Seven Years Later...Here We Go Again

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Good Luck. My in-laws winter in Pass Christian, Mississippi. I have visited numerous times before and after Katrina. Seems like things were "just" getting back to normal. Although there is still a lot of stuff gone. Prayers are with you.
 
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We don't know what to expect yet. Compared to the ones we've had before this is supposed to be lighter, but it will depend on how much it strengthens in the Gulf.
 
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Every time I see a new map is seems to be projected further west. Hope it doesn't end up all the way near Texas.

But for the ones in the path I will be praying it is not that bad and that everyone stays safe.
 
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They are expecting winds to be at 105 mph when it makes landfall. They didn't say what category, but I think it would be at the upper end of a cat II. If I remember correctly, it's cat I 75-95, cat II 96-110, cat III 111-130, cat IV 131-155, cat V 156+. I studied that in the spring & I think those are correct. Where I am, Northeast Mississippi, they are predicting 30 mph winds & 8+ inches of rain. I can't sleep tonight because I have a huge Chemistry test in the morning and I have been doing last minute cramming. Turned the tv on a little while ago & was watching a local channel while I ate a snack & they were replaying tonight's news cast. Weatherman said that this storm would affect around 350 miles of beaches when it hit. This hurricane is massive. When he showed "FutureCast", once it makes landfall & goes inland, one end will be just inside Tenneessee when the bottom edge finally comes ashore. As I said before, THAT'S MASSIVE! My prayer ago out to everyone who will be affected by this storm either directly or indirectly.

GOD BLESS & GO IRISH GO!!!
 
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CAT 1 and probably won't get any worse. Should be fine. Of course, you never know....So here's to hoping for the best!

I expect we'll probably get some rain over here in Houston...
 
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Tropical Storm Isaac : Tracking Map | Weather Underground

Both NoLa and Baton Rouge are a zoo. On the drive out of the city this morning there was traffic backed up around 15 miles outside of Baton Rouge. Some was the normal commute, but the lower Parishes are being evacuated as well.

My neighbor is an electrical genius and is trying to rig my generator to power my house this afternoon...should be interesting. Times like this that make me grateful for having awesome people that live around you.
 
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scUM Hater said:
It doesn't matter, any amount of rain threatens a flood.
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Any time you build a city below sea level right next to the ocean any decent amount of rain is a bad thing. The storm strength wont be as strong as Katrina (what they are saying) but hopefully they took lessons from before and can take a better hit than before. Good luck guys and be safe.
 
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Prayers sent to you bud. Stay safe. and not to make light of the situation, but I saw this today and thought it was kind of funny.

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JadeBrecks said:
Any time you build a city below sea level right next to the ocean any decent amount of rain is a bad thing. The storm strength wont be as strong as Katrina (what they are saying) but hopefully they took lessons from before and can take a better hit than before. Good luck guys and be safe.
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Not sure if you can see it without registering, but this NYT article describes the new flood control structures completed by the Corps of Engineers since Katrina.

That, plus our major upgrades at Mayor and Governor, has me feeling a lot safer.

But still a little tense...

Here's the opening section of the article...

NEW ORLEANS — Finally, there is a wall around this city. Nearly seven years after flood waters from Hurricane Katrina gushed over New Orleans, $14.5 billion worth of civil works designed to block such surges is now in place — a 133-mile chain of levees, flood walls, gates and pumps too vast to take in at once, except perhaps from space.

Individual components of the system can be appreciated from a less celestial elevation. At the new Seabrook floodgate complex, climb up three steep ladders, open a trap door, and step out into the blazing sunlight atop a 54-foot tower that was not here just two years ago. From there one looks out over a $165 million barrier across the shipping canal that links Lake Pontchartrain, the Mississippi River and the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway.

Two “lift gates,” 50 feet across, can be lowered to block the waters of Lake Pontchartrain. A navigation gate 95 feet wide, whose curved sides weigh 220 tons apiece, can be swung gently but mightily into place. When open — which will be most of the time — the gates will allow easy boat traffic.

When a storm threatens, however, they will seal off the canal from the kind of surge that devastated the Lower Ninth Ward in Katrina.

Yet all that seems puny in comparison to the two-mile “Great Wall” that can seal off the channel from Lake Borgne to the east, or the billion-dollar west closure complex, which features the biggest pumping station on the planet.

Now, hurricane season has returned, as it does each June. Whatever storms might approach New Orleans this year or in the future, they will encounter a vastly upgraded ring of protection. The question is whether it will be enough.

When Katrina hit New Orleans in 2005, the city’s hurricane protection system became a symbol of America’s haphazard approach to critical infrastructure. The patchwork of walls and levees built over the course of 40 years was still far from complete when the storm came, and even the Army Corps of Engineers admitted that this was “a system in name only.” Flood walls collapsed, and earthen levees built from sandy, dredged soils melted away.

What has emerged since could come to symbolize the opposite: a vast civil works project that gives every appearance of strength and permanence. No other American city has anything like it. “This is the best system the greater New Orleans area has ever had,” said Col. Edward R. Fleming, the commander of the New Orleans district of the corps.
 
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The comparison was awesome! One of my colleagues is from Florida and he was talking about how they are so used to dealing with these storms that they sometimes say they are afterthoughts.

Update on the news tonight was to expect hurricane and tropical storm force winds for anywhere between 12 to 16 hours. To put that into perspective, that would be about twice as much as what we saw with Katrina and Gustav (the forgotten storm). That could potentially be catastrophic on a whole new level.

In all of this, I just want to make it to Saturday and see my boys play.
 
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The current track, 1 am Tuesday, has the storm striking NOLA in West Riverside about a half mile east of Children's Hospital and Audubon Park. About 3 miles west of the Superdome.

When my wife's niece was in med school in Grenada, Hurricane Ivan hit the school directly. It tore off the doors of the offcampus place she rented so when the eye passed over she ran for a better structure to ride out the rest of the storm. She flew out after the storm passed to the US mainland and but it got her a second time.

We understand NOAA now includes her GPS in their forecasting model for Hurricanes beginning with "I". And yes, she's now in New Orleans at Tulane Hospital.

Her principal advice, besides get the hell out of town, if you're riding out the storm is wear tied footgear. She and most of the med student in Grenada were wearing flipflops or sandals for Ivan and the wind, even in the eye, pulled them off. They had to walk through acres of broken glass and shards of broken wood and twisted metal - barefoot. Lots of cuts. WEAR Sneakers or shoes but Laced.

Be safe, people.
 
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Storm track seems to be sliding west a tad toward Thibadoux.
 
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Keep in mind...it's only a CAT 1. Katrina, at this point, was a CAT 5.

Big difference.

And as other posters have mentioned, they've finally used that tax payer money (the way it was supposed to be used) and done some great work on those levees.
 
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Cat 1 makes no difference in this case due to the storm being so large and lingering. It will hit two high tides which will possibly cause 20-foot waves. The flooding will be bad. Hopefully people did evacuate.
 
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AdmiralBackhand said:
Cat 1 makes no difference in this case due to the storm being so large and lingering. It will hit two high tides which will possibly cause 20-foot waves. The flooding will be bad. Hopefully people did evacuate.
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True. But with the work that's been done on the levees and the fact that the wind will be far less severe, I doubt that there is going to be the devestation there was 7 years ago.
 
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irishpat183 said:
Keep in mind...it's only a CAT 1. Katrina, at this point, was a CAT 5.

Big difference.

And as other posters have mentioned, they've finally used that tax payer money (the way it was supposed to be used) and done some great work on those levees.
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Bet'cha they move the school buses this time!

Of course, Uncle Sucker will just buy new ones again if they don't.
 
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AdmiralBackhand said:
Cat 1 makes no difference in this case due to the storm being so large and lingering. It will hit two high tides which will possibly cause 20-foot waves. The flooding will be bad. Hopefully people did evacuate.
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Then why is NHC Advisory 29 only forecasting 6-12 ft with high tide in S.E. LA?

The additional 60 mph from Cat 1 to Cat 4 would have substantial impact.
 
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I heard the number 20 from local news. I understand that higher winds could have a more devastating impact as well. Mostly I was saying that people shouldn't downplay this storm, by comparing it to Katrina.
 
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