Bus Driver Charged With Child Endangerment After Not Breaking Up A Jumping
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greyhammer90
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But no hate crime charge...
Double standard anyone?
Double standard anyone?
BleedBlueGold
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Omg. What is wrong with people?! Who doesn't try and stop that?! They could've killed that kid (or was there two getting beat?). Have they said what started it? Was it unprovoked? Hard to tell on that video (I don't have any sound). It looks like that kid was just sitting there...
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Bogtrotter07
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This video was from a news sequence about how the bus driver was being charged with child endangerment, neglect.
The only place that race comes into it is when inserted by the author of the thread.
The only place that race comes into it is when inserted by the author of the thread.
autry_denson
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There are lots of brutal fights that happen across the country on a daily basis. This one is disgusting to watch, so are all of the others.
That said, I'm not sure of the point in posting a link to a random fight on a Notre Dame football message board. And I raise my eyebrows a bit more when it's labeled as a "Racist beatdown..."
This site has more subtle (and sometimes explicit) racism on it then I would have ever imagined when I started following it closely to watch for recruiting updates. Have some decency here, please, this is ridiculous.
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Cackalacky
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I sense some unresolved issues from the GZ thread. Maybe the mods will close this one before it gets going.
Drivers are told/instructed never to intervene in these types of situations (read: lawsuits)...that cop had it wrong as far as saying he should have.
had to be real hard for the 74 yr old driver not to intervene, but he actuallly dd the right thing per his perview here.
i know hard to think and adult wouldnt jump in the middle...i would have...but this is the way supposed to handle these events.
ps...whats wrong with Florida?
had to be real hard for the 74 yr old driver not to intervene, but he actuallly dd the right thing per his perview here.
i know hard to think and adult wouldnt jump in the middle...i would have...but this is the way supposed to handle these events.
ps...whats wrong with Florida?
kmoose
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Not unresolved issues, but..........
it's kind of interesting how people rush to condemn the insinuation that race was a factor, in this incident; but demand that there is no other explanation, in the Zimmerman/Martin incident.
Yeah kmoose really needs to let it go.
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I locked the thread and will explain why. If other mods think I was too hasty, I'll reopen it... but this is trending in a bad direction quickly.
The reason I locked it is that I don't think the board really needs this "debate" right now... which will inevitably result in a lot of people getting pissed at each other and no one gaining anything of value.
The bottom line is that the merits of "hate crime" legislation has always been debated for specifically two reasons. The first is that - save for very rare instances - it is near impossible to discern what someone's motivations are. Unless the person wrote in their diary "I'm going to beat the crap out of some whitey today because he is white" then you cannot say definitively that it was race motivated. So I get what everyone is saying in that respect and it's 100% valid and accurate. None of us have definitive evidence from that short video clip that it was race motivated... for all we know the kid maybe ratted on them for cheating. There are many, many possible scenarios.
Alternatively, you better believe that if three whites beat the crap out of a defenseless black kid and a nearby adult did nothing to stop it... MSNBC, Al Sharpton & Co., and every Liberal blog on the internet would be calling for "hate crimes" and Obama would have the DoJ looking into civil rights violations. We know this because they did it with George Zimmerman where it was a much murkier situation than a clear cut 3-on-1 beat down of a kid trying to get off a bus. So please try to see that side of things.
The second reason why people debate the merits of "hate crimes" is that it's a weird thing to legislate against what is in someone's mind versus what their actions are. The three involved are all being charged with felony aggravated battery. Is that not sufficient? I think it is.
As an aside, there is a great West Wing episode from many years ago about hate crime legislation and the pitfalls/merits of it. I recommend everyone watch it.
The reason I locked it is that I don't think the board really needs this "debate" right now... which will inevitably result in a lot of people getting pissed at each other and no one gaining anything of value.
The bottom line is that the merits of "hate crime" legislation has always been debated for specifically two reasons. The first is that - save for very rare instances - it is near impossible to discern what someone's motivations are. Unless the person wrote in their diary "I'm going to beat the crap out of some whitey today because he is white" then you cannot say definitively that it was race motivated. So I get what everyone is saying in that respect and it's 100% valid and accurate. None of us have definitive evidence from that short video clip that it was race motivated... for all we know the kid maybe ratted on them for cheating. There are many, many possible scenarios.
Alternatively, you better believe that if three whites beat the crap out of a defenseless black kid and a nearby adult did nothing to stop it... MSNBC, Al Sharpton & Co., and every Liberal blog on the internet would be calling for "hate crimes" and Obama would have the DoJ looking into civil rights violations. We know this because they did it with George Zimmerman where it was a much murkier situation than a clear cut 3-on-1 beat down of a kid trying to get off a bus. So please try to see that side of things.
The second reason why people debate the merits of "hate crimes" is that it's a weird thing to legislate against what is in someone's mind versus what their actions are. The three involved are all being charged with felony aggravated battery. Is that not sufficient? I think it is.
As an aside, there is a great West Wing episode from many years ago about hate crime legislation and the pitfalls/merits of it. I recommend everyone watch it.
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