Coaching: BK and the NFL, Diaco and Head Coaching

[PraetorianND]

kelly wont go to the nfl. he wouldnt be able to the dictator there. he's not interested in being parcells of bilicheck. too many head cases in the nfl. way too much, what have you done for me lately. college definitely the niche.

why arent more people worried about martin jumping ship? i dont see this happening either. but, its funny how this isnt mentioned.
i think the next coach to leave is kerry cooks.

I agree. I am worried about Martin. I was pretty surprised when Charlie left last year (hope he turns around UMass), but I have a feeling ND will be a short stop for coordinators much like USC under Carroll in the future.

 

[mrmiller8]

I can't possibly see Kelly being a guy that goes to the NFL....He is a former politician and I think he really enjoys the job of coaching young kids. Pete Carrol left for the NFL because he knew **** was coming downhill at SC and didn't want to deal with it. Saban went and came back, Greg Schiano left because he was at Rutgers...Not to hit another one up but charlie left for the nfl and is now at Kansas, coaching college is an easier lifestyle and at the top programs you can make more money than a lot of NFL coaches so it wouldn't make sense. The cream of the college crop in coaching would already be in the NFL if they wanted...

 

[stlnd01]

Harbaugh's an interesting parallel. Both he and Kelly seem to be more about player development than any particular schematics (I know, Kelly's got his spread. But his ND record looks more like that of a pragmatist than a system guy). That's something you associate more with college than the NFL.
But Harbaugh had a lot more NFL ties. Played in the league for 15 years. His brother's a coach. Kelly's a college guy. Never played or coached in the NFL. Knows how to build college programs. Why mess with that?

 

[PLACforever]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!

 

[NDinTEXAS]

Texas had Will Muschamp as a head coach in waiting but at the time there was no sign in sight of mac retiring. I bet Texas is kicking there own asses for not keeping him around he is doin really great in Florida!!! I really think Notre Dame needs to hold on to Diaco and to them selves make it tentative to keep him at all cost to see were it might go.

 

[BobD]

I don't see Brian Kelly putting up with the type of sh!t coaches have to deal with from NFL players.

 

[clashmore_jon]

Bk said the other day that he builds his programs based on player development. And that his entire coaching philosophy is centered on that. Leads me to believe he's a college coach for life. Unless he gets bored after his tenth consecutive title

 

[In Lou I Trust]

If we win a MNC with him he's going to make more money than he could ever dream of spending and he'll be beloved for generations of Irish fans.

Worst. Acronym. Ever.

 

[JughedJones]

I had to look up what MNC stood for.

I agree it's pretty bad.

 

[enrico514]

Not sure BK's system and discipline would work in the NFL. I think he knows this and many would argue Head Football Coach at ND is as if not more prestigious.

It's not every football coach's dream to become a head coach. I have a feeling this staff's #1 goal is to bring a NC (if not more) to ND and it is probably obvious to them that they are on their way to achieving that goal. As long as they keep their salaries competitive, I do not see any of them moving anytime soon.

 

[Koreyirishkelly]

If I were Swarbrick I would give Diaco all the money in the world because I love Diaco and would not like to see him go. I would give him the "coach in waiting clause" in a couple of years after Kelly has won a couple of big time bowl games (National Championship) just in case. Diaco is a great coach and the players love him almost more than Kelly.

KELLY, WILL NEVER LEAVE FOR THE NFL!! When you come to Notre Dame, it is an NFL Head Coaching job times a million. You come to Notre Dame, you don't get to leave.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

If I were Swarbrick I would give Diaco all the money in the world because I love Diaco and would not like to see him go. I would give him the "coach in waiting clause" in a couple of years after Kelly has won a couple of big time bowl games (National Championship) just in case. Diaco is a great coach and the players love him almost more than Kelly.

KELLY, WILL NEVER LEAVE FOR THE NFL!! When you come to Notre Dame, it is an NFL Head Coaching job times a million. You come to Notre Dame, you don't get to leave.

i think in a live chat with eric hansen a few weeks ago he was asked about this scenario--which coach is leaving--his answer is that most people's opinions around campus is that diaco's dream job path is the nfl. alford couldve left last year for the packers and chose to stay. best shot at winning a ring right out of the gate--and still said no.

coach martin was asked to go to CMU with kelly. said no. took the HC job at gvsu where he won 2 more NC. was asked to go to cincy when BK went there. said no. stayed at GVSU and was in the NC conversation another 3 years. upon his hiring at ND, martin, a chicago guy, couldnt pass it up. martin isnt going anywhere for awhile. and if there is a "coach in waiting"--it might be him.

 

[phork]

Frankly I don't see Chip's value in the NFL. I don't see Brian leaving either. Diaco is a foregone conclusion that at some point he will go. But 1 year doesn't make a head coach.

 

[ickythump1225]

Worst. Acronym. Ever.

It's an old saying "mythical national champion." It doesn't really mean anything anymore.

 

[ndfi78]

Chip Kelly in the NFL... that makes me laugh. Chip Kelly's offense wouldn't make it out of training camp in the NFL. Ask Steve Spurrier how gimmicky offenses work in the NFL. Not even Nick Saban could make the jump. Very few coaches can do it, Jimmy Johnson's an exception.

As for BK I don't think he'd go the NFL. I mean ND for a long time was the most sought after job in coaching and as long as BK keeps us on the winning track it will be once again. If we win a MNC with him he's going to make more money than he could ever dream of spending and he'll be beloved for generations of Irish fans.

You do realize that Belichick had Chip Kelly come to the Patriots training camp this year so he could teach them his offense right?

 

[ickythump1225]

You do realize that Belichick had Chip Kelly come to the Patriots training camp this year so he could teach them his offense right?

New England is not running the spread offense and for good reason.

 

[JughedJones]

You do realize that Belichick had Chip Kelly come to the Patriots training camp this year so he could teach them his offense right?

He was not invited to camp to teach Belichick the offense.

Come on. How many of the four offensive plays that Kelly runs do you see the Patriots using this year?

He was invited so he could pick Chip's brain about his philosophy and tempo.

 

[phork]

And how are the Patriots doing this year....

 

[TDHeysus]

I dont see BK going anywhere anytime soon...and as far as Diaco, hopefully ND Administration has learned over the past 15 years how valuable a good coach is.

ND needs to back up the Brinks truck to Diaco's house and start unloading mounds of cash until he signs a long term contract....pay him near HC money if you have to. Do whatever needs to be done to retain his services.

consider all the coaching changes ND has gone thru, and how the defense at ND has never really been a 'thing' at ND. If ND administration has not learned how valuable a good coach is by now, then they will never get it and the last 15 years was truly wasted.

Godfather jokes aside, they need to make an offer to Diaco that he cant refuse, I cant stress this enough. Notre Dame has the power and resources to do it.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

No, there is an extremely small to almost zero possibility of BK leaving ND for the NFL.

There is also a very small chance of Diaco leaving ND for a HC job after this season from what I've heard... he's very likely to stick around for a couple more years and then move on to a higher tier opening than what he would get offered this season.

For reals. If anything, and dynamic 3-4 defensive coordinator is much more in demand in the NFL than a spread-offense type of head coach. The last real offensive guru hired in the NFL from college was Spurrier...

 

[irish1958]

For reals. If anything, and dynamic 3-4 defensive coordinator is much more in demand in the NFL than a spread-offense type of head coach. The last real offensive guru hired in the NFL from college was Spurrier...

And he flunked.

 

[In Lou I Trust]

It's an old saying "mythical national champion." It doesn't really mean anything anymore.

Exactly. I just feel like it's an outdated term to use. If we win a National Championship this year there would be nothing mythical about it.

 

[ickythump1225]

Exactly. I just feel like it's an outdated term to use. If we win a National Championship this year there would be nothing mythical about it.

Well if four teams remain undefeated and Alabama plays Oregon over KSU and Notre Dame I would feel the national title would be "mythic" this year. And I'm sure KSU fans and Oregon fans would agree depending on what teams got squeezed out.

But we're a long way from there and there's a lot of football to be played until them.

 

[ickythump1225]

I dont see BK going anywhere anytime soon...and as far as Diaco, hopefully ND Administration has learned over the past 15 years how valuable a good coach is.

ND needs to back up the Brinks truck to Diaco's house and start unloading mounds of cash until he signs a long term contract....pay him near HC money if you have to. Do whatever needs to be done to retain his services.

consider all the coaching changes ND has gone thru, and how the defense at ND has never really been a 'thing' at ND. If ND administration has not learned how valuable a good coach is by now, then they will never get it and the last 15 years was truly wasted.

Godfather jokes aside, they need to make an offer to Diaco that he cant refuse, I cant stress this enough. Notre Dame has the power and resources to do it.

Bingo. Pay the man all the money he wants and make him take a pay cut if he wants to fly the coop to a mid level program. It's crucial we keep him for at least another 3-4 years to keep stability within the program. We can't keep having turnover because that can create instability. Plus I love smothering, physical defenses and I don't want Diaco to leave and have us bring in some pansy defensive scheme.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

all should remember--and i am by no means ok with diaco leaving--but martin was BK's DC at GVSU. where they lost all of 7 games in close to 10 years.

all im saying is there is light at the end of that very dark coif less tunnel.

 

[kmoose]

I dont see BK going anywhere anytime soon...and as far as Diaco, hopefully ND Administration has learned over the past 15 years how valuable a good coach is.

ND needs to back up the Brinks truck to Diaco's house and start unloading mounds of cash until he signs a long term contract....pay him near HC money if you have to. Do whatever needs to be done to retain his services.

consider all the coaching changes ND has gone thru, and how the defense at ND has never really been a 'thing' at ND. If ND administration has not learned how valuable a good coach is by now, then they will never get it and the last 15 years was truly wasted.

Godfather jokes aside, they need to make an offer to Diaco that he cant refuse, I cant stress this enough. Notre Dame has the power and resources to do it.

This has been up for almost 7 hours and I am the first one to address it?

Seriously, "defense has never been a 'thing' at ND?" You do realize that "ever" at ND covers a sh!t-ton of ground, yes? Some of the greatest defenses in the history of College Football have come from South Bend.

The 1966 National Championship Team (9-0-1) recorded 6 shutouts in 10 games. They only gave up 38 points all season long. Only 2 of the 4 teams that scored on them, scored more than 7 points. Purdue scored 14 in the season opener, and Michigan State scored 10 in the famous 10-10 tie game. Northwestern scored 7, and Navy scored 7. That was truly a dominant defense.

 

[TDHeysus]

This has been up for almost 7 hours and I am the first one to address it?

Seriously, "defense has never been a 'thing' at ND?" You do realize that "ever" at ND covers a sh!t-ton of ground, yes? Some of the greatest defenses in the history of College Football have come from South Bend.

The 1966 National Championship Team (9-0-1) recorded 6 shutouts in 10 games. They only gave up 38 points all season long. Only 2 of the 4 teams that scored on them, scored more than 7 points. Purdue scored 14 in the season opener, and Michigan State scored 10 in the famous 10-10 tie game. Northwestern scored 7, and Navy scored 7. That was truly a dominant defense.

ok, let me clarify my thought...defense at ND hasnt been a 'thing' in my lifetime, im 39 years old, and a fan since 1985. the point of my post, which you completely didnt address, was that hopefully, ND administration has learned how important a valuable coach is, especially after that last 15 years.

 

[kmoose]

ok, let me clarify my thought...defense at ND hasnt been a 'thing' in my lifetime, im 39 years old. the point of my post, which you completely didnt address, was that hopefully, ND administration has learned how important a valuable coach is, especially after that last 15 years.

I'm with you on the hope that the administration has figured it out. And I didn't mean my post to come off as condescending or anything. I just read the original statement about defense, and thought, "Seriously!?!?!" Even in your lifetime, though...... the 88 NC team had an excellent defense, as well: Stams, Ale, Alm, Stonebreaker, Pritchett, Streeter, Terrell, Lyght...... those guys were damned good.

 

[irishroo]

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1436891

Doesn't really say much we don't already know. Players love him, want him back as DC, think he'd be a great head coach if and when the opportunity arises. Basically, that Diaco is an all around badass.

 

[ALLGATOR]

would Diaco take the BC job?