ND Commits - International Bowl (2/7)

[palinurus]

Lots and lots of penalties. US clearly in control.

 

[palinurus]

22-7 at half. Jalen Jelks Oregon recruit ejected after his second unsportsmanlike conduct.

 

[koonja]

Hearing that Greer looks legit is just a bonus to what is a really, really good LB group.

 

[NDWorld247]

Hayes pulled a hamstring. Nothing serious but probably out for the rest of the game. More observations once my hands thaw out. It's freaking cold.

 

[palinurus]

whew. good news on Hayes. Martini looks great. Sykes contains well, but other than a good unblocked pressure on a blitz and maybe one assist, hasn't done much that I have seen. But good effort.

 

[NDWorld247]

Martini is a stud. Best LB here. There's a reason he was named captain. Hayes plays violently and with an attitude. Sykes has struggled getting off blocks but is awesome in coverage.

 

[NDWorld247]

As for the game...special teams is the difference. The US always dominates on ST in international competition. Their defense has also been stifling.

 

[palinurus]

US TD pass, up 29-7. Scored off a turnover.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Trying to ask again, but will this be available on demand tomorrow on ESPN3?.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Trying to ask again, but will this be available on demand tomorrow on ESPN3?.

More than likely, yes.

 

[palinurus]

36-7, US, 5:11 left in game

 

[koonja]

Who cares about that score, lol. How do that DBoyz look.

 

[palinurus]

US, another score to close it out, 43-7. :55 left

 

[palinurus]

quieter second half for our two guys. Canada offense didn't have much, didn't get past the line much. Nile does look good in coverage. Gets pushed a bit on the run.

 

[palinurus]

Game over. Ended on Martini pushing guy out of bounds at the US 7

 

[palinurus]

MVP -- Trevell Pinto Canada
Charles Nelson (Oregon commit, ND target) -- US --caught 5 passes, returned 3 punts for 140 yds or so and a TD

 

[scUM Hater]

Martini is a stud. Best LB here. There's a reason he was named captain. Hayes plays violently and with an attitude. Sykes has struggled getting off blocks but is awesome in coverage.

Oh Great, another Calabrese.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Greer is all of 6'3" and maybe on his way to 6'4". He's a lot skinnier than I thought he'd be, but definitely has a great frame to grow into. I think he could play any of the LB spots, but I'd be really surprised if he ever moved to DE.

On the other hand, Hayes is definitely not the 6'5" I've seen him listed as. Sykes is probably 6'1"-6'1.5". I don't think he's 6'2".

But, speaking of massive, Montel McBride is MASSIVE. Craig Evans is also a big boy.

Interesting about your thoughts on Greer. I thought he was just about right all the way around. He was bigger than I thought. I know he has some work to do at ND, but I thought he was a pretty good specimen for a senior in high school, last October. Alex Anzalone was the guy I always thought was too skinny.

 

[palinurus]

I know this game is on ESPN3 live, but are they going to have the replay available to watch on demand for ESPN3? My roommates are making me watch the Olympic opening ceremony.

I looked this morning and I don't see it on replay, but I am not too familiar with ESPN 3 or ESPN viewing on line, so I may be wrong. Just thought I'd look for you.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I looked this morning and I don't see it on replay, but I am not too familiar with ESPN 3 or ESPN viewing on line, so I may be wrong. Just thought I'd look for you.

Actually, I found it and am watching right now. Haha Thanks anyways!

 

[NDWorld247]

Interesting about your thoughts on Greer. I thought he was just about right all the way around. He was bigger than I thought. I know he has some work to do at ND, but I thought he was a pretty good specimen for a senior in high school, last October. Alex Anzalone was the guy I always thought was too skinny.

I guess I was just comparing him to some of the other division 1 ILB recruits I've seen in person the past 5 years and he wasn't as 'bulky' or built at this stage as almost all of the guys I've been around. I wasn't being critical, just making an observation. And, as I said, he has a great frame. I have no doubt Longo will add the bulk he needs in a short period of time.

But, in today's recruiting world, and the way the staff has recruited certain heights and weights on the defensive side of the ball during the Diaco years, I think people get too caught up in measurables and become less concerned with what kind of football player a recruit actually is. After what I saw last night, I have zero concerns about Greer. The kid can flat out play the game. Combine that with the type of leader and person he is (talking to him, he couldn't have been nicer), I think he has the chance to be a special player at ND. And, going by Kelly's comments on NSD, the staff has known this for a while.

 

[palinurus]

Actually, I found it and am watching right now. Haha Thanks anyways!

Let me know:

1) where you found that on line; I'd like to watch it again, focusing on our guys more -- hard to tell last night with the crappy camera work, where our guys were until it was too late; and

2) your thoughts on our guys.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I guess I was just comparing him to some of the other division 1 ILB recruits I've seen in person the past 5 years and he wasn't as 'bulky' or built at this stage as almost all of the guys I've been around. I wasn't being critical, just making an observation. And, as I said, he has a great frame. I have no doubt Longo will add the bulk he needs in a short period of time.

But, in today's recruiting world, and the way the staff has recruited certain heights and weights on the defensive side of the ball during the Diaco years, I think people get too caught up in measurables and become less concerned with what kind of football player a recruit actually is. After what I saw last night, I have zero concerns about Greer. The kid can flat out play the game. Combine that with the type of leader and person he is (talking to him, he couldn't have been nicer), I think he has the chance to be a special player at ND. And, going by Kelly's comments on NSD, the staff has known this for a while.

My reps to you!

I was just surprised. I remember this kind from the player walk at the USC game and he was in the first group of recruits behind the team, and as I remember Foxxy and Carlo were toward the end of the players. So they were close. I almost didn't recognize Greer because he was so much bigger than I expected. That is all. Different places different times and different perspective. I am glad for your observations. All of them. And it makes me feel better that you made the comment with the point that your concerns were well allayed.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Let me know:

1) where you found that on line; I'd like to watch it again, focusing on our guys more -- hard to tell last night with the crappy camera work, where our guys were until it was too late; and

2) your thoughts on our guys.

I found it under ESPN3 on the xbox one ESPN app. Im sure its on the ESPN3 site under replays.

In regards to how our recent signed looked, I thought they looked great. Jay Hayes looked a little leaner than I thought he'd be, but my overall impression was speed. The guys all looked faster than their tape and Martini was so much faster than I thought he would be. Fantastic instincts as well. Nike Sykes is all athleticism and will be a great player when he can refine his technique a bit (I.e. getting off blocks). I like the way BK is recruiting linebackers with good instincts and good athleticism instead of just big bodies like Carlo and Fox.

 

[NDWorld247]

My reps to you!

I was just surprised. I remember this kind from the player walk at the USC game and he was in the first group of recruits behind the team, and as I remember Foxxy and Carlo were toward the end of the players. So they were close. I almost didn't recognize Greer because he was so much bigger than I expected. That is all. Different places different times and different perspective. I am glad for your observations. All of them. And it makes me feel better that you made the comment with the point that your concerns were well allayed.

Good stuff, Bogs. But just to clarify...Nothing about his physique concerned me. He just looked skinnier to me than I thought he'd be. Just making an observation, not concerned at all because I know how much a player's body changes once they get in a college program. I personally made the biggest gains of my life during my freshman year of college, and I believe almost all college football players would say the same thing. My HS weight training program paled in comparison to my college program and I ate like shit in HS.

 

[palinurus]

I found it under ESPN3 on the xbox one ESPN app. Im sure its on the ESPN3 site under replays.

In regards to how our recent signed looked, I thought they looked great. Jay Hayes looked a little leaner than I thought he'd be, but my overall impression was speed. The guys all looked faster than their tape and Martini was so much faster than I thought he would be. Fantastic instincts as well. Nike Sykes is all athleticism and will be a great player when he can refine his technique a bit (I.e. getting off blocks). I like the way BK is recruiting linebackers with good instincts and good athleticism instead of just big bodies like Carlo and Fox.

It wasn't under replays this morning; somehow this blind squirrel found that part of the site, but it wasn't there. Doesn't matter; I'll look again.

I agree on your read. There was a stretch in the first half where Martini was everywhere -- sideline to sideline on runs and closing on passes out of his zone, with good coverage in his zone. Speed and quickness were apparent.

 

[Irishokie]

Just remembered a kid from my hometown is playing in the U17 game now. WR Jason Pirtle of Locust Grove, OK. I have t seen him play HS football but when my nephew played on the basketball team with him in middle school, he was ckearly on a different level than the other 14yo's.

Are these kids highly touted prospects or how what's the guidelines to selecting rosters? I ask because LG is a pretty small school. Locust Grove High School Football Info - MaxPreps

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I found it under ESPN3 on the xbox one ESPN app. Im sure its on the ESPN3 site under replays.

In regards to how our recent signed looked, I thought they looked great. Jay Hayes looked a little leaner than I thought he'd be, but my overall impression was speed. The guys all looked faster than their tape and Martini was so much faster than I thought he would be. Fantastic instincts as well. Nike Sykes is all athleticism and will be a great player when he can refine his technique a bit (I.e. getting off blocks). I like the way BK is recruiting linebackers with good instincts and good athleticism instead of just big bodies like Carlo and Fox.

My key question for my hypothesis is how fast do they look?

Good stuff, Bogs. But just to clarify...Nothing about his physique concerned me. He just looked skinnier to me than I thought he'd be. Just making an observation, not concerned at all because I know how much a player's body changes once they get in a college program. I personally made the biggest gains of my life during my freshman year of college, and I believe almost all college football players would say the same thing. My HS weight training program paled in comparison to my college program and I ate like shit in HS.

I thought we were on the same page! How did you think they looked side to side? How quick did they look reading keys, etc.?

 

[TheRealLynch51]

My key question for my hypothesis is how fast do they look?



I thought we were on the same page! How did you think they looked side to side? How quick did they look reading keys, etc.?

Much faster than the current crop of ILB, thats for sure.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Martini is hard to gage on film because he plays so disciplined and doesn't waste motion. I like him at Sam, since I think Morgan is the hire apparent at Mike.