Trump Presidency Round 2

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GATTACA! said:

It's too bad we aren't allowed to call him a fascist, because this feel pretty fascisty.
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I rate Trump as the worst president of all time, but if anybody calls him a fascisty fascist, I can only assume they dropped out of school after the 3rd grade.
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
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Just doesn't pass the smell test for me and I suspect he would be stepping down right now if this had any water to it.

Why wouldn't the deeply political and weaponized Biden DOJ have that video released to the public Nov 1, 2024 if they had a smoking gun? He wasn't a public official at the time, so I am curious how they are applying bribery laws or were. Also what makes it weird is that the story was leaked to a known Russiagate hoaxer and liar Fusion Ken. If you are sitting on gold, you don't run it to a garbage journo like Fusion Ken. FBI wouldn't have buried something this high profile. I'm all for auditing DHS and verifying anti-corruption controls are in place under every administration. This just doesn't smell like a scandal to me.
 
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drayer54 said:
Just doesn't pass the smell test for me and I suspect he would be stepping down right now if this had any water to it.

Why wouldn't the deeply political and weaponized Biden DOJ have that video released to the public Nov 1, 2024 if they had a smoking gun? He wasn't a public official at the time, so I am curious how they are applying bribery laws or were. Also what makes it weird is that the story was leaked to a known Russiagate hoaxer and liar Fusion Ken. If you are sitting on gold, you don't run it to a garbage journo like Fusion Ken. FBI wouldn't have buried something this high profile. I'm all for auditing DHS and verifying anti-corruption controls are in place under every administration. This just doesn't smell like a scandal to me.
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Would you believe anything that reflected negatively on this administration?
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
Would you believe anything that reflected negatively on this administration?
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I'd likely believe anything from a valid source that didn't smell fishy or sound like yet another phony hit attempt. However, as Drayer pointed out, this has false accusation written all over it due to the reasons he stated. The problem is that the left spun so many false narratives about Russiagate, the Steele Dossier, phony rape allegations, and so on, that all we hear now is "Wolf!" They destroyed their credibility with too many blatantly false charges and accusations. Nobody takes any of their accusations seriously now. They brought this on themselves.
 
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I'd likely believe anything from a valid source that didn't smell fishy or sound like yet another phony hit attempt. However, as Drayer pointed out, this has false accusation written all over it due to the reasons he stated. The problem is that the left spun so many false narratives about Russiagate, the Steele Dossier, phony rape allegations, and so on, that all we hear now is "Wolf!" They destroyed their credibility with too many blatantly false charges and accusations. Nobody takes any of their accusations seriously now. They brought this on themselves.
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Trump did rape, Russia wasn't a hoax and was proven that the attempted to meddle, Trump just wasn't aware of it. Steele dossier is the one I will agree with you on.
 
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Probe started in August 2024. He was peddling influence before assuming the position and stated he'd keep the money in a trust until after he departed. Smells wrong, but would like to know when the actual recording took place. I frigging hate government corruption. It is not hard to do right. Which means I hate all government. :ROFLMAO:

Several stretches there Colorado
 
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Fbolt said:
Probe started in August 2024. He was peddling influence before assuming the position and stated he'd keep the money in a trust until after he departed. Smells wrong, but would like to know when the actual recording took place. I frigging hate government corruption. It is not hard to do right. Which means I hate all government. :ROFLMAO:

Several stretches there Colorado
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What stretches? Genuinely curious, I haven't seen anything that disproves Russia meddling. Secretary of State Rubio was part of the team that lead the investigation.
 
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The Carroll trial was a circus show trial. IMO, it's like saying Trump was impeached. Both are BS and politically motivated.
Russiagate was a hoax, which is not the same as Russia not meddling.
 
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Fbolt said:
The Carroll trial was a circus show trial. IMO, it's like saying Trump was impeached. Both are BS and politically motivated.
Russiagate was a hoax, which is not the same as Russia not meddling.
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I firmly believe Trump raped other women not just her. Understand what you mean by Russiagate now. Too often I feel it's thrown around to say nothing nefarious happened, when something very clearly did
 
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Stating "when something very clearly did" is an overstatement. Russia has been meddling in elections forever. There was nothing special about their meddling in recent cycles.
 
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Stating "when something very clearly did" is an overstatement. Russia has been meddling in elections forever. There was nothing special about their meddling in recent cycles.
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I think that's where we will agree to disagree.
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
Trump did rape, Russia wasn't a hoax and was proven that the attempted to meddle, Trump just wasn't aware of it. Steele dossier is the one I will agree with you on.
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What stretches? Genuinely curious, I haven't seen anything that disproves Russia meddling. Secretary of State Rubio was part of the team that lead the investigation.
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You're missing my point. Whether Russia meddled or not (they probably did and have been doing so in every election for decades) isn't the issue. The issue is how the press presented it, and their trustability. They portrayed it as Trump asking them to meddle. They portrayed the Steele Dossier as 100% legit. They pushed the "Trump raped" narrative when it's highly unlikely he did, and they did it knowing that but not caring, just to help one side. They pushed the whole "Biden is sharp as a tack" story, knowing full well he was far from it. They straight up lied to the American public about the existence of Hunter's laptop. They edited multiple interviews to present Kamala as less nitwitted and vacuous than she really was. They pushed the narrative about the Catholic HS kid being the aggressor against the Native guy. These are the same people who fed the questions to Hillary before a debate. And on and on and on it goes.

They consistently lie to the public, push an agenda, no matter how dishonestly, go out of their way to smear one side and then play "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" about the other. They're as trustworthy as a crack ho needing a dollar. We don't trust them because they've consistently been caught lying to us. The American public has lost faith in the press, and for good reason. They've brought this on themselves. Have you seen the polls about trust in and respect for journalism? They're brutal.
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
Would you believe anything that reflected negatively on this administration?
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I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems to me something like this would have been reported earlier and by multiple sources.
 
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The right is skeptical about anything the press reports, hence "our" cautious approach. All based on their history of deceit and misrepresentation to obtain their desired outcome.
 
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I don't trust the media at all. It just comes across a lot of times to me as being completely tribal.I believe we should all be skeptical of what's reported and do our own research.
 
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Trump is kinda gay in the way all New Yorkers his age are. Growing up that close in a golden age of theater and musicals will make you little limp wristed.
 
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AP, WSJ, and NYT all passing back on this bullshit claim.

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irishff1014 said:
Yes this wasn’t the place to play politics. And the comment I hate my opponents was un called for. This was a time for remembrance, support and love. Do better big Don.
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While I agree completely - I honestly think Kirk would have wanted that as fucked up as that is lol
 
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