Who wants Alabama

[woolybug25]

Why would I do that? I haven't done that here. Could you point out where I have said anything about one of ND's NC's not being legitimate? I think you have it backwards. It's ND fans who have pro-actively came after me saying that Alabama's titles don't count. What are you talking about?

In post #49, you specifically claim that that we shouldn't be claiming the '73 title. Which is certainly an example of you not saying one of our titles isn't legitimate. So what in the **ck are you talking about?

Just leave. You are not only too arrogant to be here, but too stupid as well. That has nothing to do with you being a Bama fan either. Just you as a person.

 

[CtrlAltDel]

If you use y'all in a sentence on the internet I have permision to look down on you.

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

 

[ACamp1900]

ND and MSU claim a split national title, and Alabama finished third in voting despite starting the season ranked #1. We do not claim this title.

Then don't and let go... you guys may not cliam it, but you sure do whine about it........ constantly. Notre Dame beat FSU on the field four years after ND lost a title claim because everyone said "it matters who won head to head" when ND lost to Miami in 89... yet th logic flipped completely four years later... surely ND 'deserves' one of the two... but it is what it is... you don't see us cry about it and write self entitled books on the subject... let. it. go.

 

[woolybug25]

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

Dude... my dad has lived in Charleston, SC for three decades and half of the posters on here are from the south. We didn't once claim any of the things you are accusing us of. We just told you are stupid and you haven't made a single post to prove us otherwise.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Why would I do that? I haven't done that here. Could you point out where I have said anything about one of ND's NC's not being legitimate? I think you have it backwards. It's ND fans who have pro-actively came after me saying that Alabama's titles don't count. What are you talking about?

Whatever you want to say about titles before I was born, whatever. I will leave that to Wooly and those with better knowledge than me, as it is a little above my pay grade. And I'm not here to bash, and I don't come with hostility.

However, I have a little knowledge of '73, even though I wasn't born. 'Bama loses to ND in the bowl game. 'Bama claims the national title, with 3 other teams with better records than them, because the UPI ranked them higher before the bowl game.

So you glorify 'Bama by playing in bowl games, saying they deserve it (and, by insinuation, say that other teams who opted out of the bowl games do not deserve it), yet you lose the bowl game and claim the title anyway. I'm sorry, but your argument is restricted to its mutual exclusivity. Can't have it both ways.

And you are right. 1941 is bogus.

 

[CtrlAltDel]

In post #49, you specifically claim that that we shouldn't be claiming the '73 title. Which is certainly an example of you not saying one of our titles isn't legitimate. So what in the **ck are you talking about?

Just leave. You are not only too arrogant to be here, but too stupid as well. That has nothing to do with you being a Bama fan either. Just you as a person.

I have no idea what some of you are so angry about. We are just discussing football. I haven't attacked anyone, verbally abused anyone, or anything, really.

Now, are far as you saying that in post #49 I claimed ND didn't deserve or have a legitimate NC in '73, that is a total fabrication on your part.

I'm not sure why you would want to put a perception out there that I have said that. Anyone can read the post and clearly see that you have misrepresented, for what reason I'm not sure, what was said.

 

[ickythump1225]

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

 

[woolybug25]

Whatever you want to say about titles before I was born, whatever. I will leave that to Wooly and those with better knowledge than me, as it is a little above my pay grade. And I'm not here to bash, and I don't come with hostility.

However, I have a little knowledge of '73, even though I wasn't born. 'Bama loses to ND in the bowl game. 'Bama claims the national title, with 3 other teams with better records than them, because the UPI ranked them higher before the bowl game.

So you glorify 'Bama by playing in bowl games, saying they deserve it (and, by insinuation, say that other teams who opted out of the bowl games do not deserve it), yet you lose the bowl game and claim the title anyway. I'm sorry, but your argument is restricted to its mutual exclusivity. Can't have it both ways.

And you are right. 1941 is bogus.

Doesn't look like you are "above your pay grade". That is the exact reasoning of the '73 title. The fact that they claim a title that they lost their bowl game to us in a season we went undefeated in is ridiculous.

Reps/

 

[Grahambo]

Why would I do that? I haven't done that here. Could you point out where I have said anything about one of ND's NC's not being legitimate? I think you have it backwards. It's ND fans who have pro-actively came after me saying that Alabama's titles don't count. What are you talking about?

 

[PraetorianND]

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

I have lived in the West (California, Utah, Colorado, and Oregon), Midwest (Indiana), South (Alabama, Texas, and Mississippi). Specifically I lived in Montgomery, AL and Biloxi, MS. Those two places don't represent the entire South but I can tell you they are the worst two places I have been in the Western World for a variety of reasons including: obesity (classic I know but it's disgusting), racism (classic I know but I was called cracker and white boy more times living in MS and AL than in the rest of my life combined), those cities were entirely devoid of culture, people were RUDE, and uneducated to the point of being incomprehensible at times.

Now I know all of the South isn't like that but from what I've experienced the stereotypes you mention are completely true.

 

[greyhammer90]

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

I grew up in Tennessee, and now live in Georgia.

Take a lesson from the man:

 

[PraetorianND]

I have no idea what some of you are so angry about. We are just discussing football. I haven't attacked anyone, verbally abused anyone, or anything, really.

Now, are far as you saying that in post #49 I claimed ND didn't deserve or have a legitimate NC in '73, that is a total fabrication on your part.

I'm not sure why you would want to put a perception out there that I have said that. Anyone can read the post and clearly see that you have misrepresented, for what reason I'm not sure, what was said.

See post #91.

 

[wakeuptheechoes]

So many people know so very little about college football. Sometimes I think it would be nice if we could wipe their slates clean and reprogram them with more knowledge than they currently possess.

Allow me to fill you in on the truth of Alabama's championships, untainted by derision and falsehoods. Keep in mind that a shared NC, in times past, was a NC. Also, keep in mind that we can't apply BCS rules of present times to times past because that is just not how things work.

Also, if Alabama won a UPI trophy one season and another team won an AP trophy the same season, Alabama were still NC's. Of course, the other team was also. Alabama was never so powerful to be able to tell the AP or UPI when or how to award their beautiful trophies. It would have been quite rude of Alabama to simply refuse to accept an AP trophy or a UPI trophy because we didn't agree with whether or not they awarded trophies before or after bowl games. That was their business, not Alabama's.

Pre-WW-II, the Rose Bowl was, in fact, considered a de-facto NC game as it was the only post season game with any prominence whatsoever. Any pre-war title claim based on the Rose Bowl is as solid as it gets.

But by the 1940's there were so many bowls popping up that they came to be seen as little more than exhibition games (esp after the Rose began its Pac-10/Big-10 tie in). SO, by the 1950's, Polls are really all that should count - but remember that AP was NOT a respected selector by ANY stretch of the imagination until they changed their voting rules in 1958. UPI was the only respected poll until that time.

The fact is that Polls chose to name champions before the bowls simply reflects the opinion of the country. Bowls were not considered particularly meaningful until the late '60's to early '70's - basically when TV became a huge part of the game. That's why AP didn't permanently switch to post-bowl polls until around '68 and UPI didn't until '74.

Every argument about out 1973 title being bogus only "proves" that we should have been named champion in '77. Any argument about our 1964 Title only "proves" that we were robbed in 1966.
If you think 1941 sucks, then explain 1945?

In 1977 the two teams didn't play. they did in 73 that's apples and oranges. In 66 you really need to look beyond the record and look at the overall stats that year. I believe there are still some records regarding ND's season that have not been broken.

 

[woolybug25]

I have no idea what some of you are so angry about. We are just discussing football. I haven't attacked anyone, verbally abused anyone, or anything, really.

Now, are far as you saying that in post #49 I claimed ND didn't deserve or have a legitimate NC in '73, that is a total fabrication on your part.

I'm not sure why you would want to put a perception out there that I have said that. Anyone can read the post and clearly see that you have misrepresented, for what reason I'm not sure, what was said.

This is a fabrication?

No, we were awarded a national championship by the UPI. You probably know it as the Coaches poll. It's not a People's National Championship; it's legit.

In 1973, who was a humble Alabama team to decline to accept one of the most prestigious NC trophies in the history of the sport? That would have been rude of us and quite arrogant.

I realize many believe that Alabama should have dictated to the UPI how they should have operated their poll and chastised them for even dare approach us with their beautiful trophy.

If Alabama were honest, they would have told the UPI presenters that one day, almost 5 decades later, there would be posters on the Internet who didn't agree with their methods and thought that football began in the year 2000 or so and they just couldn't accept it.

They should have told the UPI that one day in the future, there would be this conglomeration of colleges who joined something called the BCS and the BCS rules wouldn't be the same as they were in 1973 so, they could not in good spirit accept their award.

Y'all are funny.

'73 is one of the 15 titles that you have claimed several times in this thread. Are you seriously this dense?

 

[CtrlAltDel]

Whatever you want to say about titles before I was born, whatever. I will leave that to Wooly and those with better knowledge than me, as it is a little above my pay grade. And I'm not here to bash, and I don't come with hostility.

However, I have a little knowledge of '73, even though I wasn't born. 'Bama loses to ND in the bowl game. 'Bama claims the national title, with 3 other teams with better records than them, because the UPI ranked them higher before the bowl game.

So you glorify 'Bama by playing in bowl games, saying they deserve it (and, by insinuation, say that other teams who opted out of the bowl games do not deserve it), yet you lose the bowl game and claim the title anyway. I'm sorry, but your argument is restricted to its mutual exclusivity. Can't have it both ways.

And you are right. 1941 is bogus.

You have taken what I said and made it into something it isn't because you just don't understand things properly. It's not a big deal; you just don't have a good grasp of college football history.

Alabama being awarded a national championship by an entity that had just as much, or more, validity than the AP does not mean that ND does not also have a valid title from the year '73.

Some of you have a "there can be only one" mentality that is totally a modern state of mind in concern of college football. Because of this, many of you take things the wrong way when you read it and ASSUME things that haven't been said at all.

30 years from now, people on the Internet will probably agree that the BCS was a sham and that no NC's from our time period are valid but, they will also be wrong.

Athletes live in their own time and play during their own time, not in the future or in the past. The rules that govern them today are the ones that are valid; not what may be the rule in the future.

 

[ickythump1225]

I have no idea what some of you are so angry about. We are just discussing football. I haven't attacked anyone, verbally abused anyone, or anything, really.

Now, are far as you saying that in post #49 I claimed ND didn't deserve or have a legitimate NC in '73, that is a total fabrication on your part.

I'm not sure why you would want to put a perception out there that I have said that. Anyone can read the post and clearly see that you have misrepresented, for what reason I'm not sure, what was said.

You come here full of arrogance and an air of faux-civility, you belittle those who had the audacity to be born after you, claim Notre Dame doesn't deserve some of their titles while using contrary logic to claim Alabama deserves more titles, and then lie about it! This forum has NO problem allowing opponents and potential opponents in here, some OU posters were great dudes who added to the forum.

You can't come to a ND forum, stir up crap, and then claim persecution. I would never register for an Alabama forum, but if I did I wouldn't expect hospitality if I talked crap and then cried about "bigotry" and "uneducated fans."

 

[woolybug25]

You have taken what I said and made it into something it isn't because you just don't understand things properly. It's not a big deal; you just don't have a good grasp of college football history.

Alabama being awarded a national championship by an entity that had just as much, or more, validity than the AP does not mean that ND does not also have a valid title from the year '73.

Some of you have a "there can be only one" mentality that is totally a modern state of mind in concern of college football. Because of this, many of you take things the wrong way when you read it and ASSUME things that hasn't been said at all.

30 years from now, people on the Internet will probably agree that the BCS was a sham and that no NC's from our time period are valid but, they will also be wrong.

Athletes live in their own time and play during their own time, not in the future or in the past. The rules that govern them today are the ones that are valid; not what may be the rule in the future.

We get that your retarded argument of "well...well...well, you guys could claim them too". But that isn't even our point. We don't see Bama fans not claiming that they dont have the most titles, do we? As I said before, if we claimed titles the way you and other Bama fans do... then we would be leading with 23.

 

[Grahambo]

You have taken what I said and made it into something it isn't because you just don't understand things properly. It's not a big deal; you just don't have a good grasp of college football history.

Alabama being awarded a national championship by an entity that had just as much, or more, validity than the AP does not mean that ND does not also have a valid title from the year '73.

Some of you have a "there can be only one" mentality that is totally a modern state of mind in concern of college football. Because of this, many of you take things the wrong way when you read it and ASSUME things that haven't been said at all.

30 years from now, people on the Internet will probably agree that the BCS was a sham and that no NC's from our time period are valid but, they will also be wrong.

Athletes live in their own time and play during their own time, not in the future or in the past. The rules that govern them today are the ones that are valid; not what may be the rule in the future.

1973 college football season - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1973 Sugar Bowl (National Title Game): ND 24 - Alabama 23

In its inaugural season, Division I had two NCAA-recognized national champions, and they faced each other at year's end in the Sugar Bowl. The New Orleans game matched two unbeaten teams, the Alabama Crimson Tide (11-0-0), ranked #1 by AP and UPI, and the Notre Dame Fighting Irish (10–0), ranked #3 by AP and #4 by UPI.

While both wire services ranked Alabama #1 at the end of the regular season, AP took another poll after the bowl games. By agreement with the American Football Coaches' Association, however, UPI bestowed its championship before the postseason bowl games. Thus, Alabama was crowned champion by UPI on December 4, 1973.[3] UPI ranked Notre Dame #4. One coach had given the Irish a first place vote, compared to 21 for Alabama.

In a game where the lead changed six times, Notre Dame won by a single point, 24–23, to claim the national championship. During the 20th Century, the NCAA had no playoff for the college football teams that would later be described as "Division I-A". The NCAA Football Guide, however, did note an "unofficial national champion" based on the top ranked teams in the "wire service" (AP and UPI) polls. The "writers' poll" by Associated Press (AP) was the most popular, followed by the "coaches' poll" by United Press International) (UPI). In 1973, the UPI issued its final poll before the bowls, but the AP Trophy was withheld until the postseason was completed. The AP poll in 1973 consisted of the votes of as many as 63 sportswriters and broadcasters, though not all of them voted in every poll. UPI's voting was made by 34 coaches. Those who cast votes would give their opinion of the ten best teams. Under a point system of 20 points for first place, 19 for second, etc., the "overall" ranking was determined.

 

[PraetorianND]

You have taken what I said and made it into something it isn't because you just don't understand things properly. It's not a big deal; you just don't have a good grasp of college football history.

Alabama being awarded a national championship by an entity that had just as much, or more, validity than the AP does not mean that ND does not also have a valid title from the year '73.

Some of you have a "there can be only one" mentality that is totally a modern state of mind in concern of college football. Because of this, many of you take things the wrong way when you read it and ASSUME things that haven't been said at all.

30 years from now, people on the Internet will probably agree that the BCS was a sham and that no NC's from our time period are valid but, they will also be wrong.

Athletes live in their own time and play during their own time, not in the future or in the past. The rules that govern them today are the ones that are valid; not what may be the rule in the future.

Valid point but you still say the title belonged to Bama in 77 implying that it did not belong to ND. Tell me ND deserved to be co-NC and I'll let it go.

 

[CtrlAltDel]

This is a fabrication?



'73 is one of the 15 titles that you have claimed several times in this thread. Are you seriously this dense?

What about '73? Alabama won a NC that season. I understand that ND did also. The UPI trophy from that particular season is beautiful, and big. I don't know what it is but, that season's trophy was really, really overdone and fancy. It stands out as almost gaudy.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

You have taken what I said and made it into something it isn't because you just don't understand things properly. It's not a big deal; you just don't have a good grasp of college football history.

Alabama being awarded a national championship by an entity that had just as much, or more, validity than the AP does not mean that ND does not also have a valid title from the year '73.

Some of you have a "there can be only one" mentality that is totally a modern state of mind in concern of college football. Because of this, many of you take things the wrong way when you read it and ASSUME things that haven't been said at all.

30 years from now, people on the Internet will probably agree that the BCS was a sham and that no NC's from our time period are valid but, they will also be wrong.

Athletes live in their own time and play during their own time, not in the future or in the past. The rules that govern them today are the ones that are valid; not what may be the rule in the future.

Sorry if I was not clear enough for you. I'm not arguing that you should not have the title because it is unfair, for Notre Dame, to have a split title. And I'm not arguing that you should not have the title because it somehow relegates ND's title to a lower status. That isn't what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Alabama should not claim a title that year, period.

I also never said that "there should be only one." Again, a split title, whatever. I don't have much knowledge on that. But again, I am saying that Alabama should not have a title in '73. You cannot logically argue that teams from the 40s-70s should get more credit for playing in a bowl game, and lose, than those that didn't (like ND, in your words) and claimed a title. You argue the legitimacy of your '73 title when you played in the bowl game, lost, and claimed a pre-bowl title anyway. You are claiming a title as if you never played in the bowl game at all, same as the teams that you are so adamantly against. Now do you understand?

 

[PraetorianND]

Gotta run to have dinner. See ya!

 

[greyhammer90]

What about '73? Alabama won a NC that season. I understand that ND did also. The UPI trophy from that particular season is beautiful, and big. I don't know what it is but, that season's trophy was really, really overdone and fancy. It stands out as almost gaudy.

Alright I'm calling this race.

 

[CtrlAltDel]

1973 college football season - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1973 Sugar Bowl (National Title Game): ND 24 - Alabama 23

In its inaugural season, Division I had two NCAA-recognized national champions, and they faced each other at year's end in the Sugar Bowl. The New Orleans game matched two unbeaten teams, the Alabama Crimson Tide (11-0-0), ranked #1 by AP and UPI, and the Notre Dame Fighting Irish (10–0), ranked #3 by AP and #4 by UPI.

While both wire services ranked Alabama #1 at the end of the regular season, AP took another poll after the bowl games. By agreement with the American Football Coaches' Association, however, UPI bestowed its championship before the postseason bowl games. Thus, Alabama was crowned champion by UPI on December 4, 1973.[3] UPI ranked Notre Dame #4. One coach had given the Irish a first place vote, compared to 21 for Alabama.

In a game where the lead changed six times, Notre Dame won by a single point, 24–23, to claim the national championship. During the 20th Century, the NCAA had no playoff for the college football teams that would later be described as "Division I-A". The NCAA Football Guide, however, did note an "unofficial national champion" based on the top ranked teams in the "wire service" (AP and UPI) polls. The "writers' poll" by Associated Press (AP) was the most popular, followed by the "coaches' poll" by United Press International) (UPI). In 1973, the UPI issued its final poll before the bowls, but the AP Trophy was withheld until the postseason was completed. The AP poll in 1973 consisted of the votes of as many as 63 sportswriters and broadcasters, though not all of them voted in every poll. UPI's voting was made by 34 coaches. Those who cast votes would give their opinion of the ten best teams. Under a point system of 20 points for first place, 19 for second, etc., the "overall" ranking was determined.

Nice encapsulation, Grahambo; this is just what I have been saying. Alabama's '73 NC title is legit, just as ND's is. Thanks.

 

[woolybug25]

What about '73? Alabama won a NC that season. I understand that ND did also. The UPI trophy from that particular season is beautiful, and big. I don't know what it is but, that season's trophy was really, really overdone and fancy. It stands out as almost gaudy.

NO. We won it. We beat you. Bama had a loss, Notre Dame didn't. We beat you in a bowl game. Some crappy poll Retrospectively awarded it to you in some $hitty back-room handshake.

Give me an effing break.... how can you possibly share a title with a team that beat you and went undefeated?


The '73 title is Notre Dame's. We had six of the governing powers, including the most important (AP) vote us. All you have is a retrospective UPI title. Which has time and time again been shown as fraudelent.

Furthermore, I don't know how many times I have to say this... You have no problem claiming the most National Titles, but if we do exactly what you are claiming that we should do (claim any title given by any entity) then we would have 23. Which invalidates your original thought. It's completely irrational and stupid.

 

[NDPhilly]

Of course you do, Mr. Little i in Internet. Hey, let's be serious, it's not like you need a reason. Many Northerner's have provincial attitudes about citizens of the South. They really can't help themselves. They have been taught by their parents and their teachers that Southerners are all racists, we have no electricity, date our sisters, and live in trailers.

It's a type of attitude not born out of pure hatred but, out of ignorance. Many of you don't travel and know nothing of area's of the nation outside of your familiar environs.

You believe what you read in books, are told on television, and have been taught by your educators and parents.

Judgmental and regionally bigoted individuals, many of which happen to be what many Americans call Northerners or Midwesterners, remind me of someone like the Archie Bunker television character. Immensely bigoted and backwards but imagine themselves to be the very elite and more intelligent and culturally advanced than all others not identical to them.

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[CtrlAltDel]

Sorry if I was not clear enough for you. I'm not arguing that you should not have the title because it is unfair, for Notre Dame, to have a split title. And I'm not arguing that you should not have the title because it somehow relegates ND's title to a lower status. That isn't what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Alabama should not claim a title that year, period.

I also never said that "there should be only one." Again, a split title, whatever. I don't have much knowledge on that. But again, I am saying that Alabama should not have a title in '73. You cannot logically argue that teams from the 40s-70s should get more credit for playing in a bowl game, and lose, than those that didn't (like ND, in your words) and claimed a title. You argue the legitimacy of your '73 title when you played in the bowl game, lost, and claimed a pre-bowl title anyway. You are claiming a title as if you never played in the bowl game at all, same as the teams that you are so adamantly against. Now do you understand?

This word, claim, is being way overused. Alabama was awarded a NC in '73 and they accepted it, would be a better way of putting it.

Was ND a better team? Based on the bowl game, yes, they were. Does that mean that they were the only NC's that season? Not according to the UPI, they weren't.

I have seen that bowl game many times in re-runs, and Notre Dame was a fine football team who deserve their title in '73. It was an honor, in my opinion, for both teams to have a chance to play each other and was one of the, in my opinion again, best college football games to ever happen. Top 10, for sure.

 

[Grahambo]

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|____________ still thinks the Civil War isn't over.

The War of Northern Aggression

 

[ickythump1225]

NO. We won it. We beat you. Bama had a loss, Notre Dame didn't. We beat you in a bowl game. Some crappy poll Retrospectively awarded it to you in some $hitty back-room handshake.

Give me an effing break.... how can you possibly share a title with a team that beat you and went undefeated?


The '73 title is Notre Dame's. We had six of the governing powers, including the most important (AP) vote us. All you have is a retrospective UPI title. Which has time and time again been shown as fraudelent.

Furthermore, I don't know how many times I have to say this... You have no problem claiming the most National Titles, but if we do exactly what you are claiming that we should do (claim any title given by any entity) then we would have 23. Which invalidates your original thought. It's completely irrational and stupid.

How funny will it be if we beat them in the NCG and this guy comes back here and claims a NC anyway because Colin Cowherd still has them #1 in his top 10 list? That's a lot like what is going on here. Now I wasn't around in 1973 but from everything I've read Alabama has no legitimate claim to the NC that year.

 

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This word, claim, is being way overused. Alabama was awarded a NC in '73 and they accepted it, would be a better way of putting it.

Was ND a better team? Based on the bowl game, yes, they were. Does that mean that they were the only NC's that season? Not according to the UPI, they weren't.

I have seen that bowl game many times in re-runs, and Notre Dame was a fine football team who deserve their title in '73. It was an honor, in my opinion, for both teams to have a chance to play each other and was one of the, in my opinion again, best college football games to ever happen. Top 10, for sure.

So you claim that you won the national championship, but were the second best team in the country.















You are either a troll or the biggest f*cking moron I have ever had the misfortune to talk to.

EDIT: Oh excuse me. "Awarded" you unequivocal victimized douchebag you.