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Ugly. Will be shocked if he's back this year
GowerND11
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Forde's take on Noel's injury. It begs the question worth discussing.... Should the NBA, and possibly the NFL, get rid of the rule where you have to go to college for 1 year (3 for NFL) before going pro?
What if both professional leagues adopt the MLB rule of a player making the decision after high school to either turn pro or go to college. If he (she) decides they want to go to college, then they must go the full 4 years before going pro. It's a thought, since maybe student-athletes in college might actually be STUDENT-athletes. Thoughts?
Forde's take on Noel's injury. It begs the question worth discussing.... Should the NBA, and possibly the NFL, get rid of the rule where you have to go to college for 1 year (3 for NFL) before going pro?
What if both professional leagues adopt the MLB rule of a player making the decision after high school to either turn pro or go to college. If he (she) decides they want to go to college, then they must go the full 4 years before going pro. It's a thought, since maybe student-athletes in college might actually be STUDENT-athletes. Thoughts?
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No way you can do this in football, kids physically would get killed. I do agree that basketball should be a 2 year min.
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I agree, but I do think a rule like that would bring some integrity back to college football. If a player believes he, as an 18 year old, can make it in the NFL that would be his choice. He chose football over school. It seems that MLB has it right, but again they have a stable farm system that can help achieve this balance in the MLB. NBA and NFL do not, so if a kid chose that route he could be screwed. Just food for thought.
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They should be able to go pro right out of high school.
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I guess they should be able to in basketball and no way in hell for football. I really think all these kids should finish school though regardless of draft status so they have something to fall back on. I'm all for the pro's, but I'm more pro education. That's one of the reasons I root for ND, the emphasis on a lifetime of success truly should be what all Universities are selling.
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Yeah for b-ball they should. It's a joke that they have to go to school for a year. Kentucky is basically like a pro team with the way they operate anyways, so I guess going to Kentucky is as good as the NBA. Stern's basically ruined college b-ball with this rule but it is what it is.
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I think football should go back to the rule where you can come out after your sophomore year. It's ridiculous that a player like Clowney has to stay in college next year, when he is probably going to be done with school after the Fall semester anyway.
Basketball is easy for me. Either declare out of high school, or go to college for at least two years. This one-and-done nonsense is so idiotic.
Basketball is easy for me. Either declare out of high school, or go to college for at least two years. This one-and-done nonsense is so idiotic.
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Sorry for the length...
Personally, I think it's absolutely ridiculous for this rule to be in place (for basketball) with their reasoning for it. The rule was proposed implemented for "maturity/educational" reasons...However, how much maturity is to be gained in that year from 18 to 19? Sure, it may help teams in the NBA to evaluate a player's skill set against better competition, but if teams aren't willing to take the risk, they shouldn't take a high school player in the draft. Nobody has ever said that teams HAVE TO take a player straight out of high school, but to claim that it's in place for the best interest of the athlete is flat out dishonest. Also, the claim that the NCAA or NBA truly care about athletes getting their education, as it relates to basketball, is equally absurd. Potential lottery pick freshmen don't really even attend classes their 2nd semester due to the tournament and prep for the combine, therefore, what's the point really...Exploitation by the NCAA and a sense of "security" as it relates to NBA front offices.
I personally believe that the system should be that a high school player should be:
If undrafted: Be able to then sign with the college of their choice, but not be able to declare again until after their 3rd season of college ball (Should allow for most players to be near a degree) or take a chance and sign somewhere overseas, whereby they'll be eligible for the following year's draft.
If drafted: Either sign right then or (in the case that the draft position is not of their liking), that the team who drafted them still own the rights to that player upon their 3yr stint in college. At that time, teams can trade for the rights of that player for appropriate compensation.
Roster sizes in the NBA don't allow for a MLB like draft, but players that drafted out of high school aren't eligible for the draft until after their RS So./Jr. season...
Personally, I think it's absolutely ridiculous for this rule to be in place (for basketball) with their reasoning for it. The rule was proposed implemented for "maturity/educational" reasons...However, how much maturity is to be gained in that year from 18 to 19? Sure, it may help teams in the NBA to evaluate a player's skill set against better competition, but if teams aren't willing to take the risk, they shouldn't take a high school player in the draft. Nobody has ever said that teams HAVE TO take a player straight out of high school, but to claim that it's in place for the best interest of the athlete is flat out dishonest. Also, the claim that the NCAA or NBA truly care about athletes getting their education, as it relates to basketball, is equally absurd. Potential lottery pick freshmen don't really even attend classes their 2nd semester due to the tournament and prep for the combine, therefore, what's the point really...Exploitation by the NCAA and a sense of "security" as it relates to NBA front offices.
I personally believe that the system should be that a high school player should be:
If undrafted: Be able to then sign with the college of their choice, but not be able to declare again until after their 3rd season of college ball (Should allow for most players to be near a degree) or take a chance and sign somewhere overseas, whereby they'll be eligible for the following year's draft.
If drafted: Either sign right then or (in the case that the draft position is not of their liking), that the team who drafted them still own the rights to that player upon their 3yr stint in college. At that time, teams can trade for the rights of that player for appropriate compensation.
Roster sizes in the NBA don't allow for a MLB like draft, but players that drafted out of high school aren't eligible for the draft until after their RS So./Jr. season...
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See Marcus Lattimore...so true!