Tony Stewart runs over driver

[twig21]

My God, do you guys not watch racing, no driver stays in his car after a wreck unless he is hurt. They all get out immediately. That reasoning is like saying when a guy gets killed in a crash he shouldn't have climbed into the car. The entire sport is dangerous and they both showed reckless behavior, and it turned out to be a tragedy.

 

[Irish Insanity]

My God, do you guys not watch racing, no driver stays in his car after a wreck unless he is hurt. They all get out immediately. That reasoning is like saying when a guy gets killed in a crash he shouldn't have climbed into the car. The entire sport is dangerous and they both showed reckless behavior, and it turned out to be a tragedy.

Your point is valid, but he didn't just get out and wait by his car. He walked down the track towards the circling cars looking for Tony.

 

[johnnycando]

My God, do you guys not watch racing, no driver stays in his car after a wreck unless he is hurt. They all get out immediately. That reasoning is like saying when a guy gets killed in a crash he shouldn't have climbed into the car. The entire sport is dangerous and they both showed reckless behavior, and it turned out to be a tragedy.

I'm watching racing right now.

Booyah!

No one has ran out on the track yet! Lol.

No mad finger pointing and dumbass behavior yet...

 

[twig21]

Your point is valid, but he didn't just get out and wait by his car. He walked down the track towards the circling cars looking for Tony.

I totally agree, for sure he was waiting for Tony. I'm not condoning his behavior, in fact I hate when drivers do it. But he's not the only one, it happens far to often. His actions pissed off a already hotheaded Stewart. This is a result of how drivers behave now a days. I guess the main point I've tried to make is that it's not only the kids fault and it was typical behavior. This is why you always see staff pulling drivers away. Unfortunately not enough intervention to keep the kid far enough away.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm watching racing right now douche.

Booyah!

No one has ran out on the track yet! Lol.

No mad finger pointing and dumbass behavior yet...

Yet.

.

 

[johnnycando]

Fair point, but if Tony Stewart wasn't such an ahole, you could probably say the same thing. He may not have intended to hit him, but he at least intended to do something by driving closer to him than necessary IMO.

So who exhibited more careless behavior?

Rhetorical question.

 

[NDBoiler]

So who exhibited more careless behavior?

Rhetorical question.

That's a good question, I don't know. I was just trying to point out that both parties share some degree of responsibility for the tragedy occurring, not just a one sided incident IMO.

 

[johnnycando]

That's a good question, I don't know. I was just trying to point out that both parties share some degree of responsibility for the tragedy occurring, not just a one sided incident IMO.

I would never leave the discretion to a room full of spectators as to whether or not MY wasted life was my fault or not.

 

[twig21]

So who exhibited more careless behavior?

Rhetorical question.

Hmmm...tough question. Too hard to answer. One was on a track defenseless with 500hp machines going by and one was in the machine and sounded like he revved it a little.
Tough call. I bet the kid has done it before so he never felt in danger. Tony has buzzed a few himself. I will say this, they were both used to being reckless.

 

[johnnycando]

Hmmm...tough question. Too hard to answer. One was on a track defenseless with 500hp machines going by and one was in the machine and sounded like he revved it a little.
Tough call. I bet the kid has done it before so he never felt in danger. Tony has buzzed a few himself. I will say this, they were both used to being reckless.

Wrong.

The dead guy exhibited more careless behavior.

Care less.

If Jimmy would have jumped out of his car, tackled him, then they both got killed, well then I'd agree with you.

Jimmy may not have yielded appropriately. I'll agree. That's assuming he saw him. But he was secure and safe inside. His life was protected.

I will give the deceased credit for not removing the helmet. Must have been other trunk internal injuries that took him, rather than a head injury.

 

[johnnycando]

I'm really hoping JJ and the 48 make it through by other drivers having to pit for fuel.

 

[NDBoiler]

I would never leave the discretion to a room full of spectators as to whether or not MY wasted life was my fault or not.

I agree completely. I think we've all probably made some split second decisions fueled by emotion that potentially could have allowed for that debate though, don't you?

 

[johnnycando]

Damn someone tapped JJ's car.

Note, Jimmy still in vehicle.

 

[johnnycando]

I agree completely. I think we've all probably made some split second decisions fueled by emotion that potentially could have allowed for that debate though, don't you?

We're all here. So null in void.

I cannot recall ever trusting a driver in a 25 mph zone not to hit me, much less a sprint car on a dirt track. My kids aren't allowed to ride bikes in the streets like most nowadays. I make them use sidewalks, like my parents and their parents before them. Instead of "bike zones."

You can't trust some random driver to not be on drugs or alcohol. Or texting. Turning the radio dial. Etc.

That would be careless. Care less.

I wonder if him not taking off his helmet kept him in the thought maybe he was more invincible than he was, or kept him into thinking he was still somewhat in a car...?

 

[twig21]

We're all here. So null in void.

I cannot recall ever trusting a driver in a 25 mph zone not to hit me, much less a sprint car on a dirt track. My kids aren't allowed to ride bikes in the streets like most nowadays. I make them use sidewalks, like my parents and their parents before them. Instead of "bike zones."

You can't trust some random driver to not be on drugs or alcohol. Or texting. Turning the radio dial. Etc.

That would be careless. Care less.

I wonder if him not taking off his helmet kept him in the thought maybe he was more invincible than he was, or kept him into thinking he was still somewhat in a car...?

I think a driver can trust a fellow professional driver a little more than we could trust a someone on a public road. Maybe I saw it differently, it didn't seem to me like he walked down the track. And during a caution most cars go to the bottom if a wreck occurs up top.

 

[NDBoiler]

We're all here. So null in void.

I cannot recall ever trusting a driver in a 25 mph zone not to hit me, much less a sprint car on a dirt track. My kids aren't allowed to ride bikes in the streets like most nowadays. I make them use sidewalks, like my parents and their parents before them. Instead of "bike zones."

You can't trust some random driver to not be on drugs or alcohol. Or texting. Turning the radio dial. Etc.

That would be careless. Care less.

I wonder if him not taking off his helmet kept him in the thought maybe he was more invincible than he was, or kept him into thinking he was still somewhat in a car...?

To the bolded, I think maybe you were misunderstanding my point. The fact that we're all still here means we were just lucky our situation didn't turn out like that driver's, so not sure how that would be null and void to my point.

 

[NDBoiler]

Damn someone tapped JJ's car.

Note, Jimmy still in vehicle.

I think you're trolling here Johnny. You can't tell me that it doesn't happen occasionally. See Kurt Busch in this video at about the 10:30 mark for example:

The 10 Wildest Moments in NASCAR (SPEED) - YouTube

I'm not saying that it is the right thing to do by any means, but it illustrates my earlier point that people make poor decisions based on emotion sometimes, and I think both Stewart AND Ward made poor decisions. The result was sadly an unfortunate tragedy.

 

[johnnycando]

I think a driver can trust a fellow professional driver a little more than we could trust a someone on a public road. Maybe I saw it differently, it didn't seem to me like he walked down the track. And during a caution most cars go to the bottom if a wreck occurs up top.

That's a good point.

I can agree on the trust thing.

Solid view there.

 

[johnnycando]

I think you're trolling here Johnny. You can't tell me that it doesn't happen occasionally. See Kurt Busch in this video at about the 10:30 mark for example:

The 10 Wildest Moments in NASCAR (SPEED) - YouTube

I'm not saying that it is the right thing to do by any means, but it illustrates my earlier point that people make poor decisions based on emotion sometimes, and I think both Stewart AND Ward made poor decisions. The result was sadly an unfortunate tragedy.

I'm really not actually.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else a young guy with a great future died.

Sorry I'm coming off a little strong.

 

[twig21]

I'm really not actually.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else a young guy with a great future died.

Sorry I'm coming off a little strong.

No worries, I think the nature of this tragic story gets us all worked up.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I'm watching racing right now.

Booyah!

No one has ran out on the track yet! Lol.

No mad finger pointing and dumbass behavior yet...

You must not have been watching Nascar.

When the bad wreck happened with Newman and idk the other dudes name. Newman exited his car and withing 60 seconds or so walked down the track to the other car and checked on the guy.

Boooyah!

 

[johnnycando]

You must not have been watching Nascar.

When the bad wreck happened with Newman and idk the other dudes name. Newman exited his car and withing 60 seconds or so walked down the track to the other car and checked on the guy.

Boooyah!

No I saw that.

Way different circumstance then walking down to traffic. Drivers weren't swerving to miss him amigo.

Apples and oranges. Yes I watched the race.

 

[Irish Insanity]

No I saw that.

Way different circumstance then walking down to traffic. Drivers weren't swerving to miss him amigo.

Apples and oranges. Yes I watched the race.

Considering you made it 2 separate statements I took my opportunity to Boooyah you.

I was talking about racing.

I've never seen and apple or and orange race.

But here locally there is an actual banana car that drive around town.

 

[johnnycando]

Considering you made it 2 separate statements I took my opportunity to Boooyah you.

I was talking about racing.

I've never seen and apple or and orange race.

But her locally there is an actual banana car that drive around town.

Who is her? Where is locally!? She puts out huh? And she likes bananas?

Well since we're being technical on words and clichés, I know a lot of girls that like bananas.

Your mom for one.

 

[Huntr]

I'd think you'd have a hard time proving intent based on the video that's going around. At least, proving intent such that a jury buys it.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Who is her? Where is locally!? She puts out huh? And she likes bananas?

Well since we're being technical on words and clichés, I know a lot of girls that like bananas.

Your mom for one.

Sonofabitch

 

[Booslum31]

I think that they are going to incorporate huge fines for on track theatrics in the future.