'08 IL OL Graham Pocic (Illinois Verbal)

[IrishCalves]

I think the Pocic idea is over. And lets not forget Kenneth Page. When he got the offer, he said some excellent things about ND, that they'd be a school in his top 5, even though he was nowhere close to trimming his list. Forst, Patchan, or Page are all our best hopes...

 

[marv81s]

if something doesn't happen this weekend with Forst and ND shoots an offer to Pocic on sunday afternoon, does anyone in here really think/believe that Pocic will say, sorry, not interested? No way. Its easy to take that quote out of context, but you can rest easy, if he gets an offer from ND, he is going to be thrilled. You take a gander at his offer list as it stands without an ND offer, it is very impressive for someone that just burst onto the scene in less that 2 months basically, the kid has blown up.

 

[irishunclebill]

Oh and while I am on a GBW rant, how pissed off do you think those guys are about Clelland going to ND when they said he was a scUM lock, and the Irish in the lead for Blanton, with Michigan not even in the picture, when they said he would commit early to the scUM. Oh and how about the mortal scUM lock Omar Hunter, who instead of immediately committing to Michigan now has ND in his Top 5. Shall I go on! Right now, those guys would not give the Irish a plug if it was broadcast all over the Internet.

Enough already, I need a nap.

 

[Axl Rose]

The thing about Forst is that his offer list isn't the most impressive and he reportedly had a very bad camp recently. Maybe the staff is pushing Forst cause hes not as good as they once thought and not worth waiting and possibly losing other prospects for.

 

[Axl Rose]

I think the Pocic idea is over. And lets not forget Kenneth Page. When he got the offer, he said some excellent things about ND, that they'd be a school in his top 5, even though he was nowhere close to trimming his list. Forst, Patchan, or Page are all our best hopes...

Page is just a shade under 6-4, I think we're looking at him as a guard.

 

[Axl Rose]

Oh and while I am on a GBW rant, how pissed off do you think those guys are about Clelland going to ND when they said he was a scUM lock, and the Irish in the lead for Blanton, with Michigan not even in the picture, when they said he would commit early to the scUM. Oh and how about the mortal scUM lock Omar Hunter, who instead of immediately committing to Michigan now has ND in his Top 5. Shall I go on! Right now, those guys would not give the Irish a plug if it was broadcast all over the Internet.

Enough already, I need a nap.

We have been winning lots of recruiting battles over Michigan this year. Crist, Goodman, Fleming, Cave, and Clelland all choose us over Michigan.

 

[irishnd31]

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[irishunclebill]

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LMAO- Thanks back to you buddy, but instead of taking a nap, I think it's time for me to get a grip, so I'm going to go back to Marty's web site for a while and just sit and stare.

 

[irishnd31]

LMAO- Thanks back to you buddy, but instead of taking a nap, I think it's time for me to get a grip, so I'm going to go back to Marty's web site for a while and just sit and stare.

LMAO.

 

[irishunclebill]

I hate to go back to the GBW/Pocic article, but I guess I am just a glutton for punishment. Look at these two questions from the article.

Are you going to be making any summer visits?

"Yeah I'm going to go to Florida and Florida State, and probably to a couple others."

Do you have a top 3-4-5 yet?

"Not yet, I'm waiting a little longer before I put anything in order."

The first question asks if he is doing any visits this summer, the second question acts as if his answer to the first question was that Florida & FSU were his top 2 teams. I'm sorry, but these GBW guys are complete morons.

For anyone who doubts this, remember that the GBW guys seriously thought that they also had a chance at Fleming, and this is the headline blurb from their March 14th article on that subject.

Cali. DE Fleming Lists Michigan High

I'm sure that Darius was excited to find out that these GBW guys who thought he was so high on Michigan also thought he was from California.

OK, I'm done. Get the point, GBW is garbage especially when it comes to ND, if you print out their articles, use them for TP. AAH! Now, I need to go back to Marty's website again.

 

[Irishknight1023]

IUB when you go on rants they are usually classic. This is up there with the Meyer one, thought I don't think that will ever be topped.

 

[irishunclebill]

IUB when you go on rants they are usually classic. This is up there with the Meyer one, thought I don't think that will ever be topped.

Rants about Meyer! Who is Meyer?

Do you mean Oscar Mayer (my bologna has a first name),

or maybe you mean

Fred Meyer (for all you Oregonians),

or possibly,

Meier & Frank (for all you older Oregonians),

or maybe you mean,

Meijer (for the South Bend crowd),

or

Louis B. Mayer (the original last M in MGM),

I'm really confused, who is this Meyer guy you are talking about. Never heard of him.

 

[Jason Pham]

Rants about Meyer! Who is Meyer?

Do you mean Oscar Mayer (my bologna has a first name),

or maybe you mean

Fred Meyer (for all you Oregonians),

or possibly,

Meier & Frank (for all you older Oregonians),

or maybe you mean,

Meijer (for the South Bend crowd),

or

Louis B. Mayer (the original last M in MGM),

I'm really confused, who is this Meyer guy you are talking about. Never heard of him.

Damn, Bill. You are good.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

You forgot Meyer Lansky (dumbass) LOL

 

[rontdtarchala]

ya know I don't care how bad my day may be going I have you guys to cheer me up many reps to all

 

[rockne19]

Do you mean Meyer the Liar?

 

[GoshenGipper]

Graham was invited to ND's upcomming Elite Camp but he declined the invitation.

 

[irishunclebill]

Graham was invited to ND's upcomming Elite Camp but he declined the invitation.

Only part of the story.


Sorry IK1023, but no offer to Pocic unless he is willing to attend an ND camp, and he is not willing, so it looks like Graham will be headed elsewhere. There could be a few reasons for this. Best case is Forst is going to commit to ND, and the Irish do not want to offer Pocic, but there is also the possibility that the staff just simply does not consider Pocic to be an elite level OL. Final possibility, and I hope it was not this for Pocic's sake, is that the ND staff was turned off by Graham setting a deadline for receiving an offer.

 

[marv81s]

i think the ultimatum he gave didn't sit well with the staff and that they must feel good about their chances with those they have already offered

 

[Irishknight1023]

I agree I didn't like the deadline Pocic set, but I still think that Forst will wind up at Rutgers and we'll be left in the cold with no Pocic or Forst and just Page who doesn't know what he is going to do. Page is a guard while Pocic and Forst will be tackles. The staff knows what they're doing so I'm not worried, just from the outside looking in I don't think it is a very good caculated risk.hwhateve

 

[Akron Irish]

I'm glad we didn't give in to the ultimatum set by Pocic. If we had, I could see it becoming a trend in college football

 

[jiggafini19]

I like rolling the dice on Forst because he's better than Pocic. Whatsmore, John Latina is a very underrated recruiter. The OL haul since he's been here proves it. His candor with the likes of Sam Young, Matt Carufel, Matt Romine and Lane Clelland is the pudding's proof.

Forst has taken a liking to Latina and I think Forst's tone is very similar to that of ND's own New Jersey native. Forst has even admitted that the pressure around town is that of an ND nature, not Rutgers. Plenty of ND folk in Jersey I guess.

Page seems to be saying all of the right things and an official visit seems to be a pretty good bet. With Bill Lewis recruiting him along with Latina, there is again always that chance.

Guys like Hughes and Tate went the extra mile to get into ND, although those were academic issues. If Pocic wants it bad enough, he can wait without an ultimatum. Ask Taylor Dever. If he has a deadline to make his college choice, so be it.

 

[Irishknight1023]

There are more ND fans in Jersey then there are RU fans I'll tell you that. Jigga, why don't you think Pocic isn't good enough for an offer and have you seen him play?

 

[jiggafini19]

There are more ND fans in Jersey then there are RU fans I'll tell you that. Jigga, why don't you think Pocic isn't good enough for an offer and have you seen him play?

It isn't that I don't think he's good enough. I just think that Forst and Page are better.

I think the staff feels the same way, just like they do in regards to guys like Jonas Gray, Kabongo and Jon Major.

I have not seen him play in person. Lemont is pretty far south of where I am. I saw one of their games on Game of the Week via our Chicago area Comcast cable access. I was paying more attention to Aaron Nagel, though.

 

[illinoisirish88]

I'm glad we passed too. We are in a position of strength to go for broke on the top guys at OL. I say keep working on Patchan, Page, and Forst. If we miss, it seems like DL recruiting is going good enough to have most if not all of Stewart, Nwankno, & Nuss all moving to OL sooner rather than latter in which case we have VERY good numbers on OL (13 in 3 recruiting classes plus the tranfer from Northwestern). We have lots of elite kids at other positions and at this point given the choice of Pocic or a 5th DL or 5th LB out of our current offers...I would pass on Pocic.

 

[irishunclebill]

Pocic gets Zooked

Link to Free Scout Story:

Scout.com: Pocic Commits to Illinois

 

[Irishknight1023]

whhhhhhhhaaaaat.........thats crazy damnit how does he do it? Ever watch that movie Blue Clips....Zook has "Friends of the program".

 

[Akron Irish]

Shady Business.

 

[Irish52]

We may have outsmarted ourselves on this one. If he had the grades. I wonder why we weren't ones of the first to offer. Strange!

 

[rontdtarchala]

say what you want zook's getting it done...yeah I hate it too but its still happening