ND Scheduled Georgia (Ironman leaving the Country during 2019)

[woolybug25]

Then add six complete cupcakes around those marquees, then I'll buy in.

Ha... so worse schedules than we currently have had for decades then?

Last year's schedule:

vsTemple
@#17 Michigan
@Purdue
vsMichigan State
vs#14 Oklahoma
vs#22 Arizona State
vsUSC
@Air Force
vsNavy
@Pittsburgh
BYU
#8 Stanford

Would you consider teams like Arizona St, BYU and Pitt "cupcakes"?

You are literally asking for us to dumb down our scedule. Is that what you want?

 

[woolybug25]

Just tweaking you guys. I'm off to Tanaka's first start at the Stadium so I'm out for now.

Pound a beer or two for me, homie!

 

[ACamp1900]

Ha... so worse schedules than we currently have had for decades then?

Last year's schedule:

vsTemple
@#17 Michigan
@Purdue
vsMichigan State
vs#14 Oklahoma
vs#22 Arizona State
vsUSC
@Air Force
vsNavy
@Pittsburgh
BYU
#8 Stanford

Would you consider teams like Arizona St, BYU and Pitt "cupcakes"?

You are literally asking for us to dumb down our scedule. Is that what you want?

YES!!!!!!

ASU, Pitt and BYU are cupcakes on no one's schedule but ND's most years... it is and has been insane to me for years now.

 

[ACamp1900]

I guess I am here on this issue: If any team plays 4-7 top 25 teams a year (ofetn in a row) with their biggest ‘cupcake’ being Navy, then most years one of two things will most likely happen. 1.) the years where that team wins enough games to even think about the playoffs will be very few and far between and 2.) That team will be so beat up at the end of each year it won’t matter if they somehow do get in to the playoff.

Overall scheduling: I have made this argument like a broken record for years on this board… ND has enough unique challenges that consistently put them behind the eight ball without making it harder on themselves with the schedule. Very few, if any, other teams in the country play the week in week out grind ND plays just about each and every season. Lighten the damn grind please.

 

[irishfan]

Ha... so worse schedules than we currently have had for decades then?

Last year's schedule:

vsTemple
@#17 Michigan
@Purdue
vsMichigan State
vs#14 Oklahoma
vs#22 Arizona State
vsUSC
@Air Force
vsNavy
@Pittsburgh
BYU
#8 Stanford

Would you consider teams like Arizona St, BYU and Pitt "cupcakes"?

You are literally asking for us to dumb down our scedule. Is that what you want?

Mainly, these 6 game stretches are what concerns me (Michigan, Purdue, MSU, OU, ASU, USC) I don't see a way that we get through a stretch like that 6-0 and then expect to also play teams like Stanford and Georgia on top of it.

Just looking at the next three years, we have these stretches every year:

2014
Sept. 6 MICHIGAN (night)
Sept. 13 * Purdue at Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Ind. (night)
Sept. 27 at Syracuse (MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, N.J.)
Oct. 4 STANFORD
Oct. 11 NORTH CAROLINA
Oct. 18 at Florida State

Even if we make it through that 5-1, we still have to play at AZ State and at USC.

2015
Sept. 5 TEXAS
Sept. 12 at Virginia
Sept. 19 GEORGIA TECH
Sept. 26 MASSACHUSETTS
Oct. 3 at Clemson
Oct. 10 NAVY
Oct. 17 USC

No bye weeks although UMASS is close, and 3 crazy tough games in 7 weeks. Then Stanford at the end of the year with 3 straight ACC games before that one.

2016
Oct. 15 STANFORD
Oct. 29 MIAMI
Nov. 5 vs. Navy (site TBD)
Nov. 12 * Army at Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas (night)
Nov. 19 VIRGINIA TECH
Nov. 26 at USC

Brutal 6-game stretch to end the season along with Texas and Michigan State earlier in the year.

We play too many "solid" teams to throw in a premier one like Georgia on top of it. We can't play 5 "marquee" teams to go along with 5-6 solid ones and then one non-AQ. Its too much; its unrealistic to expect us to bring the A game for the marquee ones and then still bring the B+ games against the Pitts and UNCs of the world.

 

[ACamp1900]

Mainly, these 6 game stretches are what concerns me (Michigan, Purdue, MSU, OU, ASU, USC) I don't see a way that we get through a stretch like that 6-0 and then expect to also play teams like Stanford and Georgia on top of it.

Just looking at the next three years, we have these stretches every year:

2014
Sept. 6 MICHIGAN (night)
Sept. 13 * Purdue at Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Ind. (night)
Sept. 27 at Syracuse (MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, N.J.)
Oct. 4 STANFORD
Oct. 11 NORTH CAROLINA
Oct. 18 at Florida State

Even if we make it through that 5-1, we still have to play at AZ State and at USC.

2015
Sept. 5 TEXAS
Sept. 12 at Virginia
Sept. 19 GEORGIA TECH
Sept. 26 MASSACHUSETTS
Oct. 3 at Clemson
Oct. 10 NAVY
Oct. 17 USC

No bye weeks although UMASS is close, and 3 crazy tough games in 7 weeks. Then Stanford at the end of the year with 3 straight ACC games before that one.

2016
Oct. 15 STANFORD
Oct. 29 MIAMI
Nov. 5 vs. Navy (site TBD)
Nov. 12 * Army at Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas (night)
Nov. 19 VIRGINIA TECH
Nov. 26 at USC

Brutal 6-game stretch to end the season along with Texas and Michigan State earlier in the year.

We play too many "solid" teams to throw in a premier one like Georgia on top of it. We can't play 5 "marquee" teams to go along with 5-6 solid ones and then one non-AQ. Its too much; its unrealistic to expect us to bring the A game for the marquee ones and then still bring the B+ games against the Pitts and UNCs of the world.

 

[woolybug25]

YES!!!!!!

ASU, Pitt and BYU are cupcakes on no one's schedule but ND's most years... it is and has been insane to me for years now.

Well, you are in the minority.

It's also not been for two years. We played 6 marquee teams in 1988 with little cupcake action. If you want cupcakes, it means you want to be in a conference. Because this type of schedule has been standard procedure for decades. It will continue to be as long as other teams are tipping their hat as "conference champions".

I want to stay independent, so I am ok with our tipping hat being a stronger SoS.

 

[Rocket89]

I don't have a big problem with trying to decrease the potency of our easier games. It's tricky to do but it can work. We still need the top games though, which means signing series with Georgia, Texas, etc.

Also, we don't know what Swarbrick has planned for the filler games out past a couple years. I'd posit he's been doing a good job making the schedule more manageable and sneaking in some easier games (UMass anyone?).

 

[Cackalacky]

You guys are a bunch of pussies

 

[woolybug25]

Dude... are you not reading any of the responses to posts? Just singling out ones you like?

Several of us answered the post you quoted explaining that we wouldn't play all of the teams he listed. Go google "notre dame future schedules" and take a gander.

 

[ACamp1900]

Well, you are in the minority .

You really think the average ND fan is against making the schedule more managable??...

you point to ND playing the grind for decades... and how many years in the last 30 has ND been a real contender?? three? You don't thin the schedule has anything to do with that?? Come on.

 

[woolybug25]

Mainly, these 6 game stretches are what concerns me (Michigan, Purdue, MSU, OU, ASU, USC) I don't see a way that we get through a stretch like that 6-0 and then expect to also play teams like Stanford and Georgia on top of it.

Just looking at the next three years, we have these stretches every year:

2014
Sept. 6 MICHIGAN (night)
Sept. 13 * Purdue at Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Ind. (night)
Sept. 27 at Syracuse (MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, N.J.)
Oct. 4 STANFORD
Oct. 11 NORTH CAROLINA
Oct. 18 at Florida State

Even if we make it through that 5-1, we still have to play at AZ State and at USC.

2015
Sept. 5 TEXAS
Sept. 12 at Virginia
Sept. 19 GEORGIA TECH
Sept. 26 MASSACHUSETTS
Oct. 3 at Clemson
Oct. 10 NAVY
Oct. 17 USC

No bye weeks although UMASS is close, and 3 crazy tough games in 7 weeks. Then Stanford at the end of the year with 3 straight ACC games before that one.

2016
Oct. 15 STANFORD
Oct. 29 MIAMI
Nov. 5 vs. Navy (site TBD)
Nov. 12 * Army at Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas (night)
Nov. 19 VIRGINIA TECH
Nov. 26 at USC

Brutal 6-game stretch to end the season along with Texas and Michigan State earlier in the year.

We play too many "solid" teams to throw in a premier one like Georgia on top of it. We can't play 5 "marquee" teams to go along with 5-6 solid ones and then one non-AQ. Its too much; its unrealistic to expect us to bring the A game for the marquee ones and then still bring the B+ games against the Pitts and UNCs of the world.

Just like your last post. In those examples, we play no more than 3 marquee games. With the possibility of 1 or 2 more depending on who we schedule. How is that any different than what we already do?

5 Marquee Games... Every Year. I'lll keep posting this until you get it.

 

[ACamp1900]

Dude... are you not reading any of the responses to posts? Just singling out ones you like?

Several of us answered the post you quoted explaining that we wouldn't play all of the teams he listed. Go google "notre dame future schedules" and take a gander.

I have responded to many of your posts... smh

 

[ACamp1900]

Just like your last post. In those examples, we play no more than 3 marquee games. With the possibility of 1 or 2 more depending on who we schedule. How is that any different than what we already do?

5 Marquee Games... Every Year. I'lll keep posting this until you get it.

Then keep posting... because, just like with every other issue you try to get badass about... you are wrong.

:swordfigh

 

[woolybug25]

You really think the average ND fan is against making the schedule more managable??...

you point to ND playing the grind for decades... and how many years in the last 30 has ND been a real contender?? three? You don't thin the schedule has anything to do with that?? Come on.

We haven't been a contender because our teams sucked, not because of our schedule. In our last title, we beat 6 marquee opponents. How can you say our schedule is the reason for our failures when we many of those years we lose to USF, UConn, Syracuse and Boston College?

If we were losing 1 or 2 games a year to elite opponents and it was keeping us out of the title game, then you would have a point. That is nowhere close to reality.

The reality is that if we don't belong in the playoffs, we wont get there regardless of if we add a couple cream puffs because we don't play in a conference championship. So our 11-1 means less to voters than 11-1 conference champions. Which there are usually 2-4 of them that are left out of the title game every year. Those teams will want one of the playoff spots.

I'm not a "you have to play the best to be the best" dudes. I'm a realist, and marquee wins will matter going forward. Period.

 

[ACamp1900]

NDinLA is my favorite poster on the board... I'll keep posting it until Wooly gets it.

 

[woolybug25]

Then keep posting... because, just like with every other issue you try to get badass about... you are wrong.

:swordfigh

Wierd... since many others on here, and apparently the University of Notre Dame, seem to agree with me.

 

[ACamp1900]

We haven't been a contender because our teams sucked, not because of our schedule. In our last title, we beat 6 marquee opponents. How can you say our schedule is the reason for our failures when we many of those years we lose to USF, UConn, Syracuse and Boston College?


.

This from the guy that just said I'm not reading responses... smh... lol

 

[koonja]

This is an example of a thread that could use the presence of Irishpat183, lol.

 

[ACamp1900]

Wierd... since many others on here, and apparently the University of Notre Dame, seem to agree with me.

Didn't you just point to future schedules being lightened??? Weird, because that would mean like, you know, the school’s actions totally align with me.

I also find it odd you complain about me not responding to, or listening to, opposing points while a engage in dialogue with multiple posters, then paint this picture of this one sided argument with me against the world, when there are plenty of posters making points on either side... aruging with you is just, you know, totally awesome.


:awesomewo

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

This is an example of a thread that could use the presence of Irishpat183, lol.

Let me try and channel my inner Pat


1st post: Shut up that's stupid!

2nd post: Oh you think Im wrong cuz you went to some fancy university... I went to a shitty school and now I run my own company

3rd post: what happened to America. All I seez is a bunch of pussies.

 

[ACamp1900]

Let me try and channel my inner Pat


1st post: Shut up that's stupid!

2nd post: Oh you think Im wrong cuz you went to some fancy university... I went to a shitty school and now I run my own company

3rd post: what happened to America. All I seez is a bunch of pussies.

Needs to be a 'lazy bums' in there somewhere....

 

[koonja]

Let me try and channel my inner Pat


1st post: Shut up that's stupid!

2nd post: Oh you think Im wrong cuz you went to some fancy university... I went to a shitty school and now I run my own company

3rd post: what happened to America. All I seez is a bunch of pussies.

Needs to be a 'lazy bums' in there somewhere....

You're only missing an Obama rant.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Obama turning ND into lazy bums! They no wanna play against the best teams in CFB


Did I forget to mention you think u so smart going and getting some fancy schooling?

 

[Cackalacky]

#ThanksObama

 

[koonja]

Needs to be a 'lazy bums' in there somewhere....

Acamp, what's been going on with ole Patrick? He hasn't emailed me back from about a month ago. Probably mad that I took down the banner.

 

[ACamp1900]

Acamp, what's been going on with ole Patrick? He hasn't emailed me back from about a month ago. Probably mad that I took down the banner.

No clue. I see him over at Gh every once in a while... but idk.

 

[koonja]

No clue. I see him over at Gh every once in a while... but idk.

I imagine he's like Voldemort, alone, isolated, weakened, but not giving up. Building his army and will come back with the power of 1,000 Nords.

If I had time, I'd take all of the IE cliches 'RKG', 'Wait til Longo gets ahold of him', etc, and be the biggest homer of all time over at GH. Set him off the whole summer, then at the end 'Hey Pat, it's me!'.

 

[irishfan]

Just like your last post. In those examples, we play no more than 3 marquee games. With the possibility of 1 or 2 more depending on who we schedule. How is that any different than what we already do?

5 Marquee Games... Every Year. I'lll keep posting this until you get it.

I'm not explaining my opinion well I don't think. The 5 marquee games is if we balance them with 7 Purdues. We dont though.

My concern going forward is too many runs of games where we have a Stanford or a USC sandwiched around a Pitt and a UNC.

Even in our most dominant recent year, we were almost done in by a BYU-Oklahoma-Pitt run of games. We have too many "solid" teams on our schedule to play 4-5 big games a year.

 

[woolybug25]

Didn't you just point to future schedules being lightened??? Weird, because that would mean like, you know, the school’s actions totally align with me.

I also find it odd you complain about me not responding to, or listening to, opposing points while a engage in dialogue with multiple posters, then paint this picture of this one sided argument with me against the world, when there are plenty of posters making points on either side... aruging with you is just, you know, totally awesome.


:awesomewo

Where did I point to future schedules being lightened? Not once did I say that. I pointed you in the directions of future schedules to emphasize the room we have for teams like Georgia while maintaining the 5 marquee games we have always had as a floor. I guess this is another example of you trying to make a point off of comments you didn't read correctly or at all.

How does other posters sharing your view have anything to do with you not listening to what people on my side are saying? I'm obviously responding and debating with all of those other people. I guess I have no idea what your last point is even suppose to mean.