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I think that the pollsters have their work cut out for themselves tomorrow with all of the shake-up games that happened today.
1. everyone has had a hard-on for Oklahoma all year, but can you keep them in the top 25 at 3-3?
2. how far do you drop Va Tech and Ohio State?
3. likewise Nebraska and Kansas?
4. do you really put Boise in the top 5 for beating Tulsa?
5. how high can you really put Cinncinati
6. do you let Cal and scUM back in, and where?
7. what do you do with West Virginia (5-1), Boston College (5-2), Pitt (6-1), Navy (5-2), Idaho (6-1), Texas Tech (5-2), and if you are just looking at records, Central Michigan (6-1)?
and 8. can you let ND stay in after today's loss?
 

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I think it's quite funny:

If we get those last 4 yards and end up beating USC, we're a top 10-15 team in tomorrow's polls. But since we couldn't get those last 4 yards, we don't belong in the top 25.

How does that make any sense?
 

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Because ND lost, thats why. You guys are all delusional to think that ND is a top10-15 team if you beat USC. Regardless the point is moot, and ND is now #30 in the coaches poll.
 

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Because ND lost, thats why. You guys are all delusional to think that ND is a top10-15 team if you beat USC. Regardless the point is moot, and ND is now #30 in the coaches poll.

It's all hypothetical of course but why not? Even though our games have been close we have outplayed our opponents and done so whith a nicked up team. USC will probably wind up #4 this week so we are 2 plays from being an undefeated team and with Floyd we are 6-0. Our defense does suck but the team can beat anybody.
 

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ND is definitely out of the top 25. Get to top 15 at best if we win out.

Oklahoma should be out of top 25.

Pitt should be in.

USC ranked 4th.

Cincy ranked 5th

Boise ranked 6th

Bama-1st
Texas-2nd
Florida-3rd

This is how I would have it right now.
 

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ND is definitely out of the top 25. Get to top 15 at best if we win out.

Oklahoma should be out of top 25.

Pitt should be in.

USC ranked 4th.

Cincy ranked 5th

Boise ranked 6th

Bama-1st
Texas-2nd
Florida-3rd

This is how I would have it right now.

Good call with the exception of ND, We'll be in there!
 

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ND is definitely out of the top 25. Get to top 15 at best if we win out.

Oklahoma should be out of top 25.

Pitt should be in.

USC ranked 4th.

Cincy ranked 5th

Boise ranked 6th

Bama-1st
Texas-2nd
Florida-3rd

This is how I would have it right now.

Texas 2nd? Have you seen them play? They've played a horseshit schedule, and have not looked impressive at all. Colorado totally outplayed them but good ol' Cody gave TX the game. McCoy has been horrible this year in comparison to the past 2 years. Turnover machine. OK is down, and their QB got hurt again, and they still were in the game.

FL hasn't been great either, but they're more impressive than TX, that is for sure. I guarantee you that if TX wins out, they will get absolutely hammered in the title game. But personally, I could see them losing before that.

Agree on Bama though. They've looked like the best team all year long. Although with that offense, I wouldn't be surprised if they lose a game before the SEC title game as well. All these teams are flawed, which makes me think they will all lose one game, save for FL. We'll see...
 

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We'll drop out of the Top 25, simply because of the media bias against Notre Dame.

Personally, I don't think 8-10 teams in the Top 25 could hang with USC, much less overcome a 20 point defecit, like we almost did.
 

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Personally, I don't think 8-10 teams in the Top 25 could hang with USC, much less overcome a 20 point defecit, like we almost did.[/QUOTE]

Tru dat, I think USC has one of the best D's in the country and if JC had been as relaxed all game as he was in the fourth quarter we would have put up 50.
 

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we are at 26, they kept a 3-3 oklahoma team in at 25 rather than us.

at least were not out of sight. pitt is 20.

thats ap.
 

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Personally, I don't think 8-10 teams in the Top 25 could hang with USC

Now wait a minute, people on here has been saying all week, that SC is overrated, now everybody is saying they are a team to contend with. I just wish people on here would see things how they really are, not the way they want to perceive it.......

So if we played Texas and loss a close game then everybody on here would say, oh not too many teams in the country could hang with them, give me a freakin break!!!!!!!
 

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We'll drop out of the Top 25, simply because of the media bias against Notre Dame.

Personally, I don't think 8-10 teams in the Top 25 could hang with USC, much less overcome a 20 point defecit, like we almost did.

Err... Media bias? Its the media bias that cost ND 2 games yah? We'll drop out of the Top25 simply because we lost.
 

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Now wait a minute, people on here has been saying all week, that SC is overrated, now everybody is saying they are a team to contend with. I just wish people on here would see things how they really are, not the way they want to perceive it.......

So if we played Texas and loss a close game then everybody on here would say, oh not too many teams in the country could hang with them, give me a freakin break!!!!!!!

I think Texas was one of those 8-10 teams he was referring to so whats your point. Not many said USC was overrated. I think there was just a general feeling of confidence and this USC team clearly isn't as dominant as ones in the past. There still a top 5 team easy, and neutral field I would honestly take them over anyone.
 

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CFN's analysis of the coach's poll:

Really, coaches, Oklahoma at 26? Did you actually watch what the defense did to Texas? What have Boise State and Cincinnati done to be ranked higher than Iowa and Miami? Oklahoma State is getting by now on preseason hype, no one must have seen how average the team has been, and apparently, no one gets Fox Sport Net and didn't see Kansas losing to Colorado. Arkansas pushes the No. 1 team in the country and doesn't get a sniff of the top 25? Notre Dame comes within a second of USC and isn't close? These are the people deciding your national championship.

I'm torn on Oklahoma. Yeah, three losses, but also almost beat the #3 team. Does anyone honestly think there are 25 teams better than OU?

I also don't think ND deserved to drop from 25. One second and four yards from tying the #4 team, and they drop from 25 to 30?

I think the coach's poll goes completely on record and reputation. There's obviously no way coaches watch all of these games. It's a dumb poll and I wish it didn't count.
 

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Time will take care - Penn St - with a 100+ SOS, Kansas at around 145 SOS and So.Florida around 146 - these numbers are from memory - ND SOS = 13 - we just win out and it takes care of itself. These teams won't win out.
 

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Time will take care - Penn St - with a 100+ SOS, Kansas at around 145 SOS and So.Florida around 146 - these numbers are from memory - ND SOS = 13 - we just win out and it takes care of itself. These teams won't win out.

I'm confused as to what those numbers mean. You can't be talking about SOS ranking... there are only 120 teams in FBS. How could teams have 145 SOS?

I've seen various SOS rankings, some saying that ND's is around the middle of the pack.
 

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I see that ND is at 36 in one ranking system. The SOS is a concern but what is a bigger concern--or should be--is winning each game impressively from here on out. The question is will the defense allow us to win impressively from here on out.....
 

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I seen something on espn that if nd wins 10 games they are an AUTOMATIC 14th ranking! What does this mean? it also said something about an automatic bcs berth? Am i reading into this wrong? Anybody have some insight?
 

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There you go ........just posted


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RK TEAM RECORD
1 Florida 6-0
2 Alabama 7-0
3 Texas 6-0
4 Boise State 6-0
5 Cincinnati 6-0
6 Iowa 7-0
7 USC 5-1
8 TCU 6-0
9 LSU 5-1
10 Miami (FL) 5-1
11 Oregon 5-1
12 Georgia Tech 6-1
13 Penn State 6-1
14 Virginia Tech 5-2
15 Oklahoma State 5-1
16 Brigham Young 6-1
17 Houston 5-1
18 Utah 5-1
19 Ohio State 5-2
20 Pittsburgh 6-1
21 Wisconsin 5-2
22 Arizona 4-2
23 West Virginia 5-1
24 South Carolina 5-2
25 Kansas 5-1
Complete Standings »
AP Top 25
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1 Alabama (39) 7-0 1447
2 Florida (20) 6-0 1434
3 Texas 6-0 1365
4 USC 5-1 1213
5 Cincinnati 6-0 1163
6 Boise State 6-0 1156
7 Iowa 7-0 1092
8 Miami (FL) 5-1 1056
9 LSU 5-1 1014
10 TCU 6-0 1001
11 Georgia Tech 6-1 861
12 Oregon 5-1 849
13 Penn State 6-1 753
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15 Virginia Tech 5-2 684
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17 Houston 5-1 478
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19 Utah 5-1 350
20 Pittsburgh 6-1 330
21 Texas Tech 5-2 286
22 West Virginia 5-1 205
23 South Carolina 5-2 159
24 Kansas 5-1 120
25 Oklahoma 3-3 117
Dropped from rankings: Nebraska 15, South Florida 21, Notre Dame 25
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2 Alabama (9) 7-0 1398
3 Texas (1) 6-0 1386
4 USC 5-1 1237
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6 Cincinnati 6-0 1104
7 TCU 6-0 1069
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17 Ohio State 5-2 481
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19 Pittsburgh 6-1 328
20 Utah 5-1 300
21 Kansas 5-1 222
22 West Virginia 5-1 188
23 South Carolina 5-2 142
24 Texas Tech 5-2 132
25 Mississippi 4-2 114
Dropped from rankings: Nebraska 17, Oklahoma 18, South Florida 21, Missouri 24, Notre Dame 25
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2 Florida
3 Texas
4 Cincinnati
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6 Iowa
7 Boise State
8 Miami (FL)
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10 TCU
11 Georgia Tech
12 Oregon
13 Penn State
14 Oklahoma State
15 Virginia Tech
16 Brigham Young
17 Houston
18 Pittsburgh
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20 Utah
21 Ohio State
22 Texas Tech
23 South Carolina
24 Kansas
25 Oklahoma


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CFN's analysis of the coach's poll:



I'm torn on Oklahoma. Yeah, three losses, but also almost beat the #3 team. Does anyone honestly think there are 25 teams better than OU?

I also don't think ND deserved to drop from 25. One second and four yards from tying the #4 team, and they drop from 25 to 30?

I think the coach's poll goes completely on record and reputation. There's obviously no way coaches watch all of these games. It's a dumb poll and I wish it didn't count.


5-1 Houston
4-2 Arizona
5-2 Wisconsin

Give me a fucking break. Not one of these teams is Top 25 material. I'm pretty sure ND would expose any of them.
 

tripsdad

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Didn't watch the Alabama-South Carolina game, but the score was 20-6, and they stay in the top 25 and we don't?!? Yeah, I know, if we win then the polls take care of themselves and there are 6 more games to go, but WTF?
 

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You know what.....Im beyond frustration with this......................... OSU shouldn't be in the top 25 at all. I F***ing HATE OSU almost as much as USC. people say we have a cupcake schedule. OSU's is a joke....

For as hard as we played USC and NOT getting pulverized in our 2 losses knowone else seems to give a turkey.............SOS different year in the BSCS










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