'16 MI DE Khalid Kareem (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

koonja · Oct 11, 2015

Luckylucci;1611877 [B said:
Wilt don't[/B] continues to say that he thinks Kareem signs with ND. Says he's waiting on one more piece of info before he changes his CB.

Provided we can flip Kareem and get Hayes, that's a pretty good DL haul.

Kareem
Hayes
Okwara
Ade
Jones
Kemp?

You all Sarked up or what?

Edit: I cannot bold on my mobile.

NDPhilly · Oct 12, 2015

Would rather have a DT and one DE then both Kareem and Hayes. Think Okwara will be a good one and we need DT depth more then DE.

ThePiombino · Oct 12, 2015

NDPhilly said:
Would rather have a DT and one DE then both Kareem and Hayes. Think Okwara will be a good one and we need DT depth more then DE.

Beggars can't be choosers. You take them both and you like it!

koonja · Oct 12, 2015

What's with this kid considering flipping to us from Bama? Ttown said he saw nothing on his Bama board about it. I checked their commit list to see if they added other DEs, but he's the only one in Bama's class (they have 3 DT'S committed). And with him originally being torn between Michigan and Bama?

Idk, I refuse to accept we pull both this guy from Bama and Hayes from USC when both are DEs lol.

To Philly's question, fwiw, he's listed at 6'4", 260 on 247. Perhaps he can be a swing man like Rochell.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2015

NDPhilly said:
Would rather have a DT and one DE then both Kareem and Hayes. Think Okwara will be a good one and we need DT depth more then DE.

Interesting because I actually thnk the opposite. Our DT depth is quite good, with a lot of eligibility. 4 deep at both positions with one graduation. 3 deep at both DE positions with one graduation.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2015

koonja said:
What's with this kid considering flipping to us from Bama? Ttown said he saw nothing on his Bama board about it. I checked their commit list to see if they added other DEs, but he's the only one in Bama's class (they have 3 DT'S committed). And with him originally being torn between Michigan and Bama?

Idk, I refuse to accept we pull both this guy from Bama and Hayes from USC when both are DEs lol.

Khalid Kareem and he's a big time academic kid as well. I think that might be coming into play here. We also were at one the point the leaders for him. However, word was we slow played him or at least didn't close the deal like we should have. Some lack of communication. So not a total shocker that this could occur.

NewBrunswickIrish · Oct 12, 2015

koonja said:
What's with this kid considering flipping to us from Bama? Ttown said he saw nothing on his Bama board about it. I checked their commit list to see if they added other DEs, but he's the only one in Bama's class (they have 3 DT'S committed). And with him originally being torn between Michigan and Bama?

Idk, I refuse to accept we pull both this guy from Bama and Hayes from USC when both are DEs lol.

To Philly's question, fwiw, he's listed at 6'4", 260 on 247. Perhaps he can be a swing man like Rochell.

I wouldn't be surprised if 2 of their DT recruits end up being ends in their 3-4. Both their ends starting now are over 300 pounds so I wouldn't be surprised if they foresee these kids listed as DTs as future ends. They also have better depth than ND at the position. Isn't Hand currently a backup there?

NDPhilly · Oct 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
Interesting because I actually thnk the opposite. Our DT depth is quite good, with a lot of eligibility. 4 deep at both positions with one graduation. 3 deep at both DE positions with one graduation.

I was taking into account our 2016 commits too which are all DEs it looks like. More then anything we just need impact players instead of bodies which Hayes and Kareem can be. Kareem looks like he can play DT and SDE looking at his highlight tape. Kinda wish we have waited on Jamir Jones. Think we could have gotten him or a similar player later in the cycle if needed.

Crazy Balki · Oct 12, 2015

NDPhilly said:
I was taking into account our 2016 commits too which are all DEs it looks like. More then anything we just need impact players instead of bodies which Hayes and Kareem can be. Kareem looks like he can play DT and SDE looking at his highlight tape. Kinda wish we have waited on Jamir Jones. Think we could have gotten him or a similar player later in the cycle if needed.

Normally I'd agree, but the staff saw something we didn't with Jamir and from what they've said over at ISD, Jamir has made a HUGE leap. He's bigger, faster, stronger and more natural a defender.

Ricochet · Oct 12, 2015

IMO if Kareem comes to ND, he ends up as a DT-3 tech. rather than as a SDE. I'm sure early if he impresses that he would be a D-Line swingman just to make him more valuable and to get him on the field more.

koonja · Oct 12, 2015

NDPhilly said:
Would rather have a DT and one DE then both Kareem and Hayes. Think Okwara will be a good one and we need DT depth more then DE.

Ye have little faith in how fat Longo can make people. Both of these guys could be DTs in the Longo program.

IrishFanJMercy · Oct 12, 2015

Don't you think Longo having guys gain wait is part of the problem? You see all these schools with 230 pound or 255 pound DE, why do we have guys that are pushing 300? Makes zero sense. I think if we let the guys keep muscle on and maintain their weight we could have a better pass rush?

dublinirish · Oct 12, 2015

IrishFanJMercy said:
Don't you think Longo having guys gain wait is part of the problem? You see all these schools with 230 pound or 255 pound DE, why do we have guys that are pushing 300? Makes zero sense. I think if we let the guys keep muscle on and maintain their weight we could have a better pass rush?

WTF are you on about

koonja · Oct 12, 2015

FYI - My Longo comment was just a joke. Mostly a joke anyways.

Veritate Duce Progredi · Oct 12, 2015

Ricochet said:
IMO if Kareem comes to ND, he ends up as a DT-3 tech. rather than as a SDE. I'm sure early if he impresses that he would be a D-Line swingman just to make him more valuable and to get him on the field more.

I'd much rather have Kareem as an SDE. It is so important to hold/collapse the edge on the strong side in this scheme. If you are able to do that, athletic linebackers can clean up. We have enough DT/NTs on this team: Jarron Jones (albeit coming back from injury, Tillery, Cage, Mokwuah, Dew-Treadway, Elijah Taylor, Tiassum, Jay Hayes (maybe), Jonathon Bonner (tweener).

Veritate Duce Progredi · Oct 12, 2015

dublinirish said:
WTF are you on about

Yeah, WTF are you on about?

Seriously, he's a troll or he's one of the saddest people I've ever encountered on a message board. Literally nothing is correct. Look at his posting history, if you can find him making 3 positive posts in the last 30, I'll be impressed.

Rizzophil · Oct 12, 2015

This guy is huge. I almost certain he was at Michigan game last year as an unofficial visitor. He dwarfed everyone. Seriously as big as Tillery.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2015

Rizzophil said:
This guy is huge. I almost certain he was at Michigan game last year as an unofficial visitor. He dwarfed everyone. Seriously as big as Tillery.

No, not really. He's around 6'3-6'4 and 250-260. Tillery is 6'6 310.

Ricochet · Oct 12, 2015

Veritate Duce Progredi said:
I'd much rather have Kareem as an SDE. It is so important to hold/collapse the edge on the strong side in this scheme. If you are able to do that, athletic linebackers can clean up. We have enough DT/NTs on this team: Jarron Jones (albeit coming back from injury, Tillery, Cage, Mokwuah, Dew-Treadway, Elijah Taylor, Tiassum, Jay Hayes (maybe), Jonathon Bonner (tweener).

As I said I think early on he's a swing player a SDE and DT-3tech but ultimately I think he ends as the pass rushing DT in the same mold as Day.

Rizzophil · Oct 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
No, not really. He's around 6'3-6'4 and 250-260. Tillery is 6'6 310.

I understand. I'm with you. But when I've stood next to players...Kareem was just different. Going to be a beast

IrishFanJMercy · Oct 12, 2015

dublinirish said:
WTF are you on about

Didn't Trumbetti play last year quite a bit and had a few sacks, not to mention he was close to sacking the QB more? Where has that been this year?

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2015

Expectation at Irish247 is he visits this weekend.

NDdomer2 · Oct 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
Expectation at Irish247 is he visits this weekend.

Wow what a change of events for DE recruiting this week.

koonja · Oct 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
Expectation at Irish247 is he visits this weekend.

Wow that'd be huge. Hope it happens. Thanks for the updates.

Big23Head · Oct 12, 2015

Anna has made a couple comments about Kareem. Saying ND is very much in it and possible visit soon as well.

This weekend would be great

Calabrese's People · Oct 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
No, not really. He's around 6'3-6'4 and 250-260. Tillery is 6'6 310.

Terry is carrying around a lot of head-weight...

PANDFAN · Oct 13, 2015

per loy---he was told he is def coming this weekend...loy is just double checking w/ KK himself

Big23Head · Oct 13, 2015

PANDFAN said:
per loy---he was told he is def coming this weekend...loy is just double checking w/ KK himself

Scout was reporting similar, saying the visit details were going to get handled today.

dublinirish · Oct 13, 2015

His FHH squad are 6-1 on the season and 6-0 in league play. He's been playing both ways (OT and DE).

ACamp1900 · Oct 13, 2015

I get these terrible shakes any time I think of a bunch of big time recruits coming for the USC game... bad memories.

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