[NCAAF] vBook: CFP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

[NDohio]

To be fair, that's not their plan. They play in the B1G, which isn't their fault. And, as bad as Va Tech is this year, they are generally a very good team. They also scheduled Notre Dame for an upcoming series.

Their OOC is getting better, but for a while now it has been fairly weak. Of course, my frustration of having to see tOSU - The First True National Champions all over my FB and Twitter exaggerates the weakness of their schedule in my mind.

 

[Woneone]

C. Jones didn't play in the IU game.

It's so frustrating to watch this plan of play a weak schedule, improve every week, and make a statement at the end of the season while ND continues to schedule too many good to very good teams and lose a couple of games and not have a shot at a title. UGH...

And, this will not wear off for a while. The OSU fans will be insufferable until a new champion is crowned.

I know, but the 3rd string Quarterback for IU started the game (if that was what the Jones comment was referencing).

I totally agree. I made the comment, and stand by it, after the FSU game (before our collapse), we were a better team. The end of the year, or more specifically, the last 3 games, OSU got hot.

They played patsy's, got into the play-off and got on a roll.

 

[GoldenDomer]

SIAP. 89 fires set...that's crazy. I was in Lawrence after KU won the National Championship in 2008. I think there were only 1 or 2 arrests with 40,000 on Massachusetts St. It was a jubilant crowd, not an unruly one. I just don't understand this.

Police use pepper spray to subdue Ohio State scene - ESPN

I read that, and besides the fires, it doesn't seem too crazy. Nobody flipping cop cars or anything. Seems like it was cordial as possible once the police arrived.

 

[koonja]

Remember when we beat Michigan and thought that we were aweome, and OSU lost to VT on the same night, and we wondered if we'd get another shot at Justin Hilliard? LOL at us.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Worried about Kraemer and his chances of jumping ship after that performance put on by OSU's O-line. Eichenberg just became a lot harder poach.

 

[Rhode Irish]

SHOW ME THE MONEY before interest pays out please.

 

[palinurus]

I know, but the 3rd string Quarterback for IU started the game (if that was what the Jones comment was referencing).

I totally agree. I made the comment, and stand by it, after the FSU game (before our collapse), we were a better team. The end of the year, or more specifically, the last 3 games, OSU got hot.

They played patsy's, got into the play-off and got on a roll.

This is what grates on me the most: that these guys intentionally schedule bottom feeders, which combined with a weak conference schedule, guarantees a good record. So if the committee doesn't apply real scrutiny and operates on a, "well, 12-1 is a good record! and they're from the BIG TEN, which is a "POWER FIVE" conference!!!" level of analysis, then they have an advantage.

Urban is viper, with ethics that would embarrass a gutter-cleaner scam artist, but he's a good coach, and he can win a couple of games in a row, given enough time and a few breaks. So, I could have predicted (and did) that they'd do well in a playoff.

The point is, they shouldn't have MADE the playoffs. If the committee doesn't do a better job of picking -- and it's a whorish, political process operated by people who probably watch fewer football games than all of us do (or if they do, it doesn't affect their political calculation) -- then it's an unjust system. And this makes all the Ohio State boasting even more unbearable.

 

[koonja]

This is what grates on me the most: that these guys intentionally schedule bottom feeders, which combined with a weak conference schedule, guarantees a good record. So if the committee doesn't apply real scrutiny and operates on a, "well, 12-1 is a good record! and they're from the BIG TEN, which is a "POWER FIVE" conference!!!" level of analysis, then they have an advantage.

Urban is viper, with ethics that would embarrass a gutter-cleaner scam artist, but he's a good coach, and he can win a couple of games in a row, given enough time and a few breaks. So, I could have predicted (and did) that they'd do well in a playoff.

The point is, they shouldn't have MADE the playoffs. If the committee doesn't do a better job of picking -- and it's a whorish, political process operated by people who probably watch fewer football games than all of us do (or if they do, it doesn't affect their political calculation) -- then it's an unjust system. And this makes all the Ohio State boasting even more unbearable.

I have to disagree. However they derived at it, OSU was one of the top 4 teams and they got that right.

 

[RDU Irish]

TCU deserved it more than them. I think any team in the top 10 could have made a run at it. Lots of parity this year showing the importance of OSU/SEC scheduling - just get in and figure it out from there.

 

[MNIrishman]

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I have to disagree. However they derived at it, OSU was one of the top 4 teams and they got that right.

Deserving vs. Best argument. OSU showed they were the best, but even as an OSU guy born and raised in Columbus, I gotta say that spot should have gone to TCU. Saying they deserved to be there because they won is an ex post facto argument fallacy.

 

[NDohio]

Deserving vs. Best argument. OSU showed they were the best, but even as an OSU guy born and raised in Columbus, I gotta say that spot should have gone to TCU. Saying they deserved to be there because they won is an ex post facto argument fallacy.

I really didn't want OSU to win this thing - or even get in. I do agree that TCU deserved a spot, but I think FSU should have been the team left out. As ridiculous as that sounds...

 

[koonja]

Deserving vs. Best argument. OSU showed they were the best, but even as an OSU guy born and raised in Columbus, I gotta say that spot should have gone to TCU. Saying they deserved to be there because they won is an ex post facto argument fallacy.

I would have put in TCU, but their criteria is 'best team'... And even though we may not have thought OSU was better, they did get it right obviously. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, it's not like they knew and they gave OSU the benefit of the doubt, but they turned out right to have them in.

 

[palinurus]

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I have to disagree. However they derived at it, OSU was one of the top 4 teams and they got that right.

On what do you base this opinion? On what basis did Ohio State linger in, essentially, the same spot in the Top Ten after sloppy wins against Penn State and Minnesota, all while playing in a conference that had exactly ONE quality OOC win (Indiana beating Missouri)?

 

[palinurus]

I would have put in TCU, but their criteria is 'best team'... And even though we may not have thought OSU was better, they did get it right obviously. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, it's not like they knew and they gave OSU the benefit of the doubt, but they turned out right to have them in.

See, them winning it all isn't proof they should have made it in the first place. They are two different things.

 

[Woneone]

Deserving vs. Best argument. OSU showed they were the best, but even as an OSU guy born and raised in Columbus, I gotta say that spot should have gone to TCU. Saying they deserved to be there because they won is an ex post facto argument fallacy.

Exactly. If the NCAA BB Tourney is just 16 teams picked by a committee last year, UCONN probably doesn't get in. It doesn't diminish they're championship, it's just they wouldn't have deserved a spot given that point in time.

Recruiting guru's can chime in, but I don't think we're in much danger of OSU stealing any of our current recruits. The momentum will be felt next year, but it can also be fleeting, or even stymied on our end with guys we're pursuing, if we just do well next season.

 

[koonja]

On what do you base this opinion? On what basis did Ohio State linger in, essentially, the same spot in the Top Ten after sloppy wins against Penn State and Minnesota, all while playing in a conference that had exactly ONE quality OOC win (Indiana beating Missouri)?

See, them winning it all isn't proof they should have made it in the first place. They are two different things.

I'm just saying that even if they blindly/with bias put OSU into the playoff, they can point to the fact that they were the best team in the end. That was their criteria and since it turned out right on for OSU, IDK how we can argue. Even if it was dumb luck that lead them to choose OSU.

Again, going in, I do not think they were just because of the Wisco game, but it turned out they actually were.

 

[Irish#1]

Because they were that much more physically superior than Oregon. Unfortunately, you can't count on that.

Can you spell PED?