2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race

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Today's Polls (2) Show Rubio Sliding While Others Gain.

Today's Polls (2) Show Rubio Sliding While Others Gain.

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FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell Trump 42, Cruz 19, Rubio 15, Kasich 14 Trump +23


Since the 3/2/16 pre-debate poll:
Trump +3
Cruz is +5
Rubio is -4
Kasich +2



Kansas
Trafalgar Group (R) Trump 35, Cruz 29, Rubio 17, Kasich 13, Carson Trump +6

Since last poll on 2/26/16
Trump +7
Cruz +25
Rubio-4
Kasich +10
Carson 3

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Latest Polls
 
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GoIrish41 said:
Thanks Obama: Lifelong Republican Says 'I Was So Wrong' After Obamacare Saves His Life
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NHS death rates four times higher than US
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Huh? Help me out ... what does the article you posted have to do with the one I posted?
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Perhaps he was trying to point out that your post is in the wrong thread. Obamacare's been a topic in the Political Thread.

Perhaps the connection was pointing out that a long standing NHS like England's doesn't come close to providing the level of care that the pre-Obama care system did in America.

Perhaps that the higher death rate in an NHS system results is related to an increased patient load per physician while reducing the resources available such as testing, procedures, medication, and hospital stays.

Perhaps that the subject in your article may be fortunate to have had his life saved in the early days of Obamacare when full patient loads haven't been yet realized and resources strained but moreover that the patient was more fortunate to not be subjected to a NHS system like England's.

My wife has a cousin who lives in England. She had insurance coverage her when she married a Brit and continues to pay her own premiums on her pre-Obama care insurance (at any price) and use physicians and medical facilities in the U.S. when she comes home twice a year on her U.S. Citizen passport.

P.S. And perhaps he's fortunate that he's not a veteran and awaiting for an appointment/procedure under the Obama Administration's Veteran's Administration where staffers still can bonuses while patients die waiting to be seen.

Mods feel free to move this couple of posts to the Polictical Thread where it should have been posted.
 
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BGIF said:
Perhaps he was trying to point out that your post is in the wrong thread. Obamacare's been a topic in the Political Thread.

Perhaps the connection was pointing out that a long standing NHS like England's doesn't come close to providing the level of care that the pre-Obama care system did in America.

Perhaps that the higher death rate in an NHS system results is related to an increased patient load per physician while reducing the resources available such as testing, procedures, medication, and hospital stays.

Perhaps that the subject in your article may be fortunate to have had his life saved in the early days of Obamacare when full patient loads haven't been yet realized and resources strained but moreover that the patient was more fortunate to not be subjected to a NHS system like England's.

My wife has a cousin who lives in England. She had insurance coverage her when she married a Brit and continues to pay her own premiums on her pre-Obama care insurance (at any price) and use physicians and medical facilities in the U.S. when she comes home twice a year on her U.S. Citizen passport.

P.S. And perhaps he's fortunate that he's not a veteran and awaiting for an appointment/procedure under the Obama Administration's Veteran's Administration where staffers still can bonuses while patients die waiting to be seen.

Mods feel free to move this couple of posts to the Polictical Thread where it should have been posted.
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Thanks you nailed it.
 
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BGIF said:
Perhaps he was trying to point out that your post is in the wrong thread. Obamacare's been a topic in the Political Thread.

Perhaps the connection was pointing out that a long standing NHS like England's doesn't come close to providing the level of care that the pre-Obama care system did in America.

Perhaps that the higher death rate in an NHS system results is related to an increased patient load per physician while reducing the resources available such as testing, procedures, medication, and hospital stays.

Perhaps that the subject in your article may be fortunate to have had his life saved in the early days of Obamacare when full patient loads haven't been yet realized and resources strained but moreover that the patient was more fortunate to not be subjected to a NHS system like England's.

My wife has a cousin who lives in England. She had insurance coverage her when she married a Brit and continues to pay her own premiums on her pre-Obama care insurance (at any price) and use physicians and medical facilities in the U.S. when she comes home twice a year on her U.S. Citizen passport.

P.S. And perhaps he's fortunate that he's not a veteran and awaiting for an appointment/procedure under the Obama Administration's Veteran's Administration where staffers still can bonuses while patients die waiting to be seen.

Mods feel free to move this couple of posts to the Polictical Thread where it should have been posted.
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So increased "patient load" will result when more people have access? Should we go back to the old system in which those who had insurance were well taken care of while the millions of others were just SOL or should we train more medical professionals by making the cost of their education more in line with this important national goal? I mean, we wouldn't want wealthy people to have to wait in line with the unwashed masses.

"Patient load" problems sounds a bit like code for "screw the poor" and uninsured. But you are right, this has nothing to do with the campaign in which all candidates of one party are threatening to repeal a law that has allowed 20 million more Americans to have health insurance while the candidates on the other side are proposing to expand the law. What was I thinking? What does this topic have to do with the presidential horse race? We should go back to talking about the really important issues in this thread like the size of Trump's penis and whether Little Marco or Lying Ted have a better shot at taking the nomination from the bigot who most of the GOP seems clearly to want.
 
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Agreed, which is why it's notable that someone at that institution is finally exhibiting a little self-awareness. I'm past my limit on free articles this week, so I haven't been able to read the whole thing. She'd get major props for indicting her own paper (very doubtful), but it's still something that she's criticizing the GOP for being out of touch with such a significant chunk of its base.
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Cruz Wins Kansas Caucuses

Cruz Wins Kansas Caucuses

Called by CNN and Fox

Cruz 51.3
Trump 23.9
Rubio 14.5
Kasich 9

Kansas has a 10% Threshold so Kasich is the only getting shutout at the moment.

40 delegates at stake.
 
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Cruz Leading Maine Caucuses

Cruz Leading Maine Caucuses

Cruz 48.0
Trump 35.0
Rubio 8.6
Kasich 7.4

Maine has a 10% Threshold so Rubio and Kasich both need help to keep from getting shutout.


N.B. Maine has a rule that winning better than 50% turns the event into a Winner Take All. Cruz at 48% is within striking distance.
 
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A Move By Cruz?

A Move By Cruz?

Yesterday the latest KS Poll had Trump +6

3/4 KS Poll
Trafalgar Group (R) Trump 35, Cruz 29, Rubio 17, Kasich 13, Carson Trump +6


Caucuses returns so far have Cruz over 51% up from the projected 29.

Trump is 10 points lower projected.

Rubio and Kasich are both about 1/2 of what the poll projected.


Cruz appear to have taken Trumps lost 10 points as well as those lost by Rubio and Kasich.
 
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Cruz Wins CPAC Straw Poll

Cruz Wins CPAC Straw Poll

Cruz 40%
Rubio 30
Trump 15
Kasich 8

The tally on Fox didn't show who got the other 7%.
 
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Cruz is opening 10 offices in Florida. Rubio has more pressure now than just Trump.
 
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Clinton

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Jump on Trump's band wagon about bad trade agreements, Hillary said today that she would not approve any trade agreement that take's job from America or dollars from worker's wallets.


I thought I recalled the Clinton Team making those same promises when campaigning for NAFTA.

Fool me once ...
 
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Maine Caucuses Delegate Distribution

Maine Caucuses Delegate Distribution

Cruz 12
Trump 9
Kasich 2
Rubio 0

Rubio did meet the 10% Treshold to be elgibile to get delegates.

Rubio is having Threshold issues elsewhere tonight.
 
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Nebraska Dems Bernie Wins!

Nebraska Dems Bernie Wins!

Bernie Wins 54.8% to 45.2

It's a state win but he hasn't helped himself in the delegate count.
 
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LA GOP

LA GOP

Early returns, 5%

Trump 46.5%
Cruz 23.8
Rubio 19.8
Kasich 3.3 woe!
 
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LA Dems

LA Dems

Clinton 71.9%
Sanders 20.7

Early returns but Hillary making it easy in the Big Easy.
 
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KY Trump Leads

KY Trump Leads

27% in

Trump 42.4%
Cruz 30.6
Rubio 13.1
Kasich 12.1


Rubio and Kasich below the 20% Delegate Threshold.
 
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LA To Clinton

LA To Clinton

per CNN. Called as winner.

51 delegates

Bernie 1% over the LA 20% Delegate Threshold
 
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BGIF said:
27% in

Trump 42.4%
Cruz 30.6
Rubio 13.1
Kasich 12.1


Rubio and Kasich below the 20% Delegate Threshold.
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Important to note that the percentage reporting is number of precincts, not number of voters. The urban (educated, non-Tump) population centers aren't in yet.

Hillary Clinton just told an audience in DETROIT MICHIGAN that the Obama economy is booming. Nobody is buying it, Madam Secretary.

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Important to note that the percentage reporting is number of precincts, not number of voters. The urban (educated, non-Tump) population centers aren't in yet.

Hillary Clinton just told an audience in DETROIT MICHIGAN that the Obama economy is booming. Nobody is buying it, Madam Secretary.

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The economy is better than Romney promised it would be at this point, no?

ETA: Romney promises to bring unemployment down to 6% – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
 
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1. U3 is a horseshit metric.
2. Romney is a turd.
3. Unemployment in Detroit is 25%.

I'm not criticising the Obama economy. I'm criticizing Hillary's tone-deaf messaging. That's not the message you deliver to that audience.
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If you're not criticizing the Obama economy, I'm not sure what your point is. Hillary is basically promising to continue it.

I'm going to continue beating the drum...people forget what Obama inherited. We now have 74 months of private sector job growth. Also, we've never once talked about the current president's junk. I think we're in a pretty good place.

ETA: I know you're going to talk about participation rates. It's a fair conversation, but I'll be waiting for you to mention the projections based on baby boomer retirements. Participation rates were always going to be dropping.
 
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