Bama's Dial is NOT set to recieve suspension from SEC.

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WHAT!! the SEC cares more about winning than integrity! I am shocked. SHOCKED!
 

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I always thought he would play in the bowl game. Figured they would pull a Jim Tressell and suspend him for a game next year ala Terrell Prior and company.

I figured they would suspend him for the Colorado State and Georgia State games of next year or something along those lines.
 

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I figured the SEC would come out and say Murray deserved the hit for almost upsetting the beloved Tide.
 

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I figured the SEC would come out and say Murray deserved the hit for almost upsetting the beloved Tide.

Murray just having the thought in his brain that it was a possibly of beating the Tide is wrong. He totally got what was coming to him.
 
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(Dial walks into Saban's office)

Saban: "That hit you got alot of people upset. So I got to pretend to be mad at you"

Dial: "I'm really sorry" (Dial winks at Saban)

Saban: "We won't suspend you if you promise never to do it again"

Dial: "Okay coach I won't" (wink)

Saban: "Alright if anyone ask you tell them I yelled at you and really hurt your feelings and that you know that hit was unaccaptable. Understand?"

Dial: "Yes sir coach"

(They shake hands and Dial walks out of the office)
 

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This isn't the NFL. You all know that. In college the QB becomes any regular player after a turnover. There is NO special protection for him, unlike the NFL who has put special rules in place.

All potential dirty hits are reviewed after the weekends games. Regardless of who gets hit. So the SEC looked at this, and treated it no differently than a WR putting a wicked block on a LB. To my knowledge they have not suspended any players for blocks this year.
 

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This isn't the NFL. You all know that. In college the QB becomes any regular player after a turnover. There is NO special protection for him, unlike the NFL who has put special rules in place.

All potential dirty hits are reviewed after the weekends games. Regardless of who gets hit. So the SEC looked at this, and treated it no differently than a WR putting a wicked block on a LB. To my knowledge they have not suspended any players for blocks this year.

Yet they suspended an Ole Miss safety if I recall for a hit over the middle on a receiver where he led with his shoulder right into the guy's chest and their reasoning for it was a hit on a "defenseless player"...GTFOH with that nonsense
 

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and isn't that it was a nasty block that people are mad about, he led with the crown of his helmet and struck a "defenseless player" in the head...much different that what you're making it out to be #fact
 

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Yet they suspended an Ole Miss safety if I recall for a hit over the middle on a receiver where he led with his shoulder right into the guy's chest and their reasoning for it was a hit on a "defenseless player"...GTFOH with that nonsense

It was a USC player against UAB. Top of defenders helmet (The top, not the facemask) went squarely into the facemask of the WR. Apples and Oranges my friend. The side of Dial's helmet was at the base of Murray's facemask. He also extended his arms in the hit, and used his shoulder.

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This isn't the NFL. You all know that. In college the QB becomes any regular player after a turnover. There is NO special protection for him, unlike the NFL who has put special rules in place.

All potential dirty hits are reviewed after the weekends games. Regardless of who gets hit. So the SEC looked at this, and treated it no differently than a WR putting a wicked block on a LB. To my knowledge they have not suspended any players for blocks this year.

Helmet to helmet still a penalty, block or not. Plus it was totally uncalled for. Not even near the play if I remember correctly. I mean who actually worried that Murray was going to make the tackle?
 

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I actually don't think Quiten Dial playing will have too much of an affect on the outcome.

That being said I have great deal of respect for the game of football and I want to see it play the right way. I coach a 7th/8th grade football team and try my best to teach safe blocking and tackling.

One thing I will not stand is BS cheep shots. It doesn't happen often but a kid that I coach cheep shots he is going out of the game and is staying out for a long time.

In my judgement the Dial hit was a cheep shot. He should be punished for it. Not because it will help ND but because of principle.
 

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It was a USC player against UAB. Top of defenders helmet (The top, not the facemask) went squarely into the facemask of the WR. Apples and Oranges my friend. The side of Dial's helmet was at the base of Murray's facemask. He also extended his arms in the hit, and used his shoulder.

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This hit received a 1 game suspension from the SEC...He wasn't flagged on the play...Now, tell me this hit was more egregious than Dial's, and I'll call you full of it...lol
 

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This hit received a 1 game suspension from the SEC...He wasn't flagged on the play...Now, tell me this hit was more egregious than Dial's, and I'll call you full of it...lol

Not full of it. Frankly my response to you is that he shouldn't have been suspended either. But back to my original point, I don't recall a player being suspended for a block. Do you know how many hits similar to Dial's happen in the SEC throughout the year on KO's? Punt returns? Countless.

Also, I am not saying Dial should have done it. Not saying it wasn't cheap. Just explaining why they didn't suspend him. If it makes you feel any better they didn't suspend the eye gouge that happened to Dee Millner either.
 

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Not full of it. Frankly my response to you is that he shouldn't have been suspended either. But back to my original point, I don't recall a player being suspended for a block. Do you know how many hits similar to Dial's happen in the SEC throughout the year on KO's? Punt returns? Countless.

Also, I am not saying Dial should have done it. Not saying it wasn't cheap. Just explaining why they didn't suspend him. If it makes you feel any better they didn't suspend the eye gouge that happened to Dee Millner either.

Look...I don't care that Dial isn't suspended...but when Elston was suspended, the precedent was set...That became "the bar" for all subsequent hits...and all I was trying to get across was that Dial's hit fit the bill...If looking at it on its own, should he be suspended...no...but given the prior actions of the SEC, for them to not lay the same penalty on Dial is laughable...that's all good day
 

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Look...I don't care that Dial isn't suspended...but when Elston was suspended, the precedent was set...That became "the bar" for all subsequent hits...and all I was trying to get across was that Dial's hit fit the bill...If looking at it on its own, should he be suspended...no...but given the prior actions of the SEC, for them to not lay the same penalty on Dial is laughable...that's all good day

Gotcha. Have a good one
 

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I'm not surprised in the least, but it's still shocking to me that the SEC, and the NCAA at large, continues to eschew ethics and legitimacy in the face of ratings, success, and money.

Oh wait, no it's not.
 

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I'm not surprised in the least, but it's still shocking to me that the SEC, and the NCAA at large, continues to eschew ethics and legitimacy in the face of ratings, success, and money.

Oh wait, no it's not.

Had Tuitt done that, do you think he plays in the NCG?

I do.
 

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This why an ND win would mean so much.

When you look at what ND stands for and what the SEC stands for. If the Bama wins it doesn't mean much. If ND wins however, it means a great deal for the ethics of college football.

Not that ND or ND players are perfect but it is a place that tries to do the right thing and uphold the right values.
 

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This why an ND win would mean so much.

When you look at what ND stands for and what the SEC stands for. If the Bama wins it doesn't mean much. If ND wins however, it means a great deal for the ethics of college football.

Not that ND or ND players are perfect but it is a place that tries to do the right thing and uphold the right values.

Wait....huh? Are you saying that Alabama isn't a place that tries to do the right things and uphold the right kinds of values?
 

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Wait....huh? Are you saying that Alabama isn't a place that tries to do the right things and uphold the right kinds of values?

Before this devolves into a fight (and you inevitably get banned), there is a significant disparity between Saban's aggressive roster management techniques (oversigning, liberal use of gray-shirting and medicals, pushing out underperformers, etc.) and the way ND treats its athletes. That disparity is partly reflected, among other things, in the schools' GSR figures: ND graduates 100% of its African American football players, while 'Bama only graduates 68%.

So yes, ND fans believe that our school does things "the right way", while 'Bama is a football factory which has no problem kicking kids to the curb if they can't make the two-deep. If you'd like to rebut that premise, please link to some evidence, because that's going to be a tough sell here.

You may just want to leave it alone.
 
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