'13 MA OT John Montelus (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[NDWorld247]

Could it be unlikely or must it be VERY unlikely?

It must be VERY unlikely. I originally wrote "it's simply NOT going to happen", but I decided to change it up to give myself an out in case that .0001% chance it happens comes to fruition.

 

[koonja]

Someone should bump mustiphers thread to talk about his hypothetical position on the defensive depth chart.

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[dublinirish]

Reviewing the Redshirts: OG John Montelus - One Foot Down

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Isn't it nice to have a guy like this in the wings?

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Irish A-to-Z: John*Montelus <a href="http://t.co/TXnETR0JJH">http://t.co/TXnETR0JJH</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/statuses/493855579715026944">July 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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We’re going to have to recalibrate what we expect from offensive linemen in South Bend, especially as the two-deep becomes packed with players capable of contributing. That means that Montelus might not be on the field all that soon, but his future is still as bright as ever.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Well, for Big John's sake I hope that this optimism is warranted.

But OLine play asks for only eight playing monsters per year, unless you have massively bad injury luck, and those eight this year are Stanley, Elmer, NMart, Lombard, and McGlinchey, with Bivin, Hegarty, and Hanratty backing up. AND, even if Hanratty gets passed by somebody, there's a giant superprospect coming in as a frosh who looks to do that. After this year only Lombard goes --- with the then-sophomores having a year of training and hunger in their guts, there will [likely] STILL be no room in the inn.

Maybe someday Kelly will get comfortable enough with the smoothness of the regular offense to get wildly creative with all this talent and, for example, put in a goal-line package with John [the New Fridge] Montelus as a lead blocking fullback with Folson behind ready to jump over the pile.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Well, for Big John's sake I hope that this optimism is warranted.

But OLine play asks for only eight playing monsters per year, unless you have massively bad injury luck, and those eight this year are Stanley, Elmer, NMart, Lombard, and McGlinchey, with Bivin, Hegarty, and Hanratty backing up. AND, even if Hanratty gets passed by somebody, there's a giant superprospect coming in as a frosh who looks to do that. After this year only Lombard goes --- with the then-sophomores having a year of training and hunger in their guts, there will [likely] STILL be no room in the inn.

Agree completely. The offensive line depth chart is about to get super frustrating for some really talented people.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> ND A-to-Z: John Montelus - John Montelus was the final commitment in Notre Dame’s historic junio... <a href="http://t.co/kKvOlmma1Z">http://t.co/kKvOlmma1Z</a></p>— Notre Dame on Scout (@NDonScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDonScout/status/607702825024503808">June 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Old Man Mike]

Yep. If Elmer and Nelson stay at guard, I doubt that he ever will in terms of starting and/or serious playing time. I assume that in 2016 whoever of Nelson/Barrs isn't at guard gets Stanley's vacancy, and Mustifer, Hoge, or Bivin takes NMart's center. That would mean three starters plus first-man-in with only a rookie center [not Big John's position] that year. {I didn't read the story above, so apologies if this just sounds like an echo --- it should be "common knowledge" anyway.}

 

[Chasey]

Well, for Big John's sake I hope that this optimism is warranted.

But OLine play asks for only eight playing monsters per year, unless you have massively bad injury luck, and those eight this year are Stanley, Elmer, NMart, Lombard, and McGlinchey, with Bivin, Hegarty, and Hanratty backing up. AND, even if Hanratty gets passed by somebody, there's a giant superprospect coming in as a frosh who looks to do that. After this year only Lombard goes --- with the then-sophomores having a year of training and hunger in their guts, there will [likely] STILL be no room in the inn.

Maybe someday Kelly will get comfortable enough with the smoothness of the regular offense to get wildly creative with all this talent and, for example, put in a goal-line package with John [the New Fridge] Montelus as a lead blocking fullback with Folson behind ready to jump over the pile.

I am not saying that this will happen but i could see Elmer leaving early for the draft.

 

[dublinirish]

I am not saying that this will happen but i could see Elmer leaving early for the draft.

I don't think he would be the type. I could easily see him walk away from football after ND to do something else, the kid has so many doors open to him its crazy.

 

[zbikowski88]

Looks like he is moving to the D-Line

 

[ThePiombino]

Looks like he is moving to the D-Line

Whaaaaaaat? In all honesty, good for him. I had completely forgotten about him.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

Looks like he is moving to the D-Line

What the heck?

Inside don't we have like 9 DT's?

SDE: I doubt Issac leaves the field, ever

WDE: Uh....don't think this would be a fit.

 

[Rizzophil]

What the heck?

Inside don't we have like 9 DT's?

SDE: I doubt Issac leaves the field, ever

WDE: Uh....don't think this would be a fit.

If he's not the right fit in offensive line, have to try elsewhere

 

[pkt77242]

What the heck?

Inside don't we have like 9 DT's?

SDE: I doubt Issac leaves the field, ever

WDE: Uh....don't think this would be a fit.

Two ways of looking at it.
1. He was buried on the o-line depth chart so why not give him a shot on defense
or
2. Some of the younger DTs aren't progressing very well so lets get him in there and see if he can help.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Maybe its a Jarron Jones insurance policy.

 

[PANDFAN]

according to a poster on rivals...he has been practicing w/ dline since midseason last year

 

[Irishman77]

according to a poster on rivals...he has been practicing w/ dline since midseason last year

Stellar! This is the body type we desperately need to clog up the middle LOVE THIS!

 

[pkt77242]

Stellar! This is the body type we desperately need to clog up the middle LOVE THIS!

Huh? So what body types do Jones, Tillert and Cage have?

 

[Irishman77]

Jones is 6'6 300
Tillary is 6'6 300

Cage is similar but we need more like him there.

 

[pkt77242]

Jones is 6'6 300
Tillary is 6'6 300

Cage is similar but we need more like him there.

I keep seeing Jones listed at 315, but you are right that Tillery is 300 or so.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

Huh? So what body types do Jones, Tillert and Cage have?

Yeah that was my thought process as well. As in, we have 3 proven guys in the middle.

Then again, if just one goes down (a la JJ last year), slim pickings.

I have to think this is a sign of MDT, Tiassum, etc not impressing.

 

[PANDFAN]

Looks like he is moving to the D-Line

Yeah that was my thought process as well. As in, we have 3 proven guys in the middle.

Then again, if just one goes down (a la JJ last year), slim pickings.

I have to think this is a sign of MDT, Tiassum, etc not impressing.

not necessary...could just be he needed a fresh start elsewhere as he was buried....sometimes it helps light a fire

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I keep seeing Jones listed at 315, but you are right that Tillery is 300 or so.

Do we know if Tillery is expected to play 3Tech or staying at nose?

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Yeah that was my thought process as well. As in, we have 3 proven guys in the middle.

Then again, if just one goes down (a la JJ last year), slim pickings.

I have to think this is a sign of MDT, Tiassum, etc not impressing.

MDT I believe is slated for 3Tech, never heard any glowing reports from Tiassum but who knows.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

not necessary...could just be he needed a fresh start elsewhere as he was buried....sometimes it helps light a fire

True. He still has 2 years left. Maybe the staff figured by switching him last season, he could get enough reps to get comfortable and maybe contribute this year and next.

Another mystery is where (if) Jay Hayes will fit into the rotation. Thinking it's the latter honestly

 

[Irish#1]

True. He still has 2 years left. Maybe the staff figured by switching him last season, he could get enough reps to get comfortable and maybe contribute this year and next.

Another mystery is where (if) Jay Hayes will fit into the rotation. Thinking it's the latter honestly

Shamrock,
You need to change that avatar. It's the worst. I don't mind the purple face, but the quality looks like something made on a windows 3.1 machine back in 92.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

Shamrock,
You need to change that avatar. It's the worst. I don't mind the purple face, but the quality looks like something made on a windows 3.1 machine back in 92.

You got it babe

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Do we know if Tillery is expected to play 3Tech or staying at nose?

Tillery was planning on playing 3 technique last season behind Sheldon Day, before Jarron Jones got hurt. He has the skill to be an awesome 3t dt, not so much at nose.

Jarron and Cage are much better at pushing the pocket, and clogging the middle from what defensive coaches have shared.