'08 IL LB Steve Filer (Signed LOI to ND)

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I thought OSU had 1-2 slots available for LB. So yeah, Filer seems like he's a plan B recruit for them.
OSU probably will take two LBs this year. Offers have gone out to Hale, Sweat, Filer, Beal, Wilson, Sabino. Of them, I expect Hale and Sweat to be buckeyes.
If that's the truth, I don't see why they would be interested in Filer. They already have Devoe Torrence (although he might play RB at OSU), and Hale has always been pretty high on OSU.
You are right. Devoe Torrence has been recruited as a RB. In fact, reliable sources confirm that our coaches told Torrence that they wouldn't take any more RBs in this class if he committed.
 

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In all likelyhood Steve will now no longer be attending O$U's Spring game because of an illness that his mother is having to go through.

I hope she gets better soon, but if it was going to happen the timing couldn't be better for ND.
 

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The more I follow this kids recruitment the more I feel he won't be coming here. He never says diddly about us and just is a very i don't know, boring recruit with no excitment about playing ball. I say in the end he goes to Illinois with Tez Wilson.
 
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The more I follow this kids recruitment the more I feel he won't be coming here. He never says diddly about us and just is a very i don't know, boring recruit with no excitment about playing ball. I say in the end he goes to Illinois with Tez Wilson.

He did want to committ to ND not all that long ago, but wanted a silent verbal, under Weis's new policy, Weis told him no, and to take more time to think about it more

I think it will come down to ND and Mich, osu is about done at LB.

I feel iffy about Filer at this point.

Michigan is my main concern
 

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wasn't that just a "rumor" though because i remember hearing that he wanted to silent commit to but nobody had any substantial resoning or proof behind it....what have you heard?
 

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The more I follow this kids recruitment the more I feel he won't be coming here. He never says diddly about us and just is a very i don't know, boring recruit with no excitment about playing ball. I say in the end he goes to Illinois with Tez Wilson.

Yeah, you're way off on this one buddy. What Marv said is true he already wanted to commit to ND but he wanted it to be a silent commitment, so he could still look around and confirm that ND was the right place for him. But since this goes against ND's new recruiting policy Weis and Brown told him thanks but no thanks at that current time, because if that was the way he really felt then he truely wasn't ready to commit. He did not make the trip to O$U this past weekend, but he is planning on stopping by soon on his upcomming trip to Ohio, and if he doesn't end up at ND I think it'll be Skunkbears, or the Bucknuts, not Illi-Noise.
 

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what i typed is what I heard, maybe it was false internet rumor, maybe not.

It was said that he wanted to give a silent committ, Weis and company filled him in that is not their policy and if he wasn't sure, he should take more time.

Him and his dad went up to skunkbear land, his dad is a big fan of Michigan. When they went up there for their visity, one of his dads ole buddies just happened to be there. Imagine that. That is why I am more worried about michigan than anyone else right now.
 

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Weis doesn't have a problem if your a silent commit as long as you don't take visits. Fleming committed to the Irish weeks ago but want to do it at B&G game. Crist committed to ND on Monday after he returned home from South Bend. The coaching staff has no problem with silent verbals it's that if you say you are committed and visit elsewhere is won't they won't take silent or not.
 
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From Coach Weis's press conference, on signing day, February 7th:

"No soft verbals, no silent verbals, no quiet verbals, okay? Either you're committed or you're not committed."

You can read more about his new definition of committment, listen to his response to the 9th question posed:

Signing Day Press Conference

I think Weis will translate "silent verbals" into, "I'm really close to committing, but I'm still not 100% certain." To treat it as anything more puts the staff in a position where they can be duped, and count on something that isn't trustworthy yet. It only benefits a player, by in essence securing their place in one team's recruiting class, yet allows them to still be a "free agent".
 

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I think Weis will translate "silent verbals" into, "I'm really close to committing, but I'm still not 100% certain." To treat it as anything more puts the staff in a position where they can be duped, and count on something that isn't trustworthy yet. It only benefits a player, by in essence securing their place in one team's recruiting class, yet allows them to still be a "free agent".
I agree. What he won't have is "soft verbals" because they mean nothing and thats what I think he ment when he talking about Silent commits.
 

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I agree. What he won't have is "soft verbals" because they mean nothing and thats what I think he ment when he talking about Silent commits.

Either way a "silent commit" is meaningless. Whether Steve Filer offered to silent commit last month, or not, and whether CW accepted his silent commit or not, one thing for sure this year is that "silent commit" or whatever it is that you want to call it, does not mean that the staff will hold a scholarship offer for the recruit in lieu of assigning the slot to someone else. If Filer is in fact a "silent commit", when the verbal commits get close to 19, or if Beal & Sweat suddenly decided to commit to ND, then Steve is going to have to go "solid verbal" pretty quickly.
 

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I feel iffy about Filer at this point.

Michigan is my main concern

Yeah - I'm starting to get a bad vibe. I'd thought for a while that he was pretty much in our pocket but I guess that's definitely not true, and his situation really is starting to look similar to those of many of the guys we lost out on last year (though he certainly won't be going to Illinois). I suppose all we really need is to get 1-2 more of Filer/Hale/Sweat/Beal/Brown, but it'd be a real shame to lose out on a Chicago kid.

Anybody else have a strong sense of where we stand with him?
 

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No strong sense at all, just a gut feeling that if push came to shove today, that Filer would be Irish, and that the longer it takes for that to happen, the less likely it would seem to occur.
 

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No strong sense at all, just a gut feeling that if push came to shove today, that Filer would be Irish, and that the longer it takes for that to happen, the less likely it would seem to occur.

Could be the slogan for any number of recruits at this point ... I know that CW isn't big on pressuring kids to verbal (and it seemed to backfire at least once when he did it last year, with Benn), but I sure hope he makes it clear enough to them that there are only so many seats on the bus, and tickets are going fast. Actually, that's not quite right -- I'm SURE he'll make it clear enough to them; I just hope that guys like Filer get the message and make up their minds right quick.
 
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He did not pressure Benn to commit last year. After Benn had been a "silent" for months, the "pressure" was that the timeframe he gave the staff for telling the world what he had told the staff came and passed on several occasions.
 

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He did not pressure Benn to commit last year. After Benn had been a "silent" for months, the "pressure" was that the timeframe he gave the staff for telling the world what he had told the staff came and passed on several occasions.

Got it - my mistake.
 
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Just relax a bit, guys. We have ~10 slots left and 10 months to go before NSD. Personally, I'd prefer that things slow down a bit. There are a lot of very good prospects that won't even visit ND until the summer or fall.

Personally, I think Filer will ultimately end up coming to Notre Dame. Now that he's gotten his visits to Michigan and OSU, hopefully he has all the information he needs, but maybe he'll want to wait until the fall and take his official visits. There's no rush and no urgency. Maybe one of the other top LBs will take his spot, or maybe it will go to another position. Notre Dame will have a strong LB class in any case.
 

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ND is as in good of shape as anyone with Filer.

I think Michigan could pose a significant challenge in his recruiting. Ohio State's presence with regards to Filer isn't as worrisome to me.

Filer is a lot closer to the vest than Fleming was. He's a pretty tough read. His multiple ND visits could = Fleming or could = Trevor Robinson.
 
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Let's hope it = Robinson. One of the primary reasons Robinson gave in picking Nebraska was the 9 hour drive to South Bend. Filer's drive to S Bend will be much shorter than any other school he is interested in.
 
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Saw a little artilce in the chichago time that said Uof M is in the lead for Filer someone tell me that's not true.
 

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Just the writer's opinion, no basis to his stating it whatsoever. GBW tried to run with it right away, and interview Filer about it. Filer said he does not know what the writer based his info on, he did not tell him, or anyone, that he is a Michigan lean. As usual, though Steve kept it close to the vest, and did not come out with a ringing endorsement for ND either. Filer is not an ND lock as many people assumed he was, but ND is still the best choice for his background and stated future goals. He is obviously just not the type of kid that who is going to let the media make a circus of his recruitement, ala Sweat & Beal. When all is said and done, Filer will make the right choice for him, and hopefully, it will be ND.
 

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Saw a little artilce in the chichago time that said Uof M is in the lead for Filer someone tell me that's not true.


Scholarships on the line

Filer, who impresses scouts with his great frame, enormous potential, running ability and good instincts, appears to be leaning to Michigan over Notre Dame, Ohio State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Iowa and Minnesota.

According to Scout.com, Filer ranks as the No. 4 prospect in the Midwest -- behind Ohio State-bound tackle Mike Adams of Dublin, Ohio; Michigan-bound cornerback Boubacar Cissoko of Detroit; and Notre Dame-bound tight end Kyle Rudolph of Cincinnati.
 

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not looking good.

Again, I refer you to IUB's post on this article:

Just the writer's opinion, no basis to his stating it whatsoever. GBW tried to run with it right away, and interview Filer about it. Filer said he does not know what the writer based his info on, he did not tell him, or anyone, that he is a Michigan lean. As usual, though Steve kept it close to the vest, and did not come out with a ringing endorsement for ND either. Filer is not an ND lock as many people assumed he was, but ND is still the best choice for his background and stated future goals. He is obviously just not the type of kid that who is going to let the media make a circus of his recruitement, ala Sweat & Beal. When all is said and done, Filer will make the right choice for him, and hopefully, it will be ND.

I agree that this situation is disappointingly iffy, but let's keep our cool.
 

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I never expected him to come here, he just barley shows any enthusiasm toward ND at all...ever, shows more love to Michigan i'd assume but i don't know why but he strikes me as kind of different recruit so im not exactly in love with him no matter how good he is( and no it's not because he plays it close to the vest.)
 
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