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I don't think doing that the day of a debate would behoove her...
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I don't think doing that the day of a debate would behoove her...
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Let's play a game for tonight's debate:
Take a drink every time a candidate promises free shit for a certain protected class in America, while proclaiming anyone who opposes said action is hateful, racist, sexist, xenophobe, etc.
Take a drink every time a candidate promises free shit for a certain protected class in America, while proclaiming anyone who opposes said action is hateful, racist, sexist, xenophobe, etc.
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Our livers would freakin hate us...
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Correct. Same reason in 2012 the left went after and destroyed Herman Cain very early. He was their worst nightmare.
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I can't believe you would mention HRC's hooves! Sexist pig!
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Hillary responds to Donald Trump's plan to live-tweet tonight's #DemDebate twitchy.com
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the request of many, and even though I expect it to be a very boring two hours, I will be covering the Democrat Debate live on twitter!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/653868764094722048">October 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Plus...potential celebrity questions?
CNN Solicits Debate Questions From Celebrities - Breitbart
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the request of many, and even though I expect it to be a very boring two hours, I will be covering the Democrat Debate live on twitter!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/653868764094722048">October 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Plus...potential celebrity questions?
CNN Solicits Debate Questions From Celebrities - Breitbart
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting Fact: I’m less white than tonight’s DNC debate. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DemDebate?src=hash">#DemDebate</a></p>— Jim Gaffigan (@JimGaffigan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimGaffigan/status/654005497750769664">October 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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It was so pervasive that even Cain helped by being an incoherent clown!
The Dem debate is much more lively than I expected.
I particularly enjoyed the Glass Stegall discussion.
I like Webb but he shot himself in the foot arguing about the rules. He had a point but delivered it poorly.
Chaffee shot himself in both feet discussing why he voted to repeal Glass Stegall.
O!Malley had some hits and misses.
Bernie impressed me. I disagree with a lot of his positions such as college today is the equivalent of high school 50 years ago so it should be free. His statement is an indictment of the primary and secondary school systems yet he failed to say, "We need to fix our our education foundation so a college curriculum is not remedial but prepares students for careers and jobs where they can make a living wage."
I'm not a Hillary fan but short of the fact checkers review she's winning THE DEBATE hands down. The email issue is substantive but she handled the issue fairly well particularly considering Cooper's tenacity in pursuing the subject. She brought down those when she was asked if she wanted to make a rebuttal reply and she said succinctly, "No." She was well prepared for this forum.
I particularly enjoyed the Glass Stegall discussion.
I like Webb but he shot himself in the foot arguing about the rules. He had a point but delivered it poorly.
Chaffee shot himself in both feet discussing why he voted to repeal Glass Stegall.
O!Malley had some hits and misses.
Bernie impressed me. I disagree with a lot of his positions such as college today is the equivalent of high school 50 years ago so it should be free. His statement is an indictment of the primary and secondary school systems yet he failed to say, "We need to fix our our education foundation so a college curriculum is not remedial but prepares students for careers and jobs where they can make a living wage."
I'm not a Hillary fan but short of the fact checkers review she's winning THE DEBATE hands down. The email issue is substantive but she handled the issue fairly well particularly considering Cooper's tenacity in pursuing the subject. She brought down those when she was asked if she wanted to make a rebuttal reply and she said succinctly, "No." She was well prepared for this forum.
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Webb - Seems like a sensible Republican in the wrong debate. Like he could be on a Kasich ticket no problem. He's also getting no time to work and what time he's getting he's kinda squandering. He's my #2.
Clinton - is #2. As in pure shit. It's certainly clear she's very, very knowledgeable, but it's equally clear she's just a calculating politician. She's really really good at it. Her non-answer on "are you a third Obama term?" was telling. "Well yeah, I'm a woman!" (paraphrasing) was awful. She didn't know how to calculate that one in the moment and dodged it.
Chaffee - Seems like a nice guy. Also seems like a weird guy. He had a campaign implosion moment with the "my dad had just died...it was my first vote..." but there really isn't a campaign to implode. It's like if Rick Perry had his "oops" moment while having <1% support. The weird guy aspect crosses him off the VP list.
O'Malley - Seems like your regular politician offering bland bullshit ideas. Something about this guy is bad.
Sanders - I think he is crushing it. He hasn't dodged much, maybe the immigration part but that's it. Not coming off like too much of a populist in his statements because he's stating how he'd pay for it with an appreciable specificity (eg wall street speculation tax, raising SS caps, etc).
Clinton - is #2. As in pure shit. It's certainly clear she's very, very knowledgeable, but it's equally clear she's just a calculating politician. She's really really good at it. Her non-answer on "are you a third Obama term?" was telling. "Well yeah, I'm a woman!" (paraphrasing) was awful. She didn't know how to calculate that one in the moment and dodged it.
Chaffee - Seems like a nice guy. Also seems like a weird guy. He had a campaign implosion moment with the "my dad had just died...it was my first vote..." but there really isn't a campaign to implode. It's like if Rick Perry had his "oops" moment while having <1% support. The weird guy aspect crosses him off the VP list.
O'Malley - Seems like your regular politician offering bland bullshit ideas. Something about this guy is bad.
Sanders - I think he is crushing it. He hasn't dodged much, maybe the immigration part but that's it. Not coming off like too much of a populist in his statements because he's stating how he'd pay for it with an appreciable specificity (eg wall street speculation tax, raising SS caps, etc).
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Frank Luntz on Fox had a focus group of 28 Democrats. Roughly half were pro Hillary before the debate. After the debate the group was 3/4 Sanders.
Sanders highlight according to the meters was "Stop the talk about the damn e-mails." He scored in the 90's. Follow up comments noted this group saw other issues, jobs, economy, race, immigration, healthcare, etc., as being more important to them than national security matters.
The Dem focus group downgraded Webb and Chaffee.
Krauthammer thought Hillary was well prepared. He though Cooper asked tough questions BUT his tough questions were directed to each individual not to inspire combative behavior as they were with the Republican debate questions.
Sanders highlight according to the meters was "Stop the talk about the damn e-mails." He scored in the 90's. Follow up comments noted this group saw other issues, jobs, economy, race, immigration, healthcare, etc., as being more important to them than national security matters.
The Dem focus group downgraded Webb and Chaffee.
Krauthammer thought Hillary was well prepared. He though Cooper asked tough questions BUT his tough questions were directed to each individual not to inspire combative behavior as they were with the Republican debate questions.
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Very pleased with the level of actual debate and discussion going on. Loved Bernie shutting down the email issue. Webb is interedting. I don't know much about him.
Actually looking forward to the next one. I think Bernie is really showing well and I believe he means what he says.. Clinton is too but as Buster stated, she is a straight up politician. I know everything she says may in fact not be something she actually believes.
Actually looking forward to the next one. I think Bernie is really showing well and I believe he means what he says.. Clinton is too but as Buster stated, she is a straight up politician. I know everything she says may in fact not be something she actually believes.
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Pointing out that affirmative action screws poor whites is not something that Democrats want to hear today, because poor whites just aren't part of the Democratic program. They are not fashionable victims, and so their "lives" don't matter so much.
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Chaffee has no business on the stage.
I like Webb and believe he would appeal to sensible Independent voters, but he seems to have zero traction with most progressives. He was a little whiny about his time for a guy who has such little support. Although, in fairness he was getting hosed a bit.
Whether you like Hillary or not (I do not, particularly), she is a smooth, polished and intelligent politician. Her gimmicky focus about being the first woman president will, unfortunately, score points with female voters. As usual she said all the right things, whether she actually believed them or not.
O'Malley may be the most rehearsed and robotic candidate since Mitt Romney.
I think Bernie raised his profile tonight with progressives of all stripes. If he s going to win, he needs to peel off minority votes from Hillary. While he may have expanded his support some tonight, I'm not sure I heard much that made much of a dent with minority voters (bonus for keeping the pandering to a minimum). He did not do particularly well on guns, but I thought he was solid on every other issue. He killed it on climate change as a moral imperative.
It is clear why Hillary and Bernie are leading the field, and short of Biden throwing in his hat it will come down to this two. Hillary will get support from most of those who already support her, and Bernie will continue to grow his support, but will it be enough in the long run? I don't know ... I hope so.
I like Webb and believe he would appeal to sensible Independent voters, but he seems to have zero traction with most progressives. He was a little whiny about his time for a guy who has such little support. Although, in fairness he was getting hosed a bit.
Whether you like Hillary or not (I do not, particularly), she is a smooth, polished and intelligent politician. Her gimmicky focus about being the first woman president will, unfortunately, score points with female voters. As usual she said all the right things, whether she actually believed them or not.
O'Malley may be the most rehearsed and robotic candidate since Mitt Romney.
I think Bernie raised his profile tonight with progressives of all stripes. If he s going to win, he needs to peel off minority votes from Hillary. While he may have expanded his support some tonight, I'm not sure I heard much that made much of a dent with minority voters (bonus for keeping the pandering to a minimum). He did not do particularly well on guns, but I thought he was solid on every other issue. He killed it on climate change as a moral imperative.
It is clear why Hillary and Bernie are leading the field, and short of Biden throwing in his hat it will come down to this two. Hillary will get support from most of those who already support her, and Bernie will continue to grow his support, but will it be enough in the long run? I don't know ... I hope so.
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Yeah...we're discussing a debate. The last thing we want a is a bunch of opinions being spouted off.
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Sanders is under attack from the shrieking left for taking a federalist position on gun control. Such a position, of course, is "racist." Vermont and Baltimore have about the same population sizes. Does anybody want to compare their murder rates?
Free speech and reasoned argument are not part of the (Democratic) socialist program, either.
Free speech and reasoned argument are not part of the (Democratic) socialist program, either.
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Watched the debate with three others all independents....two voted both times for Obama and the other for the Republican candidates.
We were bored out of our minds and ended up turning it off. Sanders seemed to always go over his time and/or interject and never was criticized. Webb complained about his time and then would get cut off before he could finish his point. Hillary was Hillary. 60% on the stage have no shot so really a waste of time. Biden needs to #@$% or get off the pot soon.
I ended getting them to watch baseball (none like sports) because they said it was a more exciting alternative to the debate.
We were bored out of our minds and ended up turning it off. Sanders seemed to always go over his time and/or interject and never was criticized. Webb complained about his time and then would get cut off before he could finish his point. Hillary was Hillary. 60% on the stage have no shot so really a waste of time. Biden needs to #@$% or get off the pot soon.
I ended getting them to watch baseball (none like sports) because they said it was a more exciting alternative to the debate.