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This thread is for posting news and views on the ND wideouts for the '07-08 season.

Per UHND, Sporting News picks George West as one of their five "players who will be household names by the end of this season":

WR George West, So., Notre Dame. We didn’t see the full scope of Charlie Weis’ offense at Notre Dame the past two seasons because the Irish lacked deep speed. West isn’t the biggest guy (5-8, 188), but since when does height matter in college football? He has blazing speed (4.3 40) and if he becomes more consistent in his routes, he will thrive in Weis’ offense — no matter who is throwing the ball.

Pretty cool.
 

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I heard it mentioned on Power Hour that DJ Hord is actually looking really good, and completely back to normal, which is saying a lot given the injury that he underwent. With his size and potential that he had comming out of high school I wouldn't be suprised to see him step up and play a major role if he truely is completely back to normal. Then if you add in Grimes, and Kamara who by all accounts is realy looking like he's going to be a special player I think ND might turn out to be better at WR than most of us thought not so long ago. Then you always have to factor in that it's likely that either West, Parris, Jackson, or Gallup will step up and make at least a few plays too.
 
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In the practice on saturday d.j played really well along with west, grimes, parris, and the freshmen.

But hord is looking really good coming off of injury
 

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I heard it mentioned on Power Hour that DJ Hord is actually looking really good, and completely back to normal, which is saying a lot given the injury that he underwent. With his size and potential that he had comming out of high school I wouldn't be suprised to see him step up and play a major role if he truely is completely back to normal. Then if you add in Grimes, and Kamara who by all accounts is realy looking like he's going to be a special player I think ND might turn out to be better at WR than most of us thought not so long ago. Then you always have to factor in that it's likely that either West, Parris, Jackson, or Gallup will step up and make at least a few plays too.

REPS, I completely agree. Also, what was Hords injury, I've heard conflicting reports of abdominal surgery and Achilles tendon. If it is his tendon he hurt, I can understand why it is conceivable his blazing speed may never fully come back. But if he is back to normal, I expect big things from him this season.
 

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This thread is for posting news and views on the ND wideouts for the '07-08 season.

Per UHND, Sporting News picks George West as one of their five "players who will be household names by the end of this season":



Pretty cool.

well, last year my seats were amongst a "cult" of george west worshippers from keenan, so i guess you could say george, george west is already a household name for me. haha, fun times.

but it's really good to hear that hord is looking healthy again. i know achilles injuries are really difficult to come back from.
 
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maybe not this year, but by next year with all of the younger talent we have a wideout our passing threat should be up there with last year and two year ago's
 

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If CW is liking what he sees from our WR corps, then we should as well. I've read nothing but positive things about our entire WR corps this training camp. I don't know if we'll ever see the record numbers that we saw the last 2 years, but with the amount of depth we have, as long as we score points and win NC's, that's all that really matters. I'm overly excited to see what these young men can do in games this year. I've read soo much about how they've progressed from springtime, that I can't wait to see em'. I think we're going to be just fine, and for what it's worth, I think it was Todd Burlage over at BGI who said he didn't see how Kamara would be kept off of the field this year. Things sound very well for our WR's at this point.


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More Competition Matters

The race for receiving depth and minutes continues to be one of the best battles on the field. In the open practice Saturday, David Grimes and George West continued to be the top two receivers, and Robby Parris was No. 3. But guys such as D.J. Hord, Richard Jackson and freshmen Duval Kamara and Golden Tate continue to push the guys ahead of them.

“They’re all feeling the heat,” Weis said. “There’s people breathing down their neck. There’s a lot of heat out there in this competition. It’s like coming down to the finish line at the track, there’s a whole bunch of closers right here, trying to get to the end.”
 

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Catching up with the pass-catchers

Posted: August 14, 2007 02:28 PM

Tuesday is a "receivers day" for me. I talked to George West this morning for an upcoming story for our print edition and also jumped in for a few minutes with D.J. Hord and receivers coach Rob Ianello during the morning media session.

Hord, a junior who came to Notre Dame as a highly touted prospect, has had a rougher go of it with the Irish than he probably expected to have, due mostly to an Achilles injury that kept him out all last season. The last time I talked to him, in the spring, he seemed a little unsure of himself, a little discouraged about what he'd been through and the possiblity of never getting back to where he was physically pre-injury, but that's no longer the case. He's very upbeat now — he smiled almost the entire time I was around him — and optimistic about his chances to make an impact this season.

“I’m over it," Hord said about his injury. "I’m good to go now.”

Hord says he feels like he's competing for a starting spot — and that's exactly the attitude he should have — but at least at the start of the season, No. 3 seems more of an achieveable goal. David Grimes is unquestionably the No. 1 receiver and West is pretty solid at No. 2. Before Saturday's open practice, I would have said that Robby Parris was probably the odds-on favorite for the No. 3 spot, but Hord made the biggest impression on me Saturday, and if he's that consistent on the days we don't see the whole practice, I could see him pushing Parris.

Hord seemed to know he was "on" on Saturday, but he also realized the importance of playing that well every day.

“Camp is more than just one practice," he said. "You have to have consistent practices. Just because I had one good practice doesn’t mean I’m starting now, you know? I have to keep going.”

Ianello said that the receivers have taken the approach that it's about who IS here, not who's not. Jeff Samardzija and Rhema McKnight were great players for Notre Dame, but there's no reason why the players on the roster now can't be just as good. Hord said the receivers are using the skepticism on the outside of the program as motivation.

“We feel that a lot of people are doubting us right now," Hord said. "We’re playing right now like we have a chip on our shoulder, that we have something to prove, because right now everybody’s saying, ‘Well, Jeff, Ray and Mo are gone, so what’s left?’ So for us, we want to try to go out there and prove that there’s something still here.”

As far as Ianello is concerned, he's encouraged by the "leftovers" from the Samardzija-McKnight-Stovall era. Not only is there talent, there's competition, and that's going to help the group improve as a whole.

“It’s enough to be competitive, but if we all stay at the same plane, that’s not what we’re looking for," Ianello said. "We want the arrow to be going up every day, the arrow of improvement to be going up. I feel that we’re making strides in that area. Are we where we need to be to be able to play a game? No. We have a lot of work we need to continue to get done, absolutely. The guys see that, but they also see some real positive things going on, and that is what you want to have happen.

"You want to see some things that you’re doing as an offense, that you’re emphasizing to them, you want to see them now execute it on the field and it work. That gives them a chance to say, ‘Wow, OK, that’s good, let me try the next step, let me keep doing this.’ If you continue to build on that, then I think you have something with your group.”

Ianello, as you probably know, is also Notre Dame's recruiting coordinator and never escapes from a media huddle without fielding a few questions on that aspect of his job. He said the Internet is responsible for moving up the timetable for recruits to make decisions. It's not good or bad, just the way things work now. When he was going to college, he said, he didn't see the school he chose to attend until he showed up for orientation. Now, of course, most players visit at least a handful of schools before making their choice.

Notre Dame has been recruiting so well this season that the Irish don't have many scholarships left to give, but Ianello said he's not worried about missing out on players the coaches have targeted because those players haven't made a decision yet. If they're good enough, and if Notre Dame wants them, there will be a scholarship there for them.

“Philosophically speaking, Coach Weis is not offering a scholarship to anybody unless we want them to come," Ianello said. "We’re not one of those schools that blanket-offers a bunch of kids in the hopes that some come and some don’t. If we offer a guy a scholarship, we’re hoping they come, so we’ll circle the wagons on the guys we want to have come to school here that maybe haven’t made some decisions and see how we come out.”

I'm about to head over to practice now, so check back a little later this afternoon for today's 20 minutes.
 

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From B&G:

The most pleasant surprise to this point of fall camp has to be Duval Kamara. Most analysts believed that he could contribute this year as a fourth receiver and perhaps mostly in the red zone. However, he appears to have put himself in position to have a very big year as a regular receiver due in part to his physical readiness upon arrival.

Kamara looks like a beast after having added probably close to 15 pounds of pure muscle to his frame. That is only a start, obviously, because being in great shape does not indicate automatic success. What has put Kamara over the top is his ability to vacuum the football from all angles and his ability to catch the ball while being physically challenged by a defensive back.

It is still early and the looks that we have been given by Kamara equates to less than 10 percent of his total reps so far in camp, but the signs are extremely encouraging.

This mirrors a lot of what other folks have been saying - he definitely looks pretty big in the pic. Let's hope he's right.

kamara_duval_fall_225x350.jpg
 

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I do like the way our WR's have looked in practice so far. I look for them to perform better than most people have predicted, and Kamara probably has impressed me the most.
 

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August 22. 2007 6:59AM

D.J. ready to love the game
ND's Hord returns from serious injury to work his way into the picture at wide receiver.


ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND -- D.J. Hord can walk into the mall now without people pointing at him or whispering or asking him for his signature on anything but a credit card slip.

"It's kind of nice being a regular person," the Notre Dame junior wide receiver said. "But I hope that's about to change. I'd be willing to sacrifice that."

It's a small sacrifice given where he has been the past year.

Hord's ascendance toward a prominent place in ND's wide receiver rotation got detoured last summer, when the Achilles tendon on his left foot ruptured during a routine drill. He was on crutches that night, knowing the entire 2006 season was a wash. He had surgery the next day and began a slow climb to recovery that included learning how to walk all over again.

"I knew something was wrong as soon as it happened," Hord recalled. "The frustration didn't set in right away, because everything happened so fast. But then everything slowed down and reality hit.

"They had to reattach the tendon, and I had to be in a stabilizer and on crutches for months with my foot pointed down. When all that came off, I literally couldn't walk. It was like my left leg forgot how to do that. Every day, I'd get my Achilles rubbed and the scar tissue broken down. I wondered if I was ever going to feel the same again."

Hord was the jewel of ND coach Charlie Weis' hastily assembled first recruiting class. At 6-foot-1, 192 pounds, the Kansas City Rockhurst High standout didn't command five-star attention with his size, but his 10.39 time in the 100-meter dash made him an intriguing prospect. By loose comparison (under different conditions and a different track), former Irish standout Rocket Ismail won the Pennsylvania AA state title in the 100 with a time of 10.63.

"I'm not sure that my speed is all the way back," said Hord, who made four minutes' worth of cameos and returned seven kickoffs for the Irish in 2005 as a freshman. "But I think it's back enough for me to get the job done. I can always improve, but it's getting there. I feel like I can have a breakout year."

That didn't seem possible as recently as last spring practice. Not only couldn't Hord accelerate, he had trouble cutting and even catching the ball.

"I just didn't feel like myself," he said. "I was very hesitant. I wasn't confident. But I've got great parents, and they just kept explaining to me that it's a process and I couldn't just come back right away. They told me to be patient and keep working hard and I'd eventually be where I wanted to be."

And that Hord is, in the thick of the mix at wide receiver and pushing to get into the starting lineup. His smile has returned, even when his teammates tease him about what the initials D.J. stand for: Donald Juan.

"Oh, once they found out about it from the media guide, they started calling me that all the time," Hord said. "Don Juan, they get it. My grandpa named my dad that as kind of a joke thing, and now it's my name. You know what, it's cool, though.

"I guess if I'm not going to be a regular person for much longer, it's good to have a name like that to make you stand out."

Though junior David Grimes and sophomore George West headed into fall as the clear first and second options, the daily rabid competition at wide receiver has given ND its deepest rotation at the position at some time, with Hord, sophomore Robby Parris and freshmen Duval Kamara and Golden Tate all among those expected to push for playing time.

"Every day there's competition in practice, and that's what you want," Hord said. "You don't want anybody to get comfortable. You don't want anybody to relax. To have this kind of competition at one spot it going to push everybody to the next level. That's how we try to look at it, as the big picture of the team. Right now, that picture's coming into focus."
 

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I remember loving DJ's speed as a freshman. That he says (in the above article) that it isn't completely back has me a bit worried, though.
 

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Irish Receivers Looking to Surprise

Author: Frank Vitovitch

(UHND.com) – Ask anyone outside of the Notre Dame program what the biggest weakness on the 2007 Fighting Irish is and wide receiver will one of the most common responses. Ask the Notre Dame coaches and players about the supposed weakness at the receiver position, and they’ll paint a much different picture.

All throughout training camp head coach Charlie Weis has continually stressed that he likes the wide receiver position a lot this year. After the only fully open practice of the year back on August 11, Weis addressed the wide receiver position stating, “I’ve been saying all along, everyone’s saying this is a weakness. I really like the wide receiver position. I really like them.”

Despite Weis’s claims that he really likes his wide receivers, you can’t blame anyone from expecting this position to be a weakness compared to past seasons under Weis. Any time you try to replace 145 receptions, 1924 yards, and 27 touchdowns from 2006 with a cast a receivers who totaled just 29 receptions, 357 yards, and two touchdowns a year ago as the Irish this year, it’s only natural to assume that there will a sharp drop-off.

Unlike a year ago when only three receivers saw the bulk of the action, 2007 could see the Irish expand their receiving corps into more multiple wide receiver sets because of the young talent on the roster. Last week Rob Ianello was non-committal about how many receivers he thought the Irish would play this year, “That’s a question that’s yet to be answered,”, but Notre Dame’s wide receiver coach did say the coaches are looking to play as many receivers as they feel comfortable with.

“We’re going to draw the line wherever the plays dictate the line will be draw. Wherever the plays dictate the line will be drawn, we’ll go ‘OK, we have this number of players we feel comfortable playing in the game, now let’s go figure out what we’re going to do with them,” Ianello told the media.

Just where that line is drawn by the players remains to be seen, but if the competition in camp is any indication, that line could be farther down the depth chart than it was a year ago. “Because it’s been so competitive, it gives other guys a chance to see that maybe they can get on the field,” Ianello stated on Tuesday.

The competition which Ianello has spoken to so many times this summer is the reason the Irish are building their depth at the position. Notre Dame does not have the luxury of returning guys with a lot of game experience this year so they will have to build depth out on Cartier Field and inside the Loftus Center. The good news for Notre Dame is that despite that lack of experience, there is more competition amongst the wide receivers this year according to Ianello, “I think we have much more competition in the whole group, from top to bottom.”

The maturation of youngsters like George West and DJ Hord are part of the reason for the upgrade in competition this year. Last year West had the benefit of enrolling early, but was still learning his way around this offense. This year West has the basics down and has progressed into working on the finer intricacies of the position. Last week he stated, “It’s time for me to look at those little things and try to learn from them.”

A year ago DJ Hord was just beginning to recover from an achille’s injury which cost him the entire 2006 season. This summer Hord has been turning some heads on the practice field and should be primed for a breakout season. Hord’s has remained humble, however, despite his rise up the depth chart this summer. ““Personally, with me, whatever helps the team win I’m game for. If that means me to get less PT (playing time), then I’ll just have to deal with it and suck it up.”

Throw into the mix sophomore Robby Parris and Barry Gallup and freshmen Duval Kamara and Golden Tate and it’s easy to see why Ianello and Weis are showing signs of confidence in their young receivers.

“You build your depth from the bottom up and I believe we’re improving in that area no question,” Ianello repeated on Tuesday. Building depth from the bottom up has been a recurring them in Ianello’s interviews this summer. He explained his rationale behind this last week stating, “If whoever is at the bottom of our depth when this thing is decided, if they’ve improved, if they’ve grown, it makes the whole group stronger and that’s what we’re looking for.”

The receivers have bought into the concept of competition amongst themselves as well. West stated last week that, “Competition makes it us better and it tells us that every day we go out there and practice and we have to bring it because that’s a practice lost or a practice won.”

These young receivers still have a lot to prove before people stop labeling them as a weakness, but if the competition in camp this summer is any indication, these receivers could end up proving a lot of people wrong before the 2007 season is over.
 
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