NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

[Irish YJ]

Well bama would have 2 losses if miss st is champ, well i assume anyways. I guess if bama beat miss st but then miss st beat ole miss, a tie breaker might go to miss st.

In that scenario Bama would all but be assured of a slot in the 4....

 

[IrishLax]

It's definitely heavy PAC12, which is why I've always asserted PAC12 is getting one in almost surely if its a close call.

Condi has worked at Stanford for a very long time and roots for them (including over ND). Oliver Luck also has ties to Stanford. So Stanford effectively has 3 reps on the committee.

 

[gkIrish]

Pat Haden has every incentive to support us. The higher we are ranked, the better it makes USC look if they beat us.

 

[Irish YJ]

It's definitely heavy PAC12, which is why I've always asserted PAC12 is getting one in almost surely if its a close call.

Condi has worked at Stanford for a very long time and roots for them (including over ND). Oliver Luck also has ties to Stanford. So Stanford effectively has 3 reps on the committee.

Yep. Didn't know about Luck. Stanford ties could however benefit us in some ways depending on the individuals.

What will be interesting to me, is will we see any SEC "hate" from some of these guys.

LAX do you know what the USAT guy has traditionally done, what conference he's gravitated to, etc..

 

[Irish2155]

It's definitely heavy PAC12, which is why I've always asserted PAC12 is getting one in almost surely if its a close call.

Condi has worked at Stanford for a very long time and roots for them (including over ND). Oliver Luck also has ties to Stanford. So Stanford effectively has 3 reps on the committee.

Stanford has two losses, they'll have to wait til next year.

Edit: three losses.

 

[Rocknes Ghost]

Does anyone know if the committee changes every year? Are these the folks that will comprise the majority of the committee for awhile? Or will they try to get fresh blood in there?

Also, I know a close loss to undefeated FSU is the accepted best case scenario for ND, but does anyone think a FSU loss to Louisville could be a better outcome for the Irish? Would this open up one more spot for ND and do you think we would get in over a 1 loss FSU (assuming they lose to Louisville and we beat Louisville and end the year with 1 loss)?

 

[Irish YJ]

the weeks to come...

the weeks to come...

MissSt - Ark, UT Martin, @Bama, Vand, @ OleMiss, SEC Champ vs UGA?

FSU - @Louis, Virg, @Miami, BC, UF, ACC Champ vs Duke or one of five current 2-loss in conf teams

OleMiss - Aub, Presb, @ Ark, MissSt , SEC Champ vs UGA?

Bama - @LSU, MissSt, W.Car, Aub, SEC Champ vs UGA?

Auburn - @OleMiss, TAMU, @UGA, Samf, @Bama, SEC Champ vs UGA?

Oregon - Stanf, @Utah, Colo, @OreSt, Pac12 Champ vs ASU/AZ/Ut

ND - @Navy, @ASU, NW, Louis, @USC

MichSt - OhioSt, @Mary, Rut, @PSU, Big10 Champ vs Neb/Min/Iowa/Wis

UGA - UF, @KY, Aub, CSU, GT

TCU - @WVU, KanSt, @Kan, @TX, IowaSt

KanSt - OKSt, @TCU, @WVU, Kans, @Baylor

Baylor - Kans, @OK, OKSt, TexT, KanSt

OhioSt - IL, @MichSt, @Minn, IU, UM, Big10 Champ vs Neb/Min/Iowa/Wis

ASU - Ut, ND, @OreSt, WSU, @AZ, PAC12 Champ vs Ore/Stan?

AZ - @UCLA, Colo, Wash, @Ut, ASU, PAC12 Champ vs Ore/Stan?

Neb - PU, @Wis, Minn, @Iowa, Big10 Champ vs MichSt/OhSt

Utah - @ASU, Ore, @Stan, AZ, @Col Pac12 Champ vs Oregon/Stan?

left out ECU and Marshall

The "win out and we're in" is applicable to a lot of the teams above. Many have tougher roads than ND.

 

[Irish YJ]

Stanford has two losses, they'll have to wait til next year.

Edit: three losses.

LAX is talking about their potential lean to PAC12 schools, not Stanford.

 

[Irish YJ]

Does anyone know if the committee changes every year? Are these the folks that will comprise the majority of the committee for awhile? Or will they try to get fresh blood in there?

Also, I know a close loss to undefeated FSU is the accepted best case scenario for ND, but does anyone think a FSU loss to Louisville could be a better outcome for the Irish? Would this open up one more spot for ND and do you think we would get in over a 1 loss FSU (assuming they lose to Louisville and we beat Louisville and end the year with 1 loss)?

Not really. A close FSU loss to the Cardinal on a BS call might be good for the heart, and probably not be so bad, but I'd prefer FSU stay unbeaten for SOS. We just need to beat the Cardinal by more than FSU IMO.

 

[Crazy Balki]

LAX is talking about their potential lean to PAC12 schools, not Stanford.

Hard to believe that they'd be keen on picking teams that they'd generally despise. I'm pretty sure that those with Stanford ties have less than a "warm and fuzzy" feeling about Oregon. Conference bias aside, I'm pretty sure they'd think twice.

 

[Irish YJ]

Hard to believe that they'd be keen on picking teams that they'd generally despise. I'm pretty sure that those with Stanford ties have less than a "warm and fuzzy" feeling about Oregon. Conference bias aside, I'm pretty sure they'd think twice.

Conference unity transcends despising your conference rivals. If you're Pac12, you want to see participation from the Pac12

 

[IrishLax]

Conference unity transcends despising your conference rivals. If you're Pac12, you want to see participation from the Pac12

Yup, same reason SEC fans chant "S-E-C" even though they're supposed to be "rivals" with other teams. Only very rarely is hate > conference unity and that's with Auburn-Alabama, Michigan-Ohio State, etc.

 

[irishfan]

I think we're #6 or #7. I think Miss State, FSU, Bama, Auburn, Oregon are guaranteed to be ahead of us. Ole Miss will be 50/50. I think we're ahead of any other 1-loss team.

 

[Kak7304]

It's a shame Taylor Kelly was hurt earlier in the year, especially during their only loss. Would have been nice to have a showdown with another undefeated team to propel us in the rankings. A win over 10-15 ASU will be good but could have been a win over a top ten team.

On another note, there's a potential for everyone in the SEC to end with 2 losses. Does a 2 loss SEC champ have a seat at the table if everyone else has one loss? Would love to see a scenario with undefeated FSU, 1 loss MSU, Oregon, and ND with all these top SEC teams with 2 losses.

 

[ickythump1225]

I agree. I don't think we have any good wins and the committee isn't going to give as much weight to "looking good against FSU" as many people think.

I want you to name for me right now Alabama's marquee win this year. While you're at it name MSU's "good" win. Or Georgia's.

 

[irishfan]

I want you to name for me right now Alabama's marquee win this year. While you're at it name MSU's "good" win. Or Georgia's.

Bama has WVU.

MSU has Nebraska.

Georgia has Clemson.

All teams ranked ahead of Stanford.

Personally, I'd take Stanford on a neutral field against any of those three teams, but the committee probably wont feel the same way.

Plus, what is our 2nd best win right now? A 7-point win over 4-4 UNC?

 

[ickythump1225]

Bama has WVU.

MSU has Nebraska.

Georgia has Clemson.

All teams ranked ahead of Stanford.

Personally, I'd take Stanford on a neutral field against any of those three teams, but the committee probably wont feel the same way.

Plus, what is our 2nd best win right now? A 7-point win over 4-4 UNC?

WVU? Clemson? Nebraska? These aren't wins that will put teams ahead of us into the playoffs.

 

[Cackalacky]

WVU? Clemson? Nebraska? These aren't wins that will put teams ahead of us into the playoffs.

Yes they will as of right now and for the reasons stated above. We have no quality wins so far. That will probably not be the case over NDs next five games but right now our SOS is not great.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

My biggest concern is that the committee is made up of:

5 AD's, one from each of the Power 5 conferences

Osborne who is strongly affiliated with a B-Ten school, and has history in the Big 12

Condi Rice has ties to the Pac 12 with her current position

I just worry that those above will ardent supporters of conference winners; maybe not Condi so much.


Then we have:

Tranghese who is probably still pissed that ND never joined the Big East for football (and blames ND for that conference losing teams like BC and Miami)

Ty for obvious reasons


Figure Lt General Gould will stick up for Independents and non-power 5 conference teams. No idea on Wieberg and Jernstedt.

 

[irishfan]

WVU? Clemson? Nebraska? These aren't wins that will put teams ahead of us into the playoffs.

How do you think they're going to rank these teams? It's by what they've done up to this point. Right now, we haven't done much besides lose a close game. Stanford was a solid win IMO. But they're a 5-3 unranked team who we beat by 3 at home. We don't have any other good wins, or really anything close to it. I'll take Bama's 59-point win versus A&M over our 7-point win versus UNC.

USC isn't looking like its going to be a good win. We're looking at the very real possibility at the end of the year of going 11-1 with our 2nd best win being over a 7-5 team (Stanford or USC). I wouldn't trust the committee to rank us over any 1-loss Power 5 team if that is the case.

 

[phork]

BCS Guru now the Playoff Guru has ND as #4 with MissSt #1, FSU #2 and Oregon #3.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Who cares who our best wins are now? We still have ASU, USC, and Louisville on the board. If we win out our 2nd best win, Stanford, Louisville, or USC, will be better than a lot of teams'. Not to mention we have without a doubt the "best" "loss".

 

[gkIrish]

Who cares who our best wins are now? We still have ASU, USC, and Louisville on the board. If we win out our 2nd best win, Stanford, Louisville, or USC, will be better than a lot of teams'. Not to mention we have without a doubt the "best" "loss".

Stanford, Louisville, and USC will all have 4-6 losses this year assuming we beat them all. I'm really worried about our SOS compared to a 1 or 2-loss Oregon, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, etc.

I've actually wondered whether a Louisville win over FSU may be better for us in the long run. Would give us another opportunity to beat a top 25 team and the committee would arguably put us in ahead of a 1-loss FSU team considering how close we played them.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

4 loss USC & 4 loss Stanford are better than most 2 loss and 3 loss teams.

 

[ickythump1225]

Yes they will as of right now and for the reasons stated above. We have no quality wins so far. That will probably not be the case over NDs next five games but right now our SOS is not great.

Who cares about right now? At the end of the season no one is going to argue for MSU over because they beat Nebraska. Alabama won't be propelled in on the strength of their mediocre showing against WVU. People are getting out of control with their worry over the playoffs. We don't have any quality wins? So what. Who does other that Oregon and Miss St.? Clemson is garbage, WVU is mediocre, and Nebraska is okay but who have they played? We're not going to get shut out of the playoffs at the end of the year because MSU beat Nebraska this year.

 

[Cackalacky]

Who cares about right now? At the end of the season no one is going to argue for MSU over because they beat Nebraska. Alabama won't be propelled in on the strength of their mediocre showing against WVU. People are getting out of control with their worry over the playoffs. We don't have any quality wins? So what. Who does other that Oregon and Miss St.? Clemson is garbage, WVU is mediocre, and Nebraska is okay but who have they played? We're not going to get shut out of the playoffs at the end of the year because MSU beat Nebraska this year.

You lost me at Who cares. Not worth the effort.

 

[Wild Bill]

4 loss USC & 4 loss Stanford are better than most 2 loss and 3 loss teams.

Ucla will give usc their fifth or sixth loss. UNC has had a couple good weeks. Maybe they can make a run for us.

 

[Cackalacky]

Ucla will give usc their fifth or sixth loss. UNC has had a couple good weeks. Maybe they can make a run for us.

Yep. It's quite possible the majority of our opponents will be sub .500 records if we win out.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

USC and UCLA will be very close. Both teams are about equal.

 

[ickythump1225]

You lost me at Who cares. Not worth the effort.

Oh yeah you're right, we should totally concern ourselves with what the playoffs would like if the season ended today. Or maybe we can play the fun game of "project every other 1 loss team to win out and worry about getting left out in the cold." I just don't really care what the voters would do now because we still have 5 games left. If we win out I like our odds of getting in because it would be a minor miracle for their to be this large glut of 1 loss or less teams at the end of the season. Auburn was ranked 13th at this time last season! If we win out we won't get shut out because Alabama beat WVU opening night of the season.