Tate=4.36

[irishfan]

at the combine. ran a 4.37 the second time.

 

[irishmarine]

That'll quiet any of the doubters! He's fast an chubby hahahahaha

 

[BearGB]

Yup! Congrats to Tate... he looked very fast running them too. They are saying some nice things about him as well.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Im gonna go out and say this, even though i know alot of people on here will not agree with me. If I were an NFL GM, i would take Tate before i would take Jimmy. Most QBs go big or bust, more often the later. Would be smarter to trade and get a QB with some experience under his belt than take a chance on building a franchise around a rookie. Tate is a threat every time he touches the ball.... Jimmy only time will tell.

 

[KPENN]

Impressive watching him i didnt think he was that fast

 

[BearGB]

Officially a 4.42

 

[Junkhead]

Officially a 4.42

How does 4.36 and 4.37 translate to 4.42? Not knocking you, just curious since I didn't see any of it.

 

[irishfan]

How does 4.36 and 4.37 translate to 4.42? Not knocking you, just curious since I didn't see any of it.

I know. Makes no sense. Kindve annoying because I was hoping for under 4.4 for him.

 

[KPENN]

Per nfl.com 4.42
NFL Events: Combine Top Performers

 

[BearGB]

Check the official times. ISD just reported it as well. It was kind of funny, because on NFL.com, I could hear Golden asking people what his official time was when Tebow was doing his 3-cone drill.

He asked a couple of times because I think that he was hoping to crack the 4.3s as well. However, 4.42 was still the fourth best for WRs - and certainly the best among the big-time prospects.

The NFL.com guys just had a nice interview with him, as he just finished his workout. He did a really nice job talking about what his strengths were, how he compares with Steve Smith, and what his experience was like at Notre Dame. He struggled a little bit in the gauntlet drill, where footballs are being thrown at you just about every second. However he really recovered well, and the analysts thought it tremendously helped his draft status.

p.s. He was wearing some sick "Michael Johnson-esque" golden Nike shoes...

 

[phork]

The problem with QBs is that you don't want to pass one up just in case that he is the "one". QB is such an integral part of any team. You can make do with a 2nd rate secondary, or a not so good DL. But if you have a crappy QB or a crappier OL then you won't be winning many games.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Notre Dame Football - Combine: Tate's Blazing 40

He also put up 225 bench 17 times, which was 7th best among WRs. Looking good for Golden.

 

[ryno 24]

Todd Mcshay was high on him I think he will be late first early second

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

He better slow down, otherwise the Raiders will want to draft him.... We all know how Granny Davis loves him some speed....

 

[DirtySecret]

He better slow down, otherwise the Raiders will want to draft him.... We all know how Granny Davis loves him some speed....

God no!!!

 

[jason_h537]

Had a 10 foot braod jump as well. Mayock and Irvin were both really high on him. Remember Tate is still raw as a wr so the sky's the limit for him.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Unless you are actually using Fully Automatic Timing equipment (complete with gun, computer and cameras) FAT conversions are "close enough." I don't know what the hand-held- to- FAT conversion is for the 40, but it is generally about .24 for the 100 and 200, and .14 for the 400 on up. Here is a discussion about it.

Time Conversion - Athletic.net Forums

Fully Automated Timing « Wayne Joseph’s Blog

" Under the old way of timing track meets stop watches were used to clock all the races, but there is an allowance that needs to be added to all hand times in order to account for delayed reaction starting the clock with the gun.

“If a runner is clocked at 11.24 seconds in the 100 meter dash on a stopwatch we need to round that up to 11.3 seconds and then allow for a .24 second slow reaction, which would make his time 11.54,” Martin explained.

The FAT system takes all the guess work out of timing runners as the gun is hooked into a computer system and the clock at the finish line captures photo images of each contestant in a precise method of timing.

“We no longer have to take long discussions to see who the winner was in a dead heat as it can now be settled in a few seconds using the computer photos. With the FAT system we can literally decide the winner between two runners who are but a jersey’s thickness apart at the finish,” Beck said.

 

[irish4ever]

It sounds as though he impressed them more w/ his "exposiveness" more so than his actual speed. That's great to hear. I hope that he excels no matter he ends up in the NFL.

 

[jason_h537]

The combine shouldnt make or break players but it should be used to further evaluate. Golden's numbers one prove to scouts that what Golden did was not because of the system or Flord or Clausen but because of his abilities. His only drawbacks are Height and route running. One can be overlooked the other will be more refined in the NFL. Someones gonna get a steal in the 2nd round if he drops that far

 

[Junkhead]

Unless you are actually using Fully Automatic Timing equipment (complete with gun, computer and cameras) FAT conversions are "close enough." I don't know what the hand-held- to- FAT conversion is for the 40, but it is generally about .24 for the 100 and 200, and .14 for the 400 on up. Here is a discussion about it.

Time Conversion - Athletic.net Forums

Fully Automated Timing « Wayne Joseph’s Blog

" Under the old way of timing track meets stop watches were used to clock all the races, but there is an allowance that needs to be added to all hand times in order to account for delayed reaction starting the clock with the gun.

“If a runner is clocked at 11.24 seconds in the 100 meter dash on a stopwatch we need to round that up to 11.3 seconds and then allow for a .24 second slow reaction, which would make his time 11.54,” Martin explained.

The FAT system takes all the guess work out of timing runners as the gun is hooked into a computer system and the clock at the finish line captures photo images of each contestant in a precise method of timing.

“We no longer have to take long discussions to see who the winner was in a dead heat as it can now be settled in a few seconds using the computer photos. With the FAT system we can literally decide the winner between two runners who are but a jersey’s thickness apart at the finish,” Beck said.

In track, the runners react to the gun, in the combine 40yd dash, the clock starts when the player moves. I assume the combine has to be electronically timed then.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

In track, the runners react to the gun, in the combine 40yd dash, the clock starts when the player moves. I assume the combine has to be electronically timed then.

I haven't watched, read, or studied how or what method of timing is used in the combine, but you and irish4ever both bring up good points. That is also why I asked for the source of info on the recruiting profiles forum. Did dad submit the time, or did his football coach submit the time (handheld, on the grass), or did his track coach submit the time on the track... I understand that Rivals and Scout etc... do their thing, but I was curious as to the timing "system" used for times reported. I assume they are hand-held and flawed, give or take by .2 - .3 seconds, as evidenced by Tate's initially reported time vs. the official...

Hand held watches that start after the athletes push off are delayed timing starts, and make the athlete look faster. FAT timing makes the athlete look slower. I suppose if you really want to get more precise about speed, maybe the best answer would be to have FAT timing that begins the moment the athlete pushes off of blocks at a certain force.

But since this is not a track meet, as long as timing is consistent and coaches are impressed with the athlete, that's all that matters. A 4.36 and a 4.42 aren't much of a difference when running routes. On the track, that difference is about an inch or so.

 

[NDOM]

I bet Tate could run faster than Bambi's slow ass. Hey Neutuered???? Whats your 40 time BIZZO? (Ndom laughing out loud as he eats his venison jerky)

 

[NDinL.A.]

Michael Irvin made a great point about the 40. This one WR (forget his name---Ford maybe?) ran the 2nd fastest 40 at the combine ever, but his head was down the whole time. That's not football speed, Michael said. He can't run that way on the field, as he needs to have his eyes up, reading the defense. The same WR did the gaunlet drill, and he was WAY slower, because he had to look up and find the QB and the ball.

Anyone who saw Tate last year knows he isn't slow, that he has great FOOTBALL speed. And now we know he has great speed, period...

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Michael Irvin made a great point about the 40. This one WR (forget his name---Ford maybe?) ran the 2nd fastest 40 at the combine ever, but his head was down the whole time. ...

Was it the recent combine? I noticed an athlete sprinting the 40, and he was looking down the entire time. Wondered what the hell he was doing.

 

[Riddickulous]

Nice 40. The hands drills, though...

There was one point where Golden dropped three passes in a row.

 

[The King of Ohio]

The forty is timed electronically but a lot of teams time them with a stop watch individually.

A lot of scouts at the combine were doubting the accuracy of the timing method. Everyone had Mays running a sub 4.3 on his first run and the timing machine had him above a 4.4
The nfl network put a time lapse of mays running against a guy that had a 4.3 and Mays beat him.
I hear a lot of teams go off their scouts time.