Well it's there.....

[PADOMERNUT]

BC doesn't have 1 win that would be considered a win over a quality opponent. I'm not saying we can't win, I'm saying I don't think we will win. This doesn't mean I will quit watching my team. It doesn't mean that they should just throw in the towel. It simply means I, personally, (just my opinion) don't think we will win. And let me just say, it completely sucks ass that I feel this way. I don't like it, but it's my reality.

No, thats not what you said. You said we wont win. You didnt say you dont think we will win. Flat out you said we wont be 9-3. My point is people, like myself, overreact when posters who claim to be fans say something will or wont happen with such certainty, when you really have no clue. I have no clue. Thats why it is a game and we are fans. State your OPINION, but dont try to represent it as fact before the game even takes place.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Charlie isnt getting fired until season's end. But even if we win out and make the Gator bowl...that is will below expectations with the talent and schedule we have. He's gone, regardless what happens.

It is a very real possibility they fire him before season's end. With the way the recruiting cycle is now, if they wait to fire him until December, you have zero time left to recruit for a new head coach. If they have a big name (and I assume they will only fire him IF they have a BIG name), it would make sense to put that out as soon as possible so any recruits you have left on the board can make their decisions based on the new coach.

With that being said, I hope they don't fire him at all. Now or at the end of the season. Furthermore, I really don't think the last three games make much of a difference either way. I really believe the die has already been cast and the decision has been made about his fate. I can't see any level of performance at Pitt, against UConn (**cough**), or at Stanford doing much to undo what has already taken place, good or bad. If they go out and just stomp the living snot out of those three teams, I can't see the administration or alumni saying anything but, "Why couldn't you have done that against Michigan, Navy, or SC and why didn't you win by a bigger margin against MSU, Purdue, BC, and Washington?" Conversely, if they have poor outings in the last three games, it would just further solidify what is already known now.

I have to think there are already closed door conversations and back room dealings going on right now. The University is smart. They are not going to even entertain the idea of firing Coach Weis without at least testing the waters with their "wish list" candidates. The Urban Meyer fiasco burnt them and it won't happen again. I don't think anything will happen without the marquee name. Is Gruden enough of a marquee name? Is Kelly? I don't know for sure. In my opinion, no. Now Stoops - that is interesting.

I have always liked Coach Weis and I still do. I think he is a good representative of the University. Bottom line, I don't really care who coaches. They don't ask for my advice in those situations. You could stick anyone on the sideline with a headset and I will still watch my beloved Irish every Saturday. I love the Irish and I will still get giddy with excitement each and every Friday. I will still get goosebumps when I see them hit the sign on the way down the stairs and I will still get awe struck when I see those gold helmets come out on to the field. I love this football team no matter what. If it's with Weis or not, I will still be here and I will still love this team until the day I die.

Go mbeannai Dia duit!

 

[IHateMarkMay]

r u kidding me?
we have no shot at pittsburgh...and then we have very tough games against uconn and stanford.
we're going to be lucky to be 7-5.bye bye charlie.thanks for the internship.

I think it's hilarious when people consider coaches interns. If you think about it, every coach who goes to a school and then leaves the school (not retire from), is an intern.

 

[JefMaj]

Well, if it was Gruden - we only need him for 2 years - he won his ring in Tampa with Dungey's guys - we got guys.

 

[Irish4Life09]

I think it's hilarious when people consider coaches interns. If you think about it, every coach who goes to a school and then leaves the school (not retire from), is an intern.

im sorry,just doing a little play-on with the billboard we had during the beginning of the season.
really,id like to apologize if i offend anyone.i dont mean to by any means.
but even the most diehard charlie lovers have to realize how far we have sunk.and im not even saying that it is all charlie's fault.he fell into a "bad" situation that willingham and davies left us in.
we've been in turmoil for 21 years.it sucks.i was barely alive the last time we won a title,and i wasnt even knowledgeable about football,let alone notre dame to understand it and relish in it.
but regardless of what willingham and davies did, weis has not helped us.
he got us to 2 bcs games.so what? we were HUMILIATED in both of them.and since then, we've had a 3-9 and 6-6 season(not counting the bowl win.)
we're 3-16 in our last 19 games over the last 3 seasons against teams with a .500 record or better.
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ANY LEVEL!NOT ON FCS,NOT ON SUN BELT LEVEL,LET ALONE OUR ILLUSTRIOUS LEVELS OF ACHIEVEMENT.

I like Weis. He seems to be a nice guy,and seems to be smart.But not as a head coach, and not as OUR coach. He cannot accept his faults,and make change,which is a huge part of coaching. He's arrogant when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant it.And this isn't mentioning the fact that he cant win.He cant win.Plain and simple.

I just want to say to the people that like Weis as our head coach, can you really accept and think it is ok to beat Purdue,Michigan,Mich. St.,Boston College,and the other weak teams we play only half the time? My god, we get annhilated by USC every year, and we've lost to Navy twice in 3 years, when we had won 43 straight against them.
All I can say is this is not acceptable on any level, and we need a new change of the guard.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I'm sure that no decision has been made.

 

[Bubba]

No, thats not what you said. You said we wont win. You didnt say you dont think we will win. Flat out you said we wont be 9-3. My point is people, like myself, overreact when posters who claim to be fans say something will or wont happen with such certainty, when you really have no clue. I have no clue. Thats why it is a game and we are fans. State your OPINION, but dont try to represent it as fact before the game even takes place.

ANY prediction made is an opinion. While they may be based on reliable information, predictions cannot be factual statements. If they could, we would all do well at sports betting and the lottery. I didn't try to represent anything as fact.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

im sorry,just doing a little play-on with the billboard we had during the beginning of the season.
really,id like to apologize if i offend anyone.i dont mean to by any means.
but even the most diehard charlie lovers have to realize how far we have sunk.and im not even saying that it is all charlie's fault.he fell into a "bad" situation that willingham and davies left us in.
we've been in turmoil for 21 years.it sucks.i was barely alive the last time we won a title,and i wasnt even knowledgeable about football,let alone notre dame to understand it and relish in it.
but regardless of what willingham and davies did, weis has not helped us.
he got us to 2 bcs games.so what? we were HUMILIATED in both of them.and since then, we've had a 3-9 and 6-6 season(not counting the bowl win.)
we're 3-16 in our last 19 games over the last 3 seasons against teams with a .500 record or better.
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ANY LEVEL!NOT ON FCS,NOT ON SUN BELT LEVEL,LET ALONE OUR ILLUSTRIOUS LEVELS OF ACHIEVEMENT.

I like Weis. He seems to be a nice guy,and seems to be smart.But not as a head coach, and not as OUR coach. He cannot accept his faults,and make change,which is a huge part of coaching. He's arrogant when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant it.And this isn't mentioning the fact that he cant win.He cant win.Plain and simple.

I just want to say to the people that like Weis as our head coach, can you really accept and think it is ok to beat Purdue,Michigan,Mich. St.,Boston College,and the other weak teams we play only half the time? My god, we get annhilated by USC every year, and we've lost to Navy twice in 3 years, when we had won 43 straight against them.
All I can say is this is not acceptable on any level, and we need a new change of the guard.

Oh i wasn't calling you out, the billboard actually. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

 

[phork]

Charlie isn't going anywhere after we win the next 3 games and the bowl game

Don't see it happening.

BC is at least as good a team as Stanford, and maybe not as far behind Pitt as people might think. We beat BC, so why would you think that we couldn't beat Pitt and Stanford?

Stanford is light years ahead of BC and Pitt appears to have a pretty good defense. Stanfords Offense is going to destroy our D. I'm even worried about Uconn now.

 

[WabashFalcon]

And souces say I have a 32 inch cock. Doesn't mean it is true.

 

[WabashFalcon]

Yeah.. the mighty Stanford that was able to beat the great Deamon Deacons of Wake Forrest in addition to the Wildcats of Arizona. One win, and suddenly EVERYONE is sucking the Cardinal schlong.


Oh.... WAITAMINUTETHEYDIDN'TBEATTHOSETEAMSDIDTHEY?

 

[tko]

And souces say I have a 32 inch cock. Doesn't mean it is true.

plenty big for multiple rudder participants

 

[phork]

Yeah.. the mighty Stanford that was able to beat the great Deamon Deacons of Wake Forrest in addition to the Wildcats of Arizona. One win, and suddenly EVERYONE is sucking the Cardinal schlong.


Oh.... WAITAMINUTETHEYDIDN'TBEATTHOSETEAMSDIDTHEY?

Yah but they did beat USC, which something ND hasn't in a long long time. Don't be surprised if they do it again this year.

 

[mick2]

we arent a terrible team guys, we are a pretty good team that can put up pretty good numbers our defense leaves some to be desired, but we've been in every game until the end.

 

[irishfan]

Yah but they did beat USC, which something ND hasn't in a long long time. Don't be surprised if they do it again this year.

Well they also haven't beaten us since 2001....I know they've improved every year since Harbaugh has been there, but we've improved right along with them.

 

[Skuch22]

that article is so fake

 

[phork]

we arent a terrible team guys, we are a pretty good team that can put up pretty good numbers our defense leaves some to be desired, but we've been in every game until the end.

ND is an average team, at best. Throw your 9/10 offense in with your 2/10 defense and your average is about 5.5/10. The fact that the defense is an anchor means that as a whole the unit is average at best.

 

[WabashFalcon]

What do people want? Yeah, I understand a national championship isn't good enough. You don't see Bob Stoops getting his head called for right now when Oklahoma was the #2 team in the nation and is now out of the Top 25. Interesting.

What do we want? Hit reset and start all over? Nothing good will come of that. More waiting. And waiting. And waiting. Stick with the pony we got, don't change it midstream.

 

[Master Guns]

I agree, lets just fire Charlie and cancel the season.....I would bet a lot of money we will win 9 games and Charlie will be back to make a run at a title....Call me whatever you want, but I believe this.

Agree. As I have said all along, CW will be back for JC and crew's senior year. I also believe that a NC title run will be happening next year. If they were to tank next season, CW is gone. Plus can you imagine starting over, losing alot of guys on the team and guys coming in. These guys play for CW. Everybody needs to relax. I thought Navy would be the sleeper upset.

 

[Junkhead]

What do we want? Hit reset and start all over? Nothing good will come of that. More waiting. And waiting. And waiting. Stick with the pony we got, don't change it midstream.

At some point, you just have to realize the coaches don't have it. Some of us have hit that point, others will next year.

 

[phork]

What do people want? Yeah, I understand a national championship isn't good enough. You don't see Bob Stoops getting his head called for right now when Oklahoma was the #2 team in the nation and is now out of the Top 25. Interesting.

What do we want? Hit reset and start all over? Nothing good will come of that. More waiting. And waiting. And waiting. Stick with the pony we got, don't change it midstream.

You are seriously going to go there? Aside from the obvious, losing a starting Heisman trophy winning QB, here is a comparison:

Charlie Weis is 35-25 (7-5 average W/L) in 5 years at ND. Biggest wins include stopping of several streaks to such elite teams as BC, MSU. Starting a current 2 game home losing streak to Navy. 3-16 against ranked teams since 2007. And ending a bowl losing streak to vaunted Hawaii. Blown out repeatedly by big time programs, USC and Michigan.

Bob Stoops is 114-28 in ten years (11-2 W/L). Rebuilt OU to pull down a NC and has been competitive in a tough Big12. Been in several NC games, losing 2. Has only lost 2 times at home. 6 Big12 Championships.

Weis couldn't even dream of sniffing Stoops jockstrap. When you have Stoops track record, then you get a little leeway when the feces hits the fan. When you have done nothing and shown you aren't headed anywhere but the Hawaii bowl, well you should be shown the door.

 

[jason_h537]

This thread is BS. How can an administration seriously decide to fire a coach at this point in the season. How stupid will it look if they win out. They are smart to begin looking for a replacemnet just in case, but to claim he is already fired is pure speculation.

Thats really smart to fire a coach midseason and throw awya the recruiting class before finding a replacement.

 

[phork]

I don't think he'll be fired until after the season, but I get the phone lines are starting to heat up.

 

[Irish4Life09]

And souces say I have a 32 inch cock. Doesn't mean it is true.

hows ur mom doing btw? lol

 

[Flyin_Irish]

And yahoo's college football page has an article about how Brian Kelly should be the guy. Really? Let's revisit this in a couple months. Tell me how attractive Brian Kelly is when UC loses to WVU and/or Pitt and gets blown out in a bowl game.

We got beat on Saturday in a game we should have won by 3 touchdowns, and could have won by 3 touchdowns had we made the plays. I hate the fact that Charlie doesn't take a little more ownership in his comments, but at the same time, he's right. He didn't fumble the ball, he didn't miss the FGs, he didn't run the wrong route and he didn't throw an INT. He and the rest of the coaching staff had the team in a position to win this game and that's all you can ask for. The players have to do the rest. You know we're not having this conversation if the score Saturday was 38-21 Irish.

Having said all that, if we win out and win the Gator Bowl or Cotton Bowl or whatever bowl, we all know Charlie will be back, and frankly, would deserve to come back. However, with 1 or more losses I won't shed a tear for him if he's replaced. I'd prefer Gruden over Kelly if that's what it comes to.

 

[Catsudon]

wow... it's like i read the same thing already...here on IE... hey, i bet i know who the inside source is... some guy who read it off IE. that's how reliable that article is.

 

[WaveDomer]

And souces say I have a 32 inch cock. Doesn't mean it is true.

Can it tackle?

 

[PUREBREEDIRISH]

We don't need Gruden, hasn't he already been fired from somewhere? I don't want Charlie to go myself!!! If someone needs to go it's the Defensive ppl. If we had a defense, we would all being saying Charlie Weis is our saviour again!!! We would be 8-0....

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Can it tackle?

In'N'Out sources say his cock can do it. With fries.

 

[tankjeep]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Ah_4Q540UVru8NO0q7RiXTU5nYcB?slug=dw-kelly110909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Just like anywhere though, Notre Dame needs a total package to contend for BCS titles. It’s no different at Florida, Alabama, Texas and so on.

And so back down in Cincinnati, this time at the University of, resides its best choice – Bearcats coach Brian Kelly.

don't know if anybody posted this...if so, my bad.