Best producing schools per position...discuss

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Colleague <a href="https://twitter.com/JBradEdwards">@JBradEdwards</a> says <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> is the best current tight end-producing school for the NFL ($) <a href="http://t.co/D2MLHGkkPP">http://t.co/D2MLHGkkPP</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/statuses/459372208411127808">April 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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1. Offensive line -- USC Trojans
This might not be the first position group that people associate with USC, but it's the spot where the Trojans are making their biggest impression in the league currently. It starts with All-Pro center Ryan Kalil, but the most noteworthy thing about this crop of USC linemen is the number of successful offensive tackles. Sam Baker, Charles Brown, Winston Justice, Matt Kalil and Tyron Smith each has started at least 12 NFL games at tackle in the past two seasons. That's some serious value.

Who's next: Mel Kiper ranks USC's Marcus Martin as the best center in this year's draft.




2. Defensive backs -- LSU Tigers
LSU grabbed my attention with this note from the Elias Sports Bureau: In the past five seasons, 15 former LSU players have started at least one game in an NFL secondary. The Tigers began regularly churning out pro defensive backs when Nick Saban was in charge, and it hasn't slowed down one bit under Les Miles. Eric Reid and Tyrann Mathieu made an immediate impact from last year's draft class, and Patrick Peterson is one of the best in the league. LaRon Landry and Ryan Clark also have been named to the Pro Bowl within the past three years.

Who's next: Todd McShay ranks LSU's Craig Loston as the sixth-best safety in this year's draft.



3. Defensive backs -- Texas Longhorns
Mack Brown had an impressive haul of defensive backs during his years as coach, and many of them have enjoyed success in the NFL -- most recently Kenny Vaccaro, Aaron Williams and Earl Thomas. According to Elias, eight Longhorns started at least one game at DB in the NFL last season, and nine defensive backs from Texas have made at least eight starts in a single season during the past three years. That's impressive depth.



4. Linebackers -- USC Trojans
If there's a current "Linebacker U" in the NFL, it would be USC, which is the college home of Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Rey Maualuga, Keith Rivers and Super Bowl XLVIII MVP Malcolm Smith. The first four of that group entered the league on the heels of Lofa Tatupu, making for an impressive run of Pete Carroll linebacker recruits. Smith, however, is the only standout who has made his NFL debut within the past five years, and he wasn't really known until 2013. It makes you wonder if the pipeline may be running dry.



5. Offensive line -- Wisconsin Badgers
On the college level, great offensive line play is much more a part of Wisconsin's identity than USC's, and the Badgers are starting to see that reputation extend to the NFL. Joe Thomas is the most acclaimed of this group, but in the past three years, guys like Kraig Urbik, Peter Konz, Kevin Zeitler and Travis Frederick have also shown their worth. All five of these players started 11 or more games for their respective teams in 2013. Throw in Gabe Carimi (who has struggled mightily in his brief career), and you've got two tackles, two guards and two centers from Wisconsin with a lot of recent starting experience in the league.



6. Linebackers -- Georgia Bulldogs
As much as you might not associate Georgia with excellent linebacking, it's right up there with USC in terms of current NFL production at the position. Last season, Thomas Davis, Alec Ogletree and Dannell Ellerbe each had more than 100 tackles, Justin Houston had 11 sacks and Akeem Dent and Jarvis Jones also had productive seasons. If you're surprised by this, also consider that UGA has had a league-high 13 different players start on NFL defensive lines during the last five seasons (according to Elias), making the Dawgs arguably the program that has the biggest current impact on NFL defensive front sevens.



7. Tight end -- Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Since 2000, Miami has been "Tight End U" in the NFL, boasting Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow, Greg Olsen and Jimmy Graham. But most of those guys (with the exception of Graham) are either retired or on the back end of their careers, opening the door for a changing of the guard at this position. Notre Dame has four tight ends in the league right now -- Anthony Fasano, John Carlson, Kyle Rudolph and Tyler Eifert -- and all are productive. Fasano was the only member of this quartet to not have at least 30 receptions last season, and he had 23 in just nine games due to injuries (ankle, concussion).

Who's next: Notre Dame TE Troy Niklas ranks 66th on Kiper's list of Top 100 draft prospects.



8. Defensive backs - South Carolina Gamecocks

I didn't really want to add a third school for defensive backs, but South Carolina's talent has been too good to ignore. NFL fans probably know these names better than SEC fans do from having watched them play in college in the past decade-plus: Sheldon Brown, Dunta Robinson, Johnathan Joseph, Captain Munnerlyn, Chris Culliver, Antonio Allen, Stephon Gilmore and D.J. Swearinger are the ones who jumped out at me. And there's enough young talent in this group for them to possibly surpass LSU and Texas in a few years.
 

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In addition to DBs, I hear that South Carolina produces really good gas station attendants.

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Hopefully Heistand can produce NFL caliber o-linemen year after year. He's on track to do so
 
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W/O looking up the drafts, I'd think Bama fans feel slighted on RB and DL.
 

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W/O looking up the drafts, I'd think Bama fans feel slighted on RB and DL.

Off the top of my head, I can't think if many Bama players that are producing in the NFL. They get drafted high, but that's about it
 
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Off the top of my head, I can't think if many Bama players that are producing in the NFL. They get drafted high, but that's about it

I agree with that, but I can't think of a school off of the top of my head who would have a better DL reputation coming out of college than Bama.
 

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All the ND players in the league (practice squads included)


Robert Blanton Safety
Sergio Brown Safety
David Bruton Safety
John Carlson Tight End
Braxston Cave Offensive Lineman
Tyler Eifert Tight End
Anthony Fasano Tight End
Darius Fleming Linebacker
Michael Floyd Wide Receiver
Jonas Gray Running Back
Robert Hughes Running Back
J.J. Jansen Long Snapper
Kapron Lewis-Moore Defensive End
Zeke Motta Safety
Eric Olsen Center
Theo Riddick Running Back
Trevor Robinson Center
Kyle Rudolph Tight End
Jamoris Slaughter Safety
Harrison Smith Safety
John Sullivan Center
Golden Tate Wide Receiver
Manti Te'o Linebacker
Justin Tuck Defensive End
Ian Williams Nose Tackle
Cierre Wood Running Back
 
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Lacy is the only RB doing anything. Ingram and Richardson are kind of struggling.

They're still top picks though. And I can't think of a school that has 3 RBs that as a whole are doing more in the NFL right now.

I guess it depends on what's weighted higher... draft position or actual production once in the NFL.

I would say that where/how many are drafted is a better indicator of who should be known as '___-U', but it's up to whoever's doing the study.

Disclaimer - I didn't read the tweet or article.
 
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They're still top picks though. And I can't think of a school that has 3 RBs that as a whole are doing more in the NFL right now.

I guess it depends on what's weighted higher... draft position or actual production. I would say that where/how many are drafted is a better indicator of who should be known as '___-U', but it's up to whoever's doing the study.

Disclaimer - I didn't read the tweet or article.

I disagree. Production is key. Who cares where you are drafted. That only matters in how much your rookie contract is worth. Games played, season's played, on-field production etc. mean more to me than a huge popularity contest for people fighting to get the highest rookie contract they can get.

To the bolded... I am shocked.....Because it talks about production and the overall numbers drafted, not really where they were drafted.
 
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I disagree. Production is key. Who cares where you are drafted. That only matters in how much your rookie contract is worth. Games played, season's played, on-field production etc. mean more to me than a huge popularity contest for people fighting to get the highest rookie contract they can get.

I see your point, I just think the people are more impressed by college programs that can say 'we have 12 drafted in the first 2 rounds in the past 5 years at _____ position', than something that's not easily quantified like production/reputation in the league.
 
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I disagree. Production is key. Who cares where you are drafted. That only matters in how much your rookie contract is worth. Games played, season's played, on-field production etc. mean more to me than a huge popularity contest for people fighting to get the highest rookie contract they can get.

To the bolded... I am shocked.....Because it talks about production and the overall numbers drafted, not really where they were drafted.

Well my point of view is draft in general. So basically, when they're drafted but also how many are drafted.

I just think it's an easier sell to the media to say 'look at how many drafted' rather than 'look at these players who are doing really well', because that can be subjective.
 

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I can agree with that list pretty much. There are a few others schools
left out that produce quality players at certain positions though too.
It's interesting to see which schools seem to thrive in certain areas.
Is that recruiting or overall coaching at those positions?
 

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Off the top of my head, I can't think if many Bama players that are producing in the NFL. They get drafted high, but that's about it

it was generated not only as being drafted but PRODUCING...bama players arn't living up to their hype....i was listening to svp today and had a former gm on....he was saying it's tough to scout them because are they a product from their system? do they top out in college w/ very little ceiling when they hit nfl coming from bama
 

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it was generated not only as being drafted but PRODUCING...bama players arn't living up to their hype....i was listening to svp today and had a former gm on....he was saying it's tough to scout them because are they a product from their system? do they top out in college w/ very little ceiling when they hit nfl coming from bama

It's easy to look like an all-american when your team is stacked from top to bottom because the opposing team can't just focus on you, they have to focus on 10 other guys as well. That's why I wasn't high on Eddie Lacey last year; I thought he was a product of a great offensive line. But he obviously proved me wrong
 
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