Would (Do) you let your kids play football

wizards8507

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Absolutely yes. As Lax said, there are risks in anything you do. I had two concussions and a skull fracture from riding my bike, but nothing worse than a sprained ankle from football. Obviously that's anecdotal and not statistical, but the concussion "problem" in football is a trumped-up frenzy by politicians and the media. All of the actual research shows there is statistically ZERO risk of developing CTE if you stop playing football or another sport after high school.
 

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Absolutely yes. As Lax said, there are risks in anything you do. I had two concussions and a skull fracture from riding my bike, but nothing worse than a sprained ankle from football. Obviously that's anecdotal and not statistical, but the concussion "problem" in football is a trumped-up frenzy by politicians and the media. All of the actual research shows there is statistically ZERO risk of developing CTE if you stop playing football or another sport after high school.

Water cooler fall onto the bench and getcha?
 

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The NFL won't give him the time of day. I don't know if this is because other helmet manufactures are pressuring the NFL to keep him out or if he just doesn't have the kind of money the NFL requires you to donate to be a sponsor.

This report looks like they have looked into it.

I think there's some politics going on IMO.

Football also teaches toughness and discipline unlike any other sport.
I would also try and teach my kids to wrestle and do martial arts.

I don't want to get into a debate, but after having four boys play football and wrestle, I can tell you football doesn't come close to teaching the toughness and discipline that wrestling does and football is still my favorite sport.

So why does no one talk about if they will "let" their kids play soccer?

Soccer isn't on TV all the time and rarely discussed on the local news or sports. Football is an easier target. Soccer moms don't want their kids to play football because of the risk of injury, so they make them play soccer. Now that data is coming out on soccer, moms are defensive and don't like to find out they made a bad decision?
 

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Water cooler fall onto the bench and getcha?
The worst one was actually pretty nasty. I was an idiot freshman playing tight end on the scout team and I tried to hurdle between two senior linebackers. Coach's advice: "Don't jump." Thanks coach.
 

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Absolutely yes. As Lax said, there are risks in anything you do. I had two concussions and a skull fracture from riding my bike, but nothing worse than a sprained ankle from football. Obviously that's anecdotal and not statistical, but the concussion "problem" in football is a trumped-up frenzy by politicians and the media. All of the actual research shows there is statistically ZERO risk of developing CTE if you stop playing football or another sport after high school.

Care to share that research (links?) as I haven't seen anything like that yet (not doubting you just want to read it).
 

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Men Who Played High School Contact Sports at Risk for Brain Injury

Researchers have discovered that a neurodegenerative disease linked to pro football players is also showing up in men who played high school contact sports.

Scientists from the Mayo Clinic have discovered that about one-third of men who played contact sports and whose brains had been donated to the Mayo Clinic brain bank had evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), which is caused by repeated brain trauma.

Symptoms of CTE include memory loss, aggression, suicidal thoughts, depression, and dementia, although the only way to officially diagnose CTE is after death, when brain tissue can be analyzed for an abnormal protein called Tau.

CTE has famously been linked to NFL players: The disease has shown up in several former NFL players who committed suicide, including Junior Seau and Terry Long. Family members of Frank Gifford, who died in August, recently announced that the former player suffered from CTE, and former Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre has said he suspects he may have the disease.


For the latest research, which was published in the journal Acta Neuropathologica, Mayo scientists analyzed clinical records of more than 1,700 cases in their brain bank.

Researchers found 66 men who had participated in contact sports during their youth. Of those men, 32 percent showed evidence of CTE.

By comparison, none of 198 brains of people who didn’t have documentation of participating in contact sports had CTE, including those of 66 women.

Lead study author Kevin Bieniek, a predoctoral student in the Mayo Graduate School’s Neurobiology of Disease program, tells Yahoo Health that the study was launched after he noticed that a man in the brain bank who had evidence of CTE had played high school football.

He calls the findings “surprising,” noting that CTE was discovered among former players of several contact sports such as football, boxing, wrestling, rugby, basketball, and baseball. While the overall numbers are low and therefore too small to show statistical significance, Bieniek notes that more football players had CTE than players of any other sport.



Not everyone who plays contact sports and suffers head injuries will develop CTE, but Bieniek and his team found two genetic markers that may increase a person’s risk of developing the disease.


According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it’s unknown how common or prevalent CTE is among the general population. However, a study of 3,439 NFL players from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health found that former players were more than three times more likely than the general population to develop a brain or nervous system disorder.

CTE was the subject of a major lawsuit against the NFL by thousands of former pro football players and their families. The 2013 settlement reportedly required the NFL to pay $765 million to fund medical exams, concussion-related compensation, and medical research for retired players and their families.

Naturally, this raises the question: Should parents discourage their kids from playing contact sports? Bieniek says no.

“There are so many positive benefits of sports,” he says. “I don’t know that there’s necessarily imminent threats of CTE, but the study is good in that it raises awareness both for scientists and the general public that CTE might be more common than we thought.”

However, he says the findings underscore moves that are already being made in contact sports — specifically, limiting head to head contact and encouraging players to wear better, more protective sports equipment.

Bieniek says scientists don’t currently know how many hits or what type of hits it takes until a person develops CTE, but it’s currently being studied. “Just awareness of this is really important,” he says.
 

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The worst one was actually pretty nasty. I was an idiot freshman playing tight end on the scout team and I tried to hurdle between two senior linebackers. Coach's advice: "Don't jump." Thanks coach.

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Care to share that research (links?) as I haven't seen anything like that yet (not doubting you just want to read it).
Most of the research that's been done focuses on college and professional athletes where the collisions are much more violent than what is seen in high school and younger. There are two studies that focus on youth sports.

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(12)00264-9/abstract

Our findings suggest that high school students who played American football from 1946 to 1956 did not have an increased risk of later developing dementia, PD, or ALS compared with non–football-playing high school males, despite poorer equipment and less regard for concussions compared with today and no rules prohibiting head-first tackling (spearing).

There's another study from 1990 in Neurology magazine, but I can't find the text online.

Jordan BD, et al. Head trauma and participation in contact sports as risk factors for Alzheimer's disease. Neurology 1990
 

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I think the comparison with soccer is not particularly valid in the sense that the majority of damage is linked (or at least suspected to result) with heading the ball which is easily mitigated in youth sports by modifying the rules against doing that behavior.

Again, people are suggesting that injury occurs with the more violent hits that happen in college/pro sports, yet we know that the brain of children is not fully developed, so does the hit need to be as violent at a younger age to cause permanent effects? There does not seem to be enough data or studies to determine this.
 

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I played football for 11 years. Never had a head injury, but did accumulate plenty of minor injuries and a couple of "major" ones (torn pec in offseason conditioning; blew something in my knee during a practice [they could never tell me what it was]).

Out of everything that I hurt over 11 years, the most painful injury, by far, was a bruised tailbone. No joke.
 
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