Revisiting our recruiting classes since 2002 to 2005

[Irish Envy]

2002 (18 Commits)

5 Stars
DT Derek Landri
WR Rhema McKnight

4 Stars
QB Chris Olsen (Transferred to Virginia)
OL Bob Morton
WR Maurice Stovall
TE Anthony Fasano
DE Travis Leitko (Left team)
TE Brian Mattes
DT Jamie Ryan (Career Ending Back Injury)
RB Nate Schiccatano
TE Marcus Freeman
OL James Bonelli

3 Stars
S Jake Carney
DE Chris Frome
RB Jeff Jenkins
OL Scott Raridon

2 Stars
DE Dan Santucci

1 Star
CB Mike Richardson

2003 (22 Commits)

5 Star
TE Greg Olsen (Transferred to Miami)

4 Star
S Tommy Zbikowski
OL Ryan Harris
S Freddie Parrish (Transferred to Sam Houston State)
OL John Sullivan
DE Vic Abiamiri
DT Trevor Laws
QB Brady Quinn
CB Ambrose Wooden
RB Travis Thomas
RB Isiah Gardiner (Transferred to Maryland)
WR Chinedum Nduwke
WR Jeff Samardzija

3 Star
P Geoffrey Price
TE John Carlson
CB LaBrose Hedgemon
LB Mitchell Thomas
RB Ashley McConnell
WR Chase Anastacio
LB Joe Brockington
DE Dwight Stephenson

2 Star
LB Nick Borseti

1 Star
None

2004 (17 Commits)

5 Star
None

4 Star
CB Terrail Lambert
RB Justin Hoskins
LB Anthony Vernaglia

3 Star
RB Darius Walker
CB Leo Ferrine
DT Brandon Nicolas (Left team)
QB David Wolke
S Junior Jabbie
OL Chauncey Incarnato (Transferred to Indiana)
LB Maurice Crum, Jr.
DE Ronald Talley
WR Chris Vaughn (Transferred to Louisville)
OL John Kadous (Left team)

2 Star
QB Darrin Bragg
DE Justin Brown
S Tregg Duerson (Left team)
LB Abdel Banda

1 Star
None

2005 (15 Commits)

5 Star
None

4 Star
OL Mike Turkovic
WR DJ Hord
TE Joey Hiben
QB Evan Sharpley
OL Paul Duncan

3 Star
FB Asaph Schwap
LB Steve Quinn
LB Scott Smith
WR David Grimes
DT Pat Kuntz
S Kevin Washington
DT Derrell Hand
S Ray Herring
S David Bruton

2 Star
CB Kyle McCarthy

1 Star
None

 

[Irish Envy]

Recruiting Summary (2002-2005)

5 Star: 3 Players
4 Star: 30 Players
3 Star: 31 Players
2 Star: 7 Players
1 Star: 1 Player

 

[BGIF]

I don't know the source of the list but there are some inaccuracies. In some cases the position listed appears to be their college position not their high school recruiting ranking position while in others high school position is listed. Mike Richardson and Ambrose Wooden were listed as WR recruits although they play CB now. I suspect the confusion is caused by Scout using the same database for recruiting that they use for NCAA play and NFL play. As they update to keep current they change the original data.

The list doesn't include at least one ND recruit. Greg (Mary Kate) Olson TE, committed to ND in '03 is not listed and if you check with Scout.com they have him listed as a Miami recruit although he signed an '03 LOI with ND and transferred to Miami when he QB brother (Ashley) transferred.

There may be others inaccuracies those stood out.

 

[BGIF]

In '03 Greg Olsen was the #1 TE, 5 Stars

 

[Irish Envy]

You're correct. I'm going back over things now and adding transfers and things Scout had incorrect.

 

[BGIF]

When did Junior Jabbie transfer?

 

[jiggafini19]

This thread is giving me heartburn.

 

[bigdon]

In '03 Greg Olsen was the #1 TE, 5 Stars

Olsen is on the list. It says he "transfered to Miami" but that might be technically incorrect. As I recall he signed a LOI and reported to ND but asked to be released from that letter when his brother transferred. TY granted that release and he immediately went to Miami ( where he played as a freshman).

 

[scooper]

When did Junior Jabbie transfer?

He didn't. He's still on the roster as a rb.

 

[Irish Envy]

This thread is giving me heartburn.

And I'm doing it all for you. Trying to figure out the number of scholies in 2007.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=3&c=ScholarshipBD - Does anyone know how accurate they are with their additional eligibility markings?

 

[Irish Envy]

When did Junior Jabbie transfer?

Clerical error.

 

[BGIF]

Olsen is on the list. It says he "transfered to Miami" but that might be technically incorrect. As I recall he signed a LOI and reported to ND but asked to be released from that letter when his brother transferred. TY granted that release and he immediately went to Miami ( where he played as a freshman).

Don,

Olsen wasn't on the list at the time I posted. Check my post time versus Svoboda's "edit" time.

Olsen did sign with ND and did report and was released to go to Miami when after his brother transferred. Scout.com has it listed incorrectly as a Miami recruit - that's where the problem is. He did NOT sign as a high school recruit with Miami.

 

[Irish Envy]

I believe all of the transfers and players that left the team are not 100% accurate. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[BGIF]

Clerical error.

Ok!

Considering Jabbie's bizarre (IMO) position change (CB to RB) at his request and the depth at the RB, it wouldn't be a shock. I thought maybe you had a piece of news I had missed.


BTW, Nicolas left the team last 8/18. I believe he left school (transfer) but I can't find where in my notes or depth chart.

 

[Irish Envy]

Ok!

Considering Jabbie's bizarre (IMO) position change (CB to RB) at his request and the depth at the RB, it wouldn't be a shock. I thought maybe you had a piece of news I had missed.

BTW, Nicolas left the team last 8/18. I believe he left school (transfer) but I can't find where in my notes or depth chart.

Just found that article on UND.com when I noticed he wasn't on the roster.

 

[jiggafini19]

And I'm doing it all for you. Trying to figure out the number of scholies in 2007.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=3&c=ScholarshipBD - Does anyone know how accurate they are with their additional eligibility markings?

I've asked around. It will depend on fifth year guys coming back. We know Fasano is out.

We'll know more soon. I can't see any reason why they won't be able to take the full 25 again, plus more with EE.

Damn Willingham, damn broccoli and damn the Wright Brothers!!

 

[BGIF]

And I'm doing it all for you. Trying to figure out the number of scholies in 2007.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=3&c=ScholarshipBD - Does anyone know how accurate they are with their additional eligibility markings?

Trying to figure out scholarships for '07 as this point is a crapshoot. I can tell you how many were recruited by class and how many are left. But no one knows who the '06 5th years will be much less the number of 5th years in '07. And there has been no announcement of attrition due to injuries, transfers, or academics for '06 (and beyond). Now factor in Kadous MAY be back on scholarship and possible walkons getting scholarships like Cullen who doesn't appear on a LOI list.

Then we have the Clausen factor. As he's the designated winner of more Heisman's than Ron Powlus (who at least had completed his HS career when Beano issued the curse) how many of the QBs stay after Jimmy arrives on campus in Jan '07 (which could create an additional 2-3 slots before Signing Day if posters are to be believed).

 

[irishnd31]

Mike Richardson...a one star? I am now a believer in the star system.

 

[BGIF]

I've asked around. It will depend on fifth year guys coming back. We know Fasano is out.

We'll know more soon. I can't see any reason why they won't be able to take the full 25 again, plus more with EE.

Damn Willingham, damn broccoli and damn the Wright Brothers!!

Fasano is immaterial. He would have used up his eligibility in '06. Same for Leitko.

Does Sullivan go NFL or stay for '07?

 

[jiggafini19]

Fasano is immaterial. He would have used up his eligibility in '06. Same for Leitko.

Does Sullivan go NFL or stay for '07?

That's a tough one. He's about 6-4, 280 right now, right? Would need to gain strength for the NFL.

He became a starter against Purdue and never relinquished the spot. I can't see him being a day one draft choice. But how many stud centers are out there?

I think he comes back.

 

[BGIF]

That's a tough one. He's about 6-4, 280 right now, right? Would need to gain strength for the NFL.

He became a starter against Purdue and never relinquished the spot. I can't see him being a day one draft choice. But how many stud centers are out there?

I think he comes back.

So do I at this time but the point is it impacts the number of '07 slots.