and Paul Duncan and young guys like Matt Carufel, Dan Wenger, and Eric Olsen are ready to compete for starting roles. Speaking specifically about Duncan and Turkovich, Latina said, “I think they’ve gotten a lot better from fall to spring, spring to where we are right now. “

Duncan, the most likely candidate to take over the vacated left tackle spot which opened up with the graduation of Ryan Harris, has also bulked up to the point where he is capable of handling the rigors of starting at the highly important left tackle position. Latina described Duncan as, “s a big, rangy, athletic kid.” The Georgia native is close to 300 pounds according to his coach after playing last year in the 270 pound range.

Despite the increase depth all across the line, experience is still a department the Irish come up short in. John Sullivan will be entering his fourth year as a starter and sophomore Sam Young started all 13 games in 2006, but after these two, there isn’t a single offensive lineman who has started a game on the college level. This level of inexperience poses another challenge to Latina – a challenge which he says is made easier through the extensive one on one pass rushing the Irish employed by the staff.

“The defense knows it’s not going to be a screen, the defense knows it’s not going to be a draw. They’re playing 3rd and 15 every time they snap the ball in that environment,” Latina told the media. This level of one on one competition puts the young offensive linemen in a spotlight position where there mistakes are magnified and there conquests glorified which in turn aides in their development.

The increased depth also does not mean that Latina and the staff can ease up on instilling the mentality it takes to excel in the trenches even to the few upperclassmen in the group. This challenge is something he and the other coaches tackle every day. “Offensive line is a huge attitude, it’s a huge toughness. Just when you start easing up or thinking you’re good enough you’ll go backwards in a hurry. That’s got to stay on our mind every single day.”

Latina has been hamstrung the past couple of years trying to hold together a rather thin offensive line with duct tape and bubblegum. This year, however, he’s got more depth and talent to work with than he’s ever had at Notre Dame which is allowing him to create the kind of flexibility amongst his linemen that he simply hasn’t had the last two years.

 

[johnnd05]

Video here (I think).

 

[johnnd05]

And while we're on the subject of the o-line, here's a nice article on Paul Duncan (link):

Duncan emerging from the pack

ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND -- They were afterthoughts, really -- a recruiting class that was perceived to be salvaged, not savored.

Not one five-star, top 100, wet-your-pants-over prospect in the bunch supposedly. Just 15 servings of roster-filler, unaffected by the stench of the Tyrone Willingham purge and all the drama that came with and followed it.

It seemed like a class that only then-new Notre Dame football coach Charlie Weis could fall in love with, and then only until he really got the recruiting machine rolling.

Yet as the Irish move closer to the completing their first week of fall practice, six members of that unpedigreed class are poised to be starters (offensive tackle Paul Duncan, offensive guard Mike Turkovich, nose tackle Pat Kuntz, fullback Asaph Schwapp, safety David Bruton, wide receiver David Grimes) and another three (quarterback Evan Sharpley, linebacker Scott Smith and wide receiver D.J. Hord) are in the running to be.

Perhaps none of that group is as intriguing or unknown as Paul Duncan. He's certainly one of the most pivotal.

Duncan is playing left offensive tackle, meaning if he doesn't do a good job, it probably doesn't matter who wins the quarterback derby, because options 2 and 3 will likely be forced into action due to injury, exhaustion or both. His No. 1 job is to protect the quarterback's blind side.

"He's a big rangy kid, and he's done a good job," Irish offensive line coach John Latina assessed of the 6-foot-7, 292-pound junior from Dallas, Ga. "Last year at some point, he was (too) light. He was probably in the 269-270 range. So now he's bigger and stronger, and we always knew he was athletic.

"Obviously there's more of a commitment on his part. That doesn't happen by accident. Obviously the (light) switch has come on."

And Latina makes sure it stays on. He doesn't want Duncan just to know all the nuances of his position. He wants him to know what the center and right guard do too.

"I want them to see the big picture," Latina said. "The more you can ask of your players mentally, the better they're going to be."

But he also demands of them physically. Latina carves out one-on-one time in practice every day, putting Duncan and his linemates in a passing drill in which the defense knows what's coming on every play and Duncan must still execute at a high level.

"That's as intense as it gets," Latina said.

Intensity didn't have to be taught to Duncan. He may be quiet, may be unassuming, but his motor has always been running. He and Turkovich both were able to work their way into some mop-up duty as true freshmen, a rarity for an offensive lineman.

And now he has a chance to be a star.

"I think three years of doing something makes you more confident," Duncan said.

But his confidence is tested every day. So is his toughness.

Even though the new wave of offensive linemen, including the more-celebrated Sam Youngs and Matt Carufels, seemed to come out of the box nasty rather than having to be taught, Latina hasn't moved his focus toward technique at the expense of attitude.

"Just when you start easing up or think you're good enough, you'll go backwards in a hurry," Latina said. "So that's got to stay on our mind every single day. In fact, in almost every meeting I'll point out a kid who gave great effort and I'll point out a play that wasn't that way. You've got to keep on it. You wish you could (back off), but it will bite you if you do."

 

[rdrdreamer]

Thanks for sharing this post. I for one am a big believer in that our offensive line will be better this year.

 

[Jason Pham]

Thanks for sharing this post. I for one am a big believer in that our offensive line will be better this year.

I second that notion. While we had talented men along on line last year with 2 picked up in the draft, there were inklings of disunity that made it difficult for an o line to meld and gel stemming from lingering questions during the coaching switch. However, the new guys are in and from the practice reports, this guys are getting along very well and and definitely gellin.

 

[johnnd05]

I second that notion. While we had talented men along on line last year with 2 picked up in the draft, there were inklings of disunity that made it difficult for an o line to meld and gel stemming from lingering questions during the coaching switch. However, the new guys are in and from the practice reports, this guys are getting along very well and and definitely gellin.

Gellin' like a felon? (Ask Helen.)

 

[Sureal]

Agreed, as stated in the post we are deeper in this area than what we were last year.
I'm thinking more of a ball control type offense this year. But who knows? With an innovator like Weis at the helm...

 

[Sir John]

Good read guys and Johnnd That's a funny banner at the bottom

 

[OCIrish]

Gellin' like a felon? (Ask Helen.)

Is that Helen McMellon?

 

[johnnd05]

I think I asked this before, but could the title of this thread be changed to "Offensive Line"?

Published: August 15, 2007 6:00 a.m.

Brother helps out Irish lineman

By Michael Rothstein
The Journal Gazette

SOUTH BEND – The fish jumped up onto their hooks, giving Dan Wenger and his brother, Rob, a moment of success and a feeling they were on top of everything before throwing the bass back.

The canals around Coral Springs and Parkland Isles, a lake about a 10-minute drive from their South Florida home, were places Dan, a sophomore offensive lineman at Notre Dame, and Rob, a former fullback and current volunteer assistant at Colgate, could go to escape. No football. No weights.

Just Gatorade, maybe a pizza and fish.

“We like to go fishing, get out in the sun and just relax and catch some bass,” Dan said. “It’s not anything that big, a couple five-pounders here and there, maybe something a little bit bigger.”

The getaway started when Dan and Rob were in high school at St. Thomas Aquinas in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. It became another bonding activity for the Wenger boys, as Dan wanted to tag along with his brothers, Rob and Eddie.

It didn’t always work out even as Dan surpassed his brothers in height and weight before resting at his current 6-foot-4, 287 pounds.

Rob put Dan through baseball and football drills, pushing him to become better even though Dan acquired the nickname “The Babe” for his propensity to swat Little League home runs and then run around the bases like another large slugger.

“He always wanted to do what we did, and by the time he was old enough to do what we did, he took athletics to another level,” Eddie said. “He was easily a head taller than every other kid playing with him.”

By the time the youngest Wenger was an eighth-grader helping out on the sidelines as a ball boy for Aquinas, he was as tall and as wide as some of the seniors. Aquinas coach George Smith even pulled Eddie out of class his senior year to ask why Dan hadn’t taken the admissions test to enter the school.

Eddie’s response: “Well, he’s only in eighth grade.”

That was the moment his family knew – “The Babe” had the potential to be big.

Of course, in size, Dan already was. A steady diet of pizza and milk helped. So did, as his father, Ed put it, cleaning out concession stands at ballparks across Broward County.

“We still have two fridges, two freezers,” Ed said. “Everyone at Sam’s Club knows us by name when we come in. We’d have a couple shopping carts at a time and people would say, ‘Oh, you must have football players.’ ”

By Dan’s sophomore year he earned playing time on the varsity team, rare at a powerhouse like Aquinas. The summer before, Rob and Dan continued their workouts and discovered something more lasting than football – friendship.

“Since then,” Rob said, “it’s like my best friend.”

The three Wengers each played in college: Eddie at Florida International, Rob at Colgate and now Dan at Notre Dame.

“They are my two best friends,” Dan said. “I don’t get to see them that much but when I do, it is strictly having time for them and making time for them.”

When Dan arrived in South Bend, an injury to his right wrist forced him to the scout team, not starting on varsity for the first time since his sophomore year of high school.

Frustrated by the wrist, Dan did what younger brothers do – he took advice from his older brother, Eddie.

“I told him to never get irritated or resist changing a position,” Eddie said. “I tried to convince him to keep an open mind about everything when it comes to where the coaches need him the most.”

While watching, Dan began to learn how to play guard as well as his natural position at center. In the summer, he worked out with Rob, pushing harder than Rob had ever seen him work.

He knew this year would provide him a shot to play – at right guard.

Dan, 19, is in competition with sophomores Matt Carufel and Eric Olsen at right guard. On Saturday, during the team’s open practice, Dan took the majority of the snaps with the first team.

“I’m getting a good grip of what we’re trying to accomplish as a team and as an offense,” Dan said. “It feels good to not just be stuck in one position but to be more versatile and to help the team out in more than one position.”

 

[HeavenKnows]

Fantastic read! I remember his highlights from highschool and the one person who reminds me so much of Dan Wenger is Michael Brewster of The Ohio State U bunch. Dan would pancake a lineman and continue into the secondary and knock down another D player. He did this over and over again. He is one nasty, nasty player. He and Sam Young just dominated defenses.

 

[johnnd05]

More on the o-line:

August 19. 2007 6:59AM

Bemenderfer following his dream

ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND -- As he tried to peel back the shock, Thomas Bemenderfer kept coming back to the dream he had walked away from.

His offensive coordinator and offensive line coach at Northwestern had already been plucked away for jobs with more obvious prestige and more potent paychecks, and now -- on June 29, 2006 -- his head coach dies abruptly of a heart attack at age 52.

"No one saw it coming," said Bemenderfer, who had just completed his freshman year at Northwestern. "And when you heard about it, you couldn't believe it was real. It's not something you can get over quickly. I'm not sure it's something you ever get over."

Bemenderfer's grief over the death of Randy Walker pushed the Penn High School product deeper into soul-searching mode. All he had ever wanted to do as a little kid was to play football for Notre Dame, to plant the seeds of a career in medicine at Notre Dame.

Walker's passing shook Bemenderfer into the realization that not only should every day matter, he had to make it matter. Every dream should too. So he asked for his release from his scholarship at Northwestern without any assurance he would be admitted to ND, without ever having spoken with the Irish football coaching staff, without anything substantive to follow but a heavy heart.

"It was like jumping off a cliff and just hoping everything would work out," the Notre Dame junior center said.

He still does not have a scholarship, a bio in the ND media guide or any guarantee that the Sept. 1 Irish season opener against Georgia Tech will be the first time he plays in a real game since

Penn's semistate playoff loss to Fort Wayne Snider in 2004. But he does have a chance.

"We were very encouraged by him the entire year last year," ND head coach Charlie Weis said. "He showed position-flexibility in practice. He played center, guard and tackle in practice, and he's a very, very intelligent kid. He had very little trouble adjusting to our system, and I definitely see him competing to be in the mix.

"He's a very unusual guy to be in a walk-on situation, because the kid can play. And it's a good thing this year that we have a guy like that in the mix as well."

Bemenderfer, now 6-foot-5 and 285 pounds, redshirted his only season at Northwestern, then had to sit out his sophomore year at Notre Dame in 2006 to comply with NCAA transfer regulations.

He could have come to ND through the front door, but when the Irish came to recruit him in the fall of 2004, the Tyrone Willingham regime was crumbling and the instability spilled over into Bemenderfer's recruiting visit.

"Everything was kind of a blur and mixed up," he said, diplomatically. "I came to the decision Northwestern would be a better fit for me.

"And Northwestern is a great school, with great coaches and great players. I kind of put Notre Dame out of my mind for a while. I remember when they hired Charlie Weis and I remember them doing well, but that's about it. I was really focused on Northwestern. But the dream wouldn't go away, and I just decided to follow it."

And follow it he did, through the chaotic few weeks of getting admitted, letting his parents know that they were going to have to write a check now for tuition and trying to get the football coaches interested enough to give him a chance.

"My parents were so great about this," he said. "They knew how important this was to me, and they knew that it might not work out."

For a few days, Bemenderfer couldn't even get an appointment to see a secretary in the football office. But his persistence paid off. He met with an assistant coach and two days later received a terse directive over the phone to show up at fall camp.

"That phone call was only one or two days before they reported for fall camp in '06," Bemenderfer said. "There weren't a lot of conversations about this, and it wasn't like a real warm reception -- though I wasn't demanding or expecting that.

"The good thing is my brother, David, has been a walk-on here before, so at least some of the older guys knew me through him. But even just walking in not knowing whether I was going to be accepted or taken seriously, I still felt so lucky and so appreciative of what the coaches were doing for me."

And now that sophomore center Dan Wenger has popped up at the top of the depth chart at right guard, at least for the moment, the only person ahead of Bemenderfer at center is fifth-year senior John Sullivan.

"You run through your mind all the ways you'd like for this to end up," Bemenderfer said. "But following your dreams is more important than how they end. Right now I'm just thankful I'm here. The coaches could have easily told me, 'Sorry, we don't take transfers.' But they didn't. They gave me a second chance at my first love. I'll never take that for granted."

 

[johnnd05]

An eat-to-win diet
An Italian buffet gives the Irish's OL time to carbo-load and bond, writes Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

August 18, 2007

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- One can only imagine the emergency measures taken by the proprietors of Bruno's, a local Italian eatery, when the Notre Dame offensive linemen show up to eat en masse. And, as it were, in mass.

The place has a buffet, which suggests a readiness for gorgers. But satisfying diners with appetites normally reserved for predatory packs on the Serengeti?


"A lot of carbs, that's what we need," Irish tackle Paul Duncan said. "You can down a lot of food there. But that pizza -- you can't eat too much of that. It's pretty hard on your stomach."

Every offensive line ever, it seems, uses the same ticket to camaraderie -- the meal ticket. The Irish are no different, their weekly binge theoretically prompting bonding, which they hope translates to on-field chemistry.

This is especially critical in 2007, when three new starters must emerge on a unit as vital to offensive production as the new quarterback who lines up behind it.

"You need to be able to trust the guy next to you," tackle Sam Young said. "That's the one thing I love about offensive line. You don't really have the notoriety as individual players. It's more as a unit. When one guy messes up, you can't have a good play. So the whole unit messes up.

"Without the offensive line, the running back doesn't get any yards. And the more time we give the quarterback, whoever it is, the better off we'll be."

While the new linemen are not thoroughly experienced, they are not pencil-necked greenhorns, either. Duncan, a 6-foot-7-inch, 308-pounder who will man the crucial left tackle spot, is a junior. So, too, is left guard Mike Turkovich, who measures 6-6 and 301.

One of two sophomores, Dan Wenger or Matt Carufel, will slide in at right guard. Perhaps it's just the optimism of the season, but the Irish maintain the new starters have enough schooling to qualify as ready. And if they aren't, Irish coach Charlie Weis says enough depth exists to substitute if needed.

"We've all been here for a little while," Duncan said. "I've been here three years. You just do it. You just practice in it, sit and watch film, and you're ready."

The anchors are John Sullivan and Young, though the latter's encore was the only one guaranteed to occur. Young, now carrying 310 pounds on his 6-8 frame, is but one year removed from taking the field as a freshman against Georgia Tech, marveling at the panoply of creative insults dumped on his team by Yellow Jackets fans sitting maybe 10 feet behind the Irish bench.

"Every name under the sun," Young said. "I thought it was great. I'll never forget that."

Sullivan, who has started 21 straight games, had a chance to experience entirely different name-calling: hearing a league official announce his name on NFL draft weekend. But fitting in the one course he needed to graduate would have been arduous, and otherwise he felt like he could use a fifth year of seasoning.

"It didn't feel right leaving," Sullivan said. "It would have been on a sour note."

Given a presumed reliance on the running game and the uncertainty at quarterback, it's entirely possible a rickety, out-of-sync offensive line could arrest the entire Irish attack. Notre Dame's 125.7 rushing yards per game a year ago was good for just 72nd nationally, but Brady Quinn's arm was the other option.

A less accomplished arm dictates more be provided by the Irish ground game, and thus the line, and the result will be quite clear starting in the opener against a stout Georgia Tech defense.

"We had a lot of experience last year, and having experience helps younger guys come along faster," Sullivan said. "The guys who will be stepping in this year have been behind guys who knew what they were doing. We have a lot of tape to watch, a lot of time together that we had in spring ball to form a little bit. We'll be jelling even faster this camp."

They'd better, because Notre Dame can't afford its linemen to eat their words.

 

[OCIrish]

I really hope that the teamwork developed off of the field carries over to the field this season. I was thoroughly unimpressed with our line play last year. BQ, I thought was on his back, or facing D-lineman in his face way too much as opposed to 05'. For some reason, our interior line play, to be more specific, I thought reall killed us at times. I remember having, what seemed to me, alot of holding penalties come from the interior 3 lineman. I can't say one had more than the others, but it seemed to me that we would have a holding penalty at some of the most inopurtune times. They killed drives, or took us out of the red zone or put us into the ever exciting field goal attempt. I'm excited about our prospects on the line this year, but, if they don't return to the form of 05', it's going to be a long year for whoever starts at QB, not to mention RB.


Go Irish!!!

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

More on the o-line:

August 19. 2007 6:59AM

Bemenderfer following his dream

ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND -- As he tried to peel back the shock, Thomas Bemenderfer kept coming back to the dream he had walked away from...

You really have to pull for this kid...he's got heart.

 

[NDboy15]

Great articles.

 

[johnnd05]

Young no longer restless

By Tim Prister, IrishIllustrated.com Senior Editor – Rivals.com

Offensive tackle Sam Young was just trying to get his bearings during '06 fall camp as a true freshman. He would go on to start all 13 games for the Fighting Irish.

He returns this August as one of the veterans of the offensive line.

"It's a lot nicer to just kind of work on the nuances as opposed to the big picture," said Young, who admitted that his head was "swimming" last year at this time.

"Last year I had some of the older guys to help me with the plays. But when you have to go full speed, it's a lot harder.

"My mental aspect, I'm a lot calmer making decisions on the field. Physically, I think I'm bigger, faster, stronger. I have a year under my belt, and I played against some really good players last year. I just have more confidence in myself."

His first game—against Georgia Tech in Bobby Dodd Stadium—was an adrenaline rush, especially when the partisan crowd started directing their taunts at him.

"Probably the most endearing image from that game is walking onto that field for the first time and being called every name under the sun," Young smiled. "We're sitting on the bench and the fans were probably 10 feet behind us, cussing us out. I thought it was great. I'll never forget that. You've just got to soak it up and enjoy it."

At 6-foot-8, 315 pounds, everything about Young physically says offensive lineman. His mental approach says it as well.

"The thing with the offensive line is you need to be able to trust the guy next to you because he's got your back," Young said. "That's the one thing I love about the offensive line. You don't have the notoriety of the other people on the field. It's not about individual player achievement. It's more of a unit, and if one guy messes up, you can't have a good play. In that respect, you have to be cohesive. You have to trust one another."

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

If I were Latina, I would have my game plan all dialed in on how the Irish line is going to dominate next year. I would have graphs, models, illustrations, powerpoint, spreadsheets, and a telestrator.
Maybe if he gave enough misdirection, he could convince CW none of it falls on him.

 

[KamaraPolice]

If I were Latina, I would have my game plan all dialed in on how the Irish line is going to dominate next year. I would have graphs, models, illustrations, powerpoint, spreadsheets, and a telestrator.
Maybe if he gave enough misdirection, he could convince CW none of it falls on him.

see stoney, thats the problem. Where's the overhead at? all this new technology, and no overheads. sometimes it best to just keep it real.

 

[littlerick77]

here's to next years O-Line......just missing Big Trev and Patchan in this pic.

Boy, are these guys f-in HUGE or what??

From left, Cleland, Golic, Cave, and a midget walk on (before the Duke game).....

 

[littlerick77]

here's to next years O-Line......just missing Big Trev and Patchan in this pic.

Boy, are these guys f-in HUGE or what??

From left, Cleland, Golic, Cave, and a midget walk on (before the Duke game).....

actually, I meant Page, not Patchan......my bad

 

[Fishin'_Irish]

here's to next years O-Line......just missing Big Trev and Patchan in this pic.

Boy, are these guys f-in HUGE or what??

From left, Cleland, Golic, Cave, and a midget walk on (before the Duke game).....

Don't you love that feeling of "This guy could eat me". Great picture, btw.

 

[littlerick77]

yeah, i felt like these guys would squash me like a bug......I know i'm short, but these guys were like mack trucks!

they were cool guys, looks like they're all solid commitments, which we should all feel good about.

 

[Fishin'_Irish]

yeah, i felt like these guys would squash me like a bug......I know i'm short, but these guys were like mack trucks!

they were cool guys, looks like they're all solid commitments, which we should all feel good about.

Always good to hear good stuff about commits. Mack truck and O-line are good friends.

 

[JeremyND07]

I still think our O-Line has been underachievers since Latina been here! Ryan Harris is a perfect example...he had a good career but I think you should of been 1st round quality with his heart, work ethic, and skills coming out of HS. I just do not see the attitude that I think an OL at ND should have...that piss in your coke attitude that Faine had is perfect. I know a lot of that is the guys personallity but we need a young coach to lite a fire under these guys and get them out of their zombie like emotions on game day....