Sep 21 | Michigan State

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Good win. Play calling isn't really good on offense, but that is correctable. Hopefully, we can keep on improving.
 
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I'm hoping we can utilize a quicker paced offense sometime this year. Offense needs to get snaps off quicker to put heat on defensive fronts not this wait till 2 or 3 seconds every snap to let people adjust to our play call. It's like we're over thinking everything, doesn't seem natural if that makes sense.
 
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Kanye West said:
Our D played well, but Connor Cook and Maxwell are pure garbage. My roommate last year played with Cook at Walsh-Jesuit and said that he was beyond awful and the only reason he got a scholarship was because of his size and athleticism. I am mad at the play calling more than the offense. But our Defense did win us the game today.
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Read my post again. You missed my point entirely.
 
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IrishJayhawk said:
Um...I disagree. That's always a huge thing.
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Good thing, but I think the point is, that's the best thing that happened.... weak sauce all around again. O, D, STs, coaching, etc.. IMO this is not a top 25 team. I guess we'll see over the next 3 games / 4 weeks, but outside of Tommy being consistent, there wasn't a whole lot to be pleased about. I do like that they aired it out a bit more, but Tommy couldn't really hit the long ones today.
 
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Irish YJ said:
Good thing, but I think the point is, that's the best thing that happened.... weak sauce all around again. O, D, STs, coaching, etc.. IMO this is not a top 25 team. I guess we'll see over the next 3 games / 4 weeks, but outside of Tommy being consistent, there wasn't a whole lot to be pleased about. I do like that they aired it out a bit more, but Tommy couldn't really hit the long ones today.
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He hit several. In some cases the receiver ran the route too close to the sidelines to give him a chance. But the biggest knock on Tommy was his tendency to turn the ball over. He's not doing that.
 
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Irish YJ said:
Good thing, but I think the point is, that's the best thing that happened.... weak sauce all around again. O, D, STs, coaching, etc.. IMO this is not a top 25 team. I guess we'll see over the next 3 games / 4 weeks, but outside of Tommy being consistent, there wasn't a whole lot to be pleased about. I do like that they aired it out a bit more, but Tommy couldn't really hit the long ones today.
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I feel the same way. I don't think we should be ranked at this point.

IrishJayhawk said:
He hit several. In some cases the receiver ran the route too close to the sidelines to give him a chance. But the biggest knock on Tommy was his tendency to turn the ball over. He's not doing that.
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I agree, and his weak arm. Odd part is he over threw several receivers today with that weak arm.
 
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loomis41973 said:
Which is 1 more than last year. Offense, defense, playcalling are all worse than last year.

Two and a half tough games coming up, will tell us more.
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Wha?

We've won 15 of our last 17 games. One last year, one this year.

My point is this: People bitched about Purdue last year. Pitt. BC. BYU. But we won. What's consistent? We keep winning those games...somehow. I'd love to win by more. But I also love winning. I haven't been that nervous the last couple of games because I genuinely believe that we're going to win in the end. That's new.
 
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IrishJayhawk said:
He hit several. In some cases the receiver ran the route too close to the sidelines to give him a chance. But the biggest knock on Tommy was his tendency to turn the ball over. He's not doing that.
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If you call two, several (I would call it a few), then OK. The one to Robinson, and the one to Fuller are the only long ones. I believe at least one of them was underthrown. Truth is, we were the recipient of officiating generosity today (pass interfer). Without that generosity, it's a different game.

Point is, TR didn't turn it over, which is a good thing. Not a whole lot of anything other than that to be happy about (total team). TR did however have his lowest total output of the year. Give MSU some credit as they do have a good D, but playing calling again was pretty darn poor.

We'll be lucky to go 1-2 the next two games. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see a lot of improvement, nor do I see any consistency or flow to our O.
 
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IrishJayhawk said:
Wha?

We've won 15 of our last 17 games. One last year, one this year.

My point is this: People bitched about Purdue last year. Pitt. BC. BYU. But we won. What's consistent? We keep winning those games...somehow. I'd love to win by more. But I also love winning. I haven't been that nervous the last couple of games because I genuinely believe that we're going to win in the end. That's new.
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That's what people do.... lots more to bitch about this year.

Time to get your nerves worked back up the 2-3 weeks
 
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ND deserves to be ranked, for instance Washington has only beaten 1 semi good team in Boise st, while playing no ones after that. Today we beat the team that is most likely the 25th or 26th best team in country..BOTTOM line imo!
 
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Irish YJ said:
If you call two, several (I would call it a few), then OK. The one to Robinson, and the one to Fuller are the only long ones. I believe at least one of them was underthrown. Truth is, we were the recipient of officiating generosity today (pass interfer). Without that generosity, it's a different game.

Point is, TR didn't turn it over, which is a good thing. Not a whole lot of anything other than that to be happy about (total team). TR did however have his lowest total output of the year. Give MSU some credit as they do have a good D, but playing calling again was pretty darn poor.

We'll be lucky to go 1-2 the next two games. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see a lot of improvement, nor do I see any consistency or flow to our O.
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Maybe one or two of the PI calls were questionable, but they were also a biproduct of going deep.
 
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Lots of things not to like about this game, but I'll take a win and 3-1 record. MSU has a tough D, we neeed to be able to run but it.s tough to judge against that defense.

Next 3 games make or break season.
 
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Tuitt really came up huge at the end of that game. A huge sack, and a pressure on a 3rd down. Nix as well with a couple big batted balls/tips.
 
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andre784 said:
ND deserves to be ranked, for instance Washington has only beaten 1 semi good team in Boise st, while playing no ones after that. Today we beat the team that is most likely the 25th or 26th best team in country..BOTTOM line imo!
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Not to mention a top ten Georgia struggled with North Texas.
 
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andre784 said:
ND deserves to be ranked, for instance Washington has only beaten 1 semi good team in Boise st, while playing no ones after that. Today we beat the team that is most likely the 25th or 26th best team in country..BOTTOM line imo!
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I would not call MSU the 25th or 26th best team. They haven't beaten a decent team this year. I do agree Washington is overrated.
 
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Jay hawk has nailed it. These guys continue to find ways to win. It's hell watching but in the end I believe they can do it.
 
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Did anyone see Bret Beilema's interview after Wisconsin's loss last week? He made a point to state that knowing the officiating crew is an important aspect of coaching a game. Give credit where it is due. Obviously, our coaches played the hands that were dealt and used Michigan States aggressiveness against them. If anything, everyone here should be thanking Coach Dantonio for the victory for not adjusting the aggressiveness.

Who does the win go to in the end? The team with the most points on the board. Coach Kelly kept making calls based on the calls he was getting from the officiating crews, and Dantonio didn't adjust a thing. Hmm..lets think about this, I guess Kelly was outcoached.

Lets get on board with a team that played their butts off, and came away with a victory. Also, the coaching philosophy was spot on. Our staff dared their quarterback to beat us, and he couldn't. The simple fact of the matter is that the game is what it usually is, a slug fest, and we came out on top. Get over it.
 
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