2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race


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loomis41973

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Another excellent, Trump-esque response. You're a pro. The fact that you keep at it and continue to embarrass yourself is a testament to your dedication to the craft.

Keep the neg reps flowing, buddy. Either you're going to stand up and say something of substance, or you're not. If you want to continue to blather incoherently then I'm going to continue to call you out on it.

Thank you. It's an honor to be compared to Trump.
 

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That article and the rule have been talked to death. I deal will things as they currently are..not what may or may not happen. I don't see many running to change it to endorse Cruz. Politicians seem to very scared of Trump ending their free ride.

LOL. Do you ever post anything of substance? Shit my 6yo is better at making coherent arguments.
 

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It's ok guys Kasich won't take the low road to potus, completely ignoring his only shot is backroom dealing going against majority vote. Lol guys a fin goofball that could barely finish a sentence coherently.
 

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It's ok guys Kasich won't take the low road to potus, completely ignoring his only shot is backroom dealing going against majority vote. Lol guys a fin goofball that could barely finish a sentence coherently.

Huh?
Kasich is by far the best qualified candidate on the R side and he can't get any traction.
 

IrishLax

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Yes, they can, along with a lot of other rules. But UNTIL they do, it is the standing rule which applies NOW.

Right. But the bigger question is: so what? My point is that the whole discussion of the rule is pointless because they can write it out as easy as they write it in. So we all agree... it exists, if the convention were tomorrow it would matter, but until we get closer and until they say that they are or are not writing it out it's not worth putting weight on it.
 

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MO GOP 2 Counties Still Incomplete

MO GOP 2 Counties Still Incomplete

St Louis City turned in a win for Trump.

Cass Co still 98%, last updated 9:53 pm ET, Cruz leads 7671 to 6886, less than 800 margin


St Louis Co still 92%, last updated 11:09 pm ET, Trump leads 44157 to 43673, less than 500 margin
 

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Constantly. If that's not coherent, i can't help you. It's the rule. Would you like it typed out for you?

I wish that you would go back and answer some of Lax's questions with some depth or intelligence. I have a feeling that what I want or would like doesn't matter to you. Hell answer any question posed to you in an intelligent and thoughtful manner. Damn.
 

loomis41973

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I wish that you would go back and answer some of Lax's questions with some depth or intelligence. I have a feeling that what I want or would like doesn't matter to you. Hell answer any question posed to you in an intelligent and thoughtful manner. Damn.



I have over and over and over and over. The antiTrumps just want to argue. I gave points i liked, what more is needed????

Let's pick one...
 

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Right. But the bigger question is: so what? My point is that the whole discussion of the rule is pointless because they can write it out as easy as they write it in. So we all agree... it exists, if the convention were tomorrow it would matter, but until we get closer and until they say that they are or are not writing it out it's not worth putting weight on it.

Until such time as the rule is changed, if changed, the current one rules.


Gee, let's debate the 2017 football season with what rules they may change, or not change.

Or, perhaps from the Cruz perspective how many delegates can dance on the head of a pin.

Haven't you guys run out of urine yet?
 

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I have over and over and over and over. The antiTrumps just want to argue. I gave points i liked, what more is needed????

Let's pick one...

Literally everyone in this thread knows that this is a lie. You're really bordering on troll territory now.
 

IrishLax

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Until such time as the rule is changed, if changed, the current one rules.


Gee, let's debate the 2017 football season with what rules they may change, or not change.

Or, perhaps from the Cruz perspective how many delegates can dance on the head of a pin.

Haven't you guys run out of urine yet?

I guess I don't get the consternation here? Maybe I wasn't paying attention to the whole back and forth on 40b close enough.

Bottom line is that a lot of political experts say not to put weight on it right now. If you want to, that totally makes sense, and I don't really care. I regret chiming in at all on the topic.
 

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Until such time as the rule is changed, if changed, the current one rules.


Gee, let's debate the 2017 football season with what rules they may change, or not change.

Or, perhaps from the Cruz perspective how many delegates can dance on the head of a pin.

Haven't you guys run out of urine yet?

I think ND has a shot if they change the rules for the BCS that a school has to graduate 90% or better.
 

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MSNBC CALLS MO FOR TRUMP

MSNBC CALLS MO FOR TRUMP

Trump has about 2K margin


A win by one vote gives 12 state delegates to the winner.

CNN previously had called Trump and Cruz with 11 each.

That leaves a bunch still to be awarded.
 

IrishLax

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Um, no you haven't. You have given exactly zero specifics.

How about China. Go.

Definitely a good one, because Trump's mercantilism with respect to China has a lot of merits. Truth is, a lot of Trump's policy positions have merit.

I was honestly curious to see if an adamant supporter could articulate one and say why he supported it. It was a thought experiment that turned out to have a hilarious result as he just continued to blather on and on and try to bully his way into being "right" and then make other just truly ludicrous excuses for not answering.

The best part is that it would've been much easier for him to simply gone to Trump's website and done copy+paste. But I guess I give Trump supporters too much credit.
 

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Alright I'm out of here for the night... looking forward to reading all of loomis' further brilliance in the morning.
 

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I have over and over and over and over. The antiTrumps just want to argue. I gave points i liked, what more is needed????

Let's pick one...

Also I love the neg reps you give out. You can't post anything of substance and feel a need to attack people and neg rep them when they call you out. Bravo.


Again, my 6yo crafts better arguments then yours, he at least give some substance to his answers and is able to memorize things to parrot back.
 

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MO Neither CNN Nor Fox have called a winner.

MO Neither CNN Nor Fox have called a winner.

Both have Trump leading by less than 1700 votes but consider MO too close to call.
 

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CNN's website shows all counties reporting 100%.

Cass Co and St Louis City were last to report.


I suspect that's what MSNBC used to make a call.




Clinton is leading Sanders by 1600 votes in MO.
 

loomis41973

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Um, no you haven't. You have given exactly zero specifics.

How about China. Go.

Well thats an easy one. Here are a few points

Since China has joined the WTO (thanks Bill Clinton) we have closed thousands of factories and lost millions of jobs. This was a terrible deal that can and will be revisited if Trump is elected. Clinton's damn near sold thier souls to the Chinese for massive payoffs.

Stop the currency manipulation by China. Obama has done zero on this issue even though it's known to be happening. This gives Chinese exporters a huge advantage...just ask the steel industry.

Strengthen our intellectual rights and patents and stop the imports of these stolen items. There are billions lost here.

Lower the corporate tax rate and bring those jobs back to the US not in China with no labor laws and a huge pollution problem.

I trust the guy to broker a better deal one way or another...many don't agree, but that's their choice.
 

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Well thats an easy one. Here are a few points

Since China has joined the WTO (thanks Bill Clinton) we have closed thousands of factories and lost millions of jobs. This was a terrible deal that can and will be revisited if Trump is elected. Clinton's damn near sold thier souls to the Chinese for massive payoffs.

Stop the currency manipulation by China. Obama has done zero on this issue even though it's known to be happening. This gives Chinese exporters a huge advantage...just ask the steel industry.

Strengthen our intellectual rights and patents and stop the imports of these stolen items. There are billions lost here.

Lower the corporate tax rate and bring those jobs back to the US not in China with no labor laws and a huge pollution problem.

I trust the guy to broker a better deal one way or another...many don't agree, but that's their choice.

I appreciate that you answer with substance.

Now to the disagreement

1. Our intellectual rights and patents are strong, how would you strengthen them?

2. How are you bringing jobs back, tax rates don't really have anything to do with it, and we are already seeing some investment from Chinese companies, and here is an article from the Washington Times (a conservative website) about Trump and China Donald Trump boast to bring jobs back from China gets dumped on by economists - Washington Times

3. How do you stop the currency manipulation? I haven't seen Trump give any specifics on it (though I could have missed it).

4. Why do you have that much faith in Trump? While he has been successful in real estate the road is littered with failed trump ventures.
 

BleedBlueGold

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Few things:

  • Wow, I missed a lot of banter here last night.
  • I'm convinced the world is coming to an end. The U.S. as we know it, at least.
  • I would be able to get behind Trump's anti-China rhetoric if it wasn't for the fact that he actually does business in China (and Mexico too since he's so anti-Mexico). He's a fucking liar, pandering to his crowds for votes, just like every other politician. And no, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for being "anti-establishment" or a "successful businessman."
  • Seriously, someone please talk me off this cliff: Trump vs Hillary. My God are we in trouble.
 

Blaise

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Few things:

  • Wow, I missed a lot of banter here last night.
  • I'm convinced the world is coming to an end. The U.S. as we know it, at least.
  • I would be able to get behind Trump's anti-China rhetoric if it wasn't for the fact that he actually does business in China (and Mexico too since he's so anti-Mexico). He's a fucking liar, pandering to his crowds for votes, just like every other politician. And no, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for being "anti-establishment" or a "successful businessman."
  • Seriously, someone please talk me off this cliff: Trump vs Hillary. My God are we in trouble.

Feel like any scenario from here on out is depressing. Even if Trump doesn't get the votes and they vote for Cruz, Trump will be so angry he will run as third party... Thus giving HRC the election... Head to Head is only way she loses and sadly Trump winning could be even worse... Maybe I can take a 4 year vacation
 

NDohio

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Few things:

  • Wow, I missed a lot of banter here last night.
  • I'm convinced the world is coming to an end. The U.S. as we know it, at least.
  • I would be able to get behind Trump's anti-China rhetoric if it wasn't for the fact that he actually does business in China (and Mexico too since he's so anti-Mexico). He's a fucking liar, pandering to his crowds for votes, just like every other politician. And no, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for being "anti-establishment" or a "successful businessman."
  • Seriously, someone please talk me off this cliff: Trump vs Hillary. My God are we in trouble.

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