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100k Americans are killed from drug overdoses, the majority of which is from Fentanyl which is made in Mexico by the Cartels and brought into our country. Mexico has completely failed to address this and we can and should use force to deal with it.
 
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Also completely refreshing to see a President that actually engages with the media. It's been 24 hours and Trump has already taken more questions than Joe did in the past year plus lol. No handlers needed
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
100k Americans are killed from drug overdoses, the majority of which is from Fentanyl which is made in Mexico by the Cartels and brought into our country. Mexico has completely failed to address this and we can and should use force to deal with it.
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I agree with this, but holy if Biden did something similar there would be outrage from MAGA
 
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I mean maybe, but I think that’s more a comment on the tribalism of our body politic than it is on the merits of this idea. I mean Democrats went on for months about how Trump should absolutely not pardon his family preemptively and are A-ok with it when Biden just did it. I think this would be the exact type of low intensity conflict with the cartels that SOCOM is explicitly designed to conduct.
 
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calvegas04 said:
I agree with this, but holy if Biden did something similar there would be outrage from MAGA
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I would have been thrilled if Biden had taken them on. The drugs, the murders, beheadings, the assassinations, the human trafficking. Create a buffer zone while you're at it. Northern Mexico is mostly empty anyway.

Everybody should be thrilled by this.
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
100k Americans are killed from drug overdoses, the majority of which is from Fentanyl which is made in Mexico by the Cartels and brought into our country. Mexico has completely failed to address this and we can and should use force to deal with it.
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If a country can't deal with its problems and it's affecting their neighbors, then the neighbors will deal with it for them. Mexico has allowed itself to become like Lebanon.
 
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I’m fine going after the cartels. We need to put a serious dent in the drug trade.
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Would be nice, but they will just pop up again under new a new leader. Could put a temporary dent to their operations tho.

Wouldn't want any service members names to get put out their as the cartels have a lot of members inside the US and would worry for their families
 
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Would be nice, but they will just pop up again under new a new leader. Could put a temporary dent to their operations tho.

Wouldn't want any service members names to get put out their as the cartels have a lot of members inside the US and would worry for their families
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Definitely need to protect. That’s why the police in Mexico wear masks and no name tags.

The company I used to work for has a customer right over the border from El Paso. The employee that serviced that customer almost had his son kidnapped because they thought he was rich. The employee got a call informing him of the attempt. He looks outside to see a strange car with several guys waiting. He calls his son just as he’s coming down the street and tells him to keep driving and go to a hotel. The next day he moved the rest of the family to the hotel for a couple of weeks.

He’s shared some pics of a shoot out between the cartel and police. Gruesome stuff.
 
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Definitely need to protect. That’s why the police in Mexico wear masks and no name tags.

The company I used to work for has a customer right over the border from El Paso. The employee that serviced that customer almost had his son kidnapped because they thought he was rich. The employee got a call informing him of the attempt. He looks outside to see a strange car with several guys waiting. He calls his son just as he’s coming down the street and tells him to keep driving and go to a hotel. The next day he moved the rest of the family to the hotel for a couple of weeks.

He’s shared some pics of a shoot out between the cartel and police. Gruesome stuff.
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Can't we just have some drones periodically dump bombs on their production and drive down supply, prices up, and make the stuff less obtainable?
 
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Irish#1 said:
Sounds like a bad idea. Would like to know the reasoning.
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Well, if you use that left-wing framing- it does sound terrible. If you look at reality, you realize he just shared some clickbait outrage Harry Sisson type stuff.
 
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Billionaires looking out for the middle and lower class.......
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Can you quantify how much damage this did to the middle class? Which drugs went up here? Or was this a repeal of a symbolic and not even enacted EO from Biden that will have no impact on the lower class? Please discuss your research.
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
100k Americans are killed from drug overdoses, the majority of which is from Fentanyl which is made in Mexico by the Cartels and brought into our country. Mexico has completely failed to address this and we can and should use force to deal with it.
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War on Drugs is back! Cool!

All this big talk about “going after the cartels” is silly if one isn’t going to get serious about white collar and financial crimes.

Maybe Trump will send his recently freed mob to storm Culiacan?
 
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Can you quantify how much damage this did to the middle class? Which drugs went up here? Or was this a repeal of a symbolic and not even enacted EO from Biden that will have no impact on the lower class? Please discuss your research.
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He signed the order yesterday. How the fuck would we know what drugs will go up yet? Lol
 
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Bluto said:
War on Drugs is back! Cool!

All this big talk about “going after the cartels” is silly if one isn’t going to get serious about white collar and financial crimes.

Maybe Trump will send his recently freed mob to storm Culiacan?
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White collar and financial crimes aren’t welcomed but I would think you wouldn’t make fun of going after a crime that effects all classes, but more importantly lower class citizens that struggle just to get by let alone have to deal with addiction.
 
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Bluto said:
Infrastructure week is back?

My bold prediction is that AI and or Crypto are gonna be the speculative bubbles that blow up the economy.
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I can’t speak on Crypto but AI isn’t speculative. It’s here to stay.
 
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Irish#1 said:
White collar and financial crimes aren’t welcomed but I would think you wouldn’t make fun of going after a crime that effects all classes, but more importantly lower class citizens that struggle just to get by let alone have to deal with addiction.
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Bidens family and Peltier just yesterday received full pardons.
 
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Irish#1 said:
White collar and financial crimes aren’t welcomed but I would think you wouldn’t make fun of going after a crime that effects all classes, but more importantly lower class citizens that struggle just to get by let alone have to deal with addiction.
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I mean the first war on drugs was a disaster for lower class citizens of every country involved. I’m also failing to see how bombing Mexico or whatever would help lower class citizens.

The cartels are not dumb hillbillies with AK -47’s. Sending a military force into Mexico without proper intelligence ie the cooperation of Mexican authorities could prove to be a disaster. The problem with that is the insane levels of corruption inherent in the Mexican government at all levels. If one wants to tackle the cartels I would argue going after their financial assets is the cheapest, safest and easiest approach.

What might actually help here in the US? Universal Healthcare including mental health services.
 
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Irish#1 said:
I can’t speak on Crypto but AI isn’t speculative. It’s here to stay.
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Based on a couple tech podcasts I follow AI companies are presently burning through tens of billions to earn back millions and they have hit a plateau in terms of the language learning models.

“For context, OpenAI spends $7 billion on training its AI models and an additional $1.5 billion on staffing while generating $3.5 billion in revenue.”

www.windowscentral.com

A leaked document suggests OpenAI will hit AGI when it builds an AI system that can generate up to $100 billion in profit — but the ChatGPT maker could endure a massive $44 billion loss before seeing profit in 2029 partly due to Microsoft tie-up

OpenAI will hit AGI when it develops an AI system generating $100 billion in profit.
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Seems like a bad business model.

We shall se.
 
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