'12 WA RB Keivarae Russell (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Irish Insanity]

However, he's a little to verbally cocky

 

[koonja]

However, he's a little to verbally cocky

He is, especially in regards to his production pre-USC. But damn it this team needs that. They're otherwise too lifeless IMO.

 

[Luckylucci]

So basically KVR called his shot. That's pretty damn awesome

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Kelly ripped him after the big play to Juju on the first srice


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[ThePiombino]

Kelly ripped him after the big play to Juju on the first srice

Why? I thought he had good coverage.

 

[Luckylucci]

It was fairly good average, pretty much a perfect ball right in the pocket. Give up one big play for 10 tackles, 1 INT, and 1 pass breakup that leads to another INT. I'll take that trade off.

 

[ThePiombino]

It was fairly good average, pretty much a perfect ball right in the pocket. Give up one big play for 10 tackles, 1 INT, and 1 pass breakup that leads to another INT. I'll take that trade off.

Eight days a week.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Why? I thought he had good coverage.

Kelly said something like...if you don't turn your head around and look for the ball, we will put someone else in there.

That seems to have woken him up.


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[Te'o4Heisman]

Kelly said something like...if you don't turn your head around and look for the ball, we will put someone else in there.

That seems to have woken him up.


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"If you don't use your hands more and get better leverage to defeat blocks, and don't start wrapping up and making sure tackles rather than getting blown off the line of scrimmage, we will put someone else in there"....Hey a man can dream can't he?

Hopefully KVR turns the corner and kills it the rest of the season. USC is the one offense this year that actually scared the poop out of me. Our defense should be faster than everybody else we play, and equally as strong if not stronger.

 

[ThePiombino]

Kelly said something like...if you don't turn your head around and look for the ball, we will put someone else in there.

That seems to have woken him up.


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That seems to have been the cruzx of our dbacks since Walls. I'm glad to hear the DBs are being held accountable for this. It is such an easy thing to fix, never got why we always struggled with it.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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The KVR interception starts at about 2:09. He appears to me to be playing the ball (rare thing for an ND DB to do over the past 2 decades) as he plants a foot and leaps in the air over the receiver before plucking the ball out of the air.

I'd call that a great play and not "getting beat by the receiver".

But did the ball hit him in the head, or in the shoulder?

can't rep you more.

I can. Both of you.

I went back and found the play on youtube. It included a wide shot of the field from the snap. Russell's coverage was better than I thought.

You are the man!

Hey, Saturday night was a great win.

It would be even greater if SC wins this weekend!

Everyone take a break from the stresses of being an ND fan, and enjoy yourselves!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Cool, I can respect that response. Couldn't for the life of me figure out where you thought he got burned. I thought overall we had tight coverage for the most part of the entire game minus the trick plays and the play where Okwara was 20 yards downfield chasing a WR down..

Also thought it was weird on the WR screen that went for a long touchdown to Jackson that we didn't have anybody lined up over him at all. I get giving him a cushion with his speed, but that was a total formation failure to not have anybody lined up over him within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

A) Different views of that play looked really different, as it did live. I agree, sometimes the camera tells the truth, and sometimes it lies.

B) Kelly admitted in the press conference, (and if you look at the pre-play footage it bears this out,) that Kessler made an audible because he saw the Irish defense tipping a blitz too early! I find that the truth from what I saw. From every replay, it was clear that once the pass was completed, there was no one close to making the play.

 

[Irish Insanity]

He is, especially in regards to his production pre-USC. But damn it this team needs that. They're otherwise too lifeless IMO.

Swag when you're making plays or shit talking on the field is one thing. Telling the media you're an elite corner, or telling Max to thank you for the deflection that got him an INT, well those are not good things IMO.

He owned up to Kelly last week and said his prep was sub par. I like that. Maybe when Kelly got in to his shit on the sidelines it woke him up. It does look like he's not aggressive enough at times. Doesn't matter if you're running side by side with a WR when all your doing is running side by side. That changed for him during the USC game. Used his hands more. Bodied up to the WR more.

 

[Irish#1]

It's pretty simple. You can't rest on past accomplishments. If BK sits him, this raises questions with GM's and his draft stock drops considerably. Tough to make the NFL even without question marks. Kelly gave him enough time to get back to where he can be. Time to poop or get off the pot. Looks like he may have finally pooped and is ready.

 

[koonja]

Swag when you're making plays or shit talking on the field is one thing. Telling the media you're an elite corner, or telling Max to thank you for the deflection that got him an INT, well those are not good things IMO.

He owned up to Kelly last week and said his prep was sub par. I like that. Maybe when Kelly got in to his shit on the sidelines it woke him up. It does look like he's not aggressive enough at times. Doesn't matter if you're running side by side with a WR when all your doing is running side by side. That changed for him during the USC game. Used his hands more. Bodied up to the WR more.

I agree with you knowing that. I haven't seen the episode, was just speaking in general.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Im not going to rip into KVR but he is probably the only player that the Showtime series has not made me like more. His attitude and demeanor is not like someone like Manziel where it just puts me off him completely but its not like Day, Tillery, Kizer, Zaire or Corey either where you really love the player. KVR is a little too cocky and brash imo amd his production has not measured up to his attitude. I obviously hope he has a monster second half but whether or not he does I hope he does not make any more comments like he did before Clemson or asking Max to thank him.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

He always looks like the wheels are spinning while he is talking, doesn't it?

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

See I took the thank you comment as showing some love for each other after a huge play.

 

[Irish Insanity]

See I took the thank you comment as showing some love for each other after a huge play.

By itself, I agree. But pairing it with the comments to the media I just saw it as a bit to much outward public cockiness

 

[irish4ever]

Reps. Moose doesn't watch the same game the rest of us do apparently...Russell was toast and Joe Schmidt doesn't miss too many tackles and has good coverage skills in space.

As somebody else mentioned, Russell had good coverage on the big play on the 1st drive too...that was just a good QB and a good WR making a play that you can't really defense...sometimes it happens and you just tip your cap.

BK "ripped him" on the sidelines though for not looking for the ball on that play.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

By itself, I agree. But pairing it with the comments to the media I just saw it as a bit to much outward public cockiness

Maybe, but it was on the sideline. It seemed to be more 1 teammate busting the others chops.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Maybe, but it was on the sideline. It seemed to be more 1 teammate busting the others chops.

True

 

[fitz_bu47]

Corners and wide receivers are often, and need to be, cocky and have a short memory. I don't love it as a former LB/FB, but that's how the good ones rolled at every level I played at, and every level I watch now.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

am going to post this in about three zillion places.

Opponents are not targeting Joe Schmidt; they are targeting a defensive backfield guaranteed to fail if they see something that makes them have to rely on the system they have in place. Sound funny? The DB in particular cannot run the scheme they have been given. Not because it is two complex, but because they just don't hold the discipline. And it isn't everyone.

I talked to someone very knowledgeable on the topic, someone who has forgotten more than I will ever know and they stated this thesis when I asked. So what did I do? Get mad at them and argue against their point! Futilely!

Then I saw this article :

OFD Films: Chaos in the Notre Dame Secondary - One Foot Down

Final Thoughts

You want to know why the Notre Dame defense has been giving up big plays? The primary culprit has been a secondary that has too many mental errors and hasn't lived up to their potential. The plays featured here aren't the result of a scheme that's too complex or a former walk-on at middle linebacker. They are the result of errors from players that should know better.

Just a snippet! Read the rest, he compares the play of a couple safeties to that of Gong Show Contestants, and he had about as big of bone to pick over KVR's prima donna swan song, a la Pitt :

I have no idea why Max Redfield (yellow circle and question mark) would abandon his deep coverage responsibility on this play. No idea whatsoever. I simply don't have an explanation. Hence the question mark.

KVR is in my opinion, even worse (blue box). When he sees Boyd blow by him, he doesn't try and chase. Instead, he turns and starts pointing at Redfield (green arrow). I don't think I've ever seen that from a player. Are you kidding me?

There's no question Redfield screwed up. He should have stayed deep. But Russell should have been deep as well. More importantly, when he sees that Redfield is gone and the best receiver on the other team is running free, KVR should be putting his head down and sprinting to try and make a play. At least make an effort. Instead, he decides to literally point the finger at a teammate mid-play. Wow.

And it is interesting because Larz does weigh in on Schmidt, also : Verdict? A step slower this year, but look at the defensive backfield!

This is an even more important read for Irish fans :

OFD Films: Joe Schmidt Iso Cam - One Foot Down

 

[ShawneeIrish]

KVR imo has been the biggest disappointment this season. Has been interesting to see BVG harping about secondary on Showtime

 

[T Town Tommy]

KVR imo has been the biggest disappointment this season. Has been interesting to see BVG harping about secondary on Showtime

KVR hasn't played to the level expected for sure but he has time to turn around an otherwise average year. Let's hope he can do just that.

 

[ThePiombino]

KVR hasn't played to the level expected for sure but he has time to turn around an otherwise average year. Let's hope he can do just that.

Someone says this every week. Eventually we're going to run out of weeks lol

 

[Irish Insanity]

Someone says this every week. Eventually we're going to run out of weeks lol

Idc if we run outbofnweeks, as long as the recent outcomes continue.

 

[arndtjc]

'12 WA RB Keivarae Russell (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

KVR imo has been the biggest disappointment this season. Has been interesting to see BVG harping about secondary on Showtime

This dude has sealed two of the last three wins with HUGE interceptions. He started off a bit rusty, but has recovered since then and has had a damn good year


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[Buster Bluth]

This dude has sealed two of the last three wins with HUGE interceptions. He started off a bit rusty, but has recovered since then and has had a damn good year


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I think he's the embodiment of the defense as a whole. Very inconsistent, some great plays, some abysmal plays, mostly just above average.