Rosie Reaches Escape Velocity

[IRISHDODGER]

One of my aunts sounds like rosie almost. She is a socialist or commie, i dont know but here is what she said(and its a lies but its what she thought.) Well radical islamist are basically the same as radical catholics and christians. Did you know there is a school in atlanta to train christian suicide bombers? I just dont know how you can think that. Besides politics though shes pretty cool

I bet she's a trip to talk to. You know if there were such a thing in Atlanta, that the liberal media would be all over exposing that. Plus, Christianity isn't too fond of suicide regardless of its intent & I'm no bible scholar but I'm confident that there's nothing to misinterpret Christ's call to kill infiidels.

 

[notredomer23]

I bet she's a trip to talk to. You know if there were such a thing in Atlanta, that the liberal media would be all over exposing that. Plus, Christianity isn't too fond of suicide regardless of its intent & I'm no bible scholar but I'm confident that there's nothing to misinterpret Christ's call to kill infiidels.

shes from fort lauderdale so maybe the sun/heat/uv rays is getting to her head

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

since when did rosie ever become relevent?? I just feel bad for hottie Elizabeth, I hope she stays and gives the loudmouth a taste of her own medicine.


(f...k I WASTED MY 1,000 POST ON THAT B...H)

 

[Shark Attack]

shes from fort lauderdale so maybe the sun/heat/uv rays is getting to her head

I bet she's a trip to talk to. You know if there were such a thing in Atlanta, that the liberal media would be all over exposing that. Plus, Christianity isn't too fond of suicide regardless of its intent & I'm no bible scholar but I'm confident that there's nothing to misinterpret Christ's call to kill infiidels.

One thing that I was always reeeeaaallly surprised about the "liberal media" not jumping all over is back when the NY times and a bunch of other people were pointing fingers at the CIA and the Bush administration for running secret torture prisons in Europe which were fervently denied for months, and then they came out saying "yeah, they were there the whole time!"

How about that for the geneva convention.

And before you start spouting things about the productivity of torture, go talk to McCain.

Also, you guys forgot about the debate tactics of Bill O'Reilly - invite guests on his show to shout them down and cut off their microphones. It happens everywhere, and no side is better than the other. The only good political discussion happens when pundits on both sides are not a factor.

I've had quite enough of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists - it's sound in theory that an attack is made to consolidate control, but it's just ridiculous considering all of the debunking. The only conspiracy that has any leg to stand on is a pearl harbor-esque government non-intervention type story, and even that is a stretch on both historical accounts. I'm not one for watching or listening to talk shows anyway, so I guess it's hard for me to see what all the fuss is about. She's an idiot, lets move on.

 

[The Fly]

Here latest bit of idiocy from her blog

british hostages
Posted by ro on March 28th at 10:35pm in in the news
anderson cooper
wake up

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.

the british did it on purpose
into iranian waters
as
US MILITARY BUILD UP ON THE IRANIAN BORDER

we will be in iran
before summer
as planned

come on people
u have 2 c
i know u can

Why does she still have a job with ABC?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

One thing that I was always reeeeaaallly surprised about the "liberal media" not jumping all over is back when the NY times and a bunch of other people were pointing fingers at the CIA and the Bush administration for running secret torture prisons in Europe which were fervently denied for months, and then they came out saying "yeah, they were there the whole time!"

How about that for the geneva convention.

And before you start spouting things about the productivity of torture, go talk to McCain.

Also, you guys forgot about the debate tactics of Bill O'Reilly - invite guests on his show to shout them down and cut off their microphones. It happens everywhere, and no side is better than the other. The only good political discussion happens when pundits on both sides are not a factor.

I've had quite enough of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists - it's sound in theory that an attack is made to consolidate control, but it's just ridiculous considering all of the debunking. The only conspiracy that has any leg to stand on is a pearl harbor-esque government non-intervention type story, and even that is a stretch on both historical accounts. I'm not one for watching or listening to talk shows anyway, so I guess it's hard for me to see what all the fuss is about. She's an idiot, lets move on.

Umm, I didn't say liberals were the ONLY ones who talked over others. I agree, it's all grandstanding & showbiz, so please don't generalize. I prefer the likes of Laura Ingraham, Alan Colmes, Sean hannity, Bob Beckel & the liberal dude w/ stringy hair from Britain (forget his name).

As far as the geneva Convention, we're talking Brits vs. Iranians not Bush & the CIA. You can't justify the Brits being held hostage & violated based on what another country alledgedly did to their prisoners (not hostages). You're talking apples & oranges.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Here latest bit of idiocy from her blog




Why does she still have a job with ABC?

You want the truth? It's b/c she has 2 of the 3 boxes checked that says corporate employers can't touch her w/ a 10 ft. pole unless they want bad press via legal action.

 

[Mare426]

It blows my mind that people think because these people are so called celebrities that they know what they are talking about. Americans have got to be better informed and not by the likes of Rosie O'Donnell and Ann Coulter. You have to take the time and not listen to 30 or 60 second sound bites on the issues that are affecting this country.

 

[Shark Attack]

Umm, I didn't say liberals were the ONLY ones who talked over others. I agree, it's all grandstanding & showbiz, so please don't generalize. I prefer the likes of Laura Ingraham, Alan Colmes, Sean hannity, Bob Beckel & the liberal dude w/ stringy hair from Britain (forget his name).

As far as the geneva Convention, we're talking Brits vs. Iranians not Bush & the CIA. You can't justify the Brits being held hostage & violated based on what another country alledgedly did to their prisoners (not hostages). You're talking apples & oranges.

Sorry about the generalization.

I wasn't drawing up comparisons between the hostages currently and the CIA prisons, i was merely mentioning the fact that if the media was as through and through liberal as people are making it out to be, one would think there would have been more of an outcry when Bush made the announcement. Like an "I told you so" kind of a thing, or even a human rights kind of a thing.

In any case, talking brits vs. iranians, the US does not factor in, and the brits have been telling the US to stay out of the situation, and I pray to God that we don't listen to Bolton for once and not get involved. We've wasted any international capital that we've accumulated recently in the past six years to the point that we've become an explosive element in any sort of negotiations, and as a result, people are turning down our help.

 

[SillyIrish]

In any case, talking brits vs. iranians, the US does not factor in, and the brits have been telling the US to stay out of the situation, and I pray to God that we don't listen to Bolton for once and not get involved. We've wasted any international capital that we've accumulated recently in the past six years to the point that we've become an explosive element in any sort of negotiations, and as a result, people are turning down our help.

you are kidding yourself if you believe that for one second.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Why do people put so much stock in 'political capital' or 'international goodwill'?? Where did that get us with Saddam, N. Korea, Iran, Somalia, or anywhere/anyone else? All we did by not taking a strong stance was to prolong the inevitable with Iraq, give technology away to N. Korea (great move ms albright!), and look weak to the international community by leaving somalia with our tails tucked behind us.

I always hear how we need to earn and use political capital. When are OTHER countries required to gain this with us???? I don't see Russia, China, France, Germany, or anyone else bending over backward to help us in the past 30 years. When will the left demand that the international community share some responsibility with helping to control the bad guys, and stop blaming the US.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Despite what Rosie O'Fat says, Iran's gov't is evil...pure & simple. I'm sick of people pussyfootin' around when they try to criticize Iran. You can't reason w/ radical extremists. Israel is the "little Satan" & we are the "great Satan" in their eyes. They say as much to their countrymen. Watch their political rallies where they're leader preaches hatred & death to America & the audience replies in unison. It eerily reminds me of Hitler leading his masses in Nazi, Germany. No one ever thought they'd become allies w/ Russia. The Bible predicted it & it was scoffed at b/c those 2 nations were always opposed to ea. other or Russia was weakened post-Cold War. Not now. They're in bed together & the worst is yet to come. You can't sit down over tea & crumpets & reason w/ these maniacal murderers.

 

[Shark Attack]

This is getting ridiculous.

First off - as to political capital in the last 20 years, well, a lot of people helped out when we wanted in on Gulf War I. A lot of people offered help after 9/11. And a bunch of people are helping out in Iraq. Not to mention NATO and the cold war. Where does political capital get us? It gets us allies, and when we lose it, we get no allies. It's simple - you piss someone off, you can't expect them to come to your aide when you need them.

Moving on, to us, Iran's evil, to Iran, we're evil. Evil is a subjective term. Going on into prophecies from the Bible on modern day conflicts, into broad generalizations about the proactive few speaking for the rest of the islamic world, about political leaders preaching death and hatred, about nazi's and maniacal murders. It's far fetched, it's skewed, it's just ridiculous and i'm not even going to touch it with a ten foot pole.

I'm just going to leave this part of the forum all together - it's just getting more and more absurd every page.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

This is getting ridiculous.

First off - as to political capital in the last 20 years, well, a lot of people helped out when we wanted in on Gulf War I. A lot of people offered help after 9/11. And a bunch of people are helping out in Iraq. Not to mention NATO and the cold war. Where does political capital get us? It gets us allies, and when we lose it, we get no allies. It's simple - you piss someone off, you can't expect them to come to your aide when you need them.

Moving on, to us, Iran's evil, to Iran, we're evil. Evil is a subjective term. Going on into prophecies from the Bible on modern day conflicts, into broad generalizations about the proactive few speaking for the rest of the islamic world, about political leaders preaching death and hatred, about nazi's and maniacal murders. It's far fetched, it's skewed, it's just ridiculous and i'm not even going to touch it with a ten foot pole.

I'm just going to leave this part of the forum all together - it's just getting more and more absurd every page.

A lot of people didn't help US out, we helped them out. Big difference. A bunch of nations were more worried about making money in Iraq, not doing the right thing, and the left says we are to blame for 'going it alone'. In bed with Saddam?? Gee, I wonder why they didn't help??? That is rediculous! As far as allies go, we don't need allies that stab us in the back, while pretending to take the high road. There is no such thing as allies or friends, only shared interests.

We're evil???..geez, we never heard someone on the left bash America before. As far as Iran preaching death and destruction..they do wish death to us and Israel, which is why we are at war to begin with..or don't you remember the islamists attacking us all over the globe for the last 16 years.

As far as leaving the forum...the hate America crowd is gathering in the room towards the back, right between the 'US govt behind 9-11 conspiracy' symposium and the 'Global warming is our fault' campaign.

We, the ignorant, who actually think the US is the good guy, also suggest that Mexico is warm, and Canada is a nice place to settle down.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

This is getting ridiculous.

First off - as to political capital in the last 20 years, well, a lot of people helped out when we wanted in on Gulf War I. A lot of people offered help after 9/11. And a bunch of people are helping out in Iraq. Not to mention NATO and the cold war. Where does political capital get us? It gets us allies, and when we lose it, we get no allies. It's simple - you piss someone off, you can't expect them to come to your aide when you need them.

Moving on, to us, Iran's evil, to Iran, we're evil. Evil is a subjective term. Going on into prophecies from the Bible on modern day conflicts, into broad generalizations about the proactive few speaking for the rest of the islamic world, about political leaders preaching death and hatred, about nazi's and maniacal murders. It's far fetched, it's skewed, it's just ridiculous and i'm not even going to touch it with a ten foot pole.

I'm just going to leave this part of the forum all together - it's just getting more and more absurd every page.

My bad. You're right. Iran is just a docile, misunderstood nation who practice a peaceful religion that, in no way, means any harm to Christians and Jews. They're also a very open & liberal country in that they openly accept all religious & racial factions in addition to homosexuality & women's rights. Gimme a break.

Have you seen video of their leader speaking to the masses? You go ahead and listen to Katie Couric & Rosie O'Donnell. Wonder how they'd enjoy living in Iran? "A proactive few speaking for the rest of the islamic world"? Well those "few" are their damn leaders. I don't see Bush inciting the citizens to end Islam by any means necessary. You need to take the filter off your mainstream media. The radical Islamists want us all dead. Does that include all followers of Islam? Of course not. But, if they don't wake up and address their radical, jihadist faction, it's only going to get worse.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

What he said!

Of course, the left always believes that talking and appeasement actually solves problems. If that were true, we would not have had to invade Iraq twice to get them to adhere to world (I hate to call it demands, since few countries actually want to involve themselves) opinion.
Islamic extremists have declared war on us. They don't want to talk, or negotiate, or have a truce. They are waiting for opportunity and ability, which could happen if Iran gets nukes.
I suggest reading some of the statements put out by the leader of Iran. Clearly a psycho, who many believe, was involved in the embassy takeover in carter's regime. He wants to weaken us, so that he can dominate the region. I know, let's withdraw from Iraq now, so that he can do so, and once again, not finish the job.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Don't be so judgemental, close-minded & downright mean, Stoney. Don't you know that maniacal, radical, jihadist Iranians have feelings, too? For shame.................

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I know what the answer is..we could ship all of our illegal immigrants to the middle east, and let them change their culture like they are changing ours. Pretty soon, the arabs will be in lowriders, eating tacos, and have bilingual demands on their schools. Not to mention margaritas and bullfights.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Don't be so judgemental, close-minded & downright mean, Stoney. Don't you know that maniacal, radical, jihadist Iranians have feelings, too? For shame.................

Sorry man, I forgot. I guess we should turn the other cheek and let them kill us. I keep forgetting that America is bad, we are bullies and warmongers, and that Hillary will reason with those nice people.

How could I have been so wrong!

 

[Shark Attack]

I didn't say we're evil, I said evil is subjective. But i guess twisting words is in your nature?

We helped them out? Tell that to Britain and Poland who were really the only other significant players in our invasion of Iraq. You didn't even bother to address the countries who came with us to Gulf War I. Tell, me, if there's only shared interests, what was Poland's significant interest in Iraq? I highly doubt that Saddams hit-list was 1. America 2. Britain 3. Poland or any arrangement thereof.

Yes, Islamic extremists have declared war on them, so fine, bomb the shit out of them, but you're sitting here telling me the entire nation of Iran is comprised of Islamic extremists. You're now talking about a country that you know nearly nothing about. Have you ever been there? From what it sounds like you haven't. You've seen videos. And you're telling me to take off my media filter...

ahmadinejad is clearly a lunatic, he's a holocaust denier, so it's not a question of whether or not he's an extremist or not, but get this novel concept, not everybody supports him. I know, crazy, right? Here in the US, everyone is united behind our President, so that what he says is an accurate representation of what we believe.

Do you know anything about Islam except that it's a bloodthirsty intolerant religion that wants the US dead and gone? Go out and buy a copy of the Koran, better yet, go out and buy a history of the middle east textbook. Take your advice to me and remove your media filter.

Talk about the ignorant...

Anyways, I'll take you up on that matter and head on over to Canada before we start basing our foreign policy on broad generalizations stemming from a distorted world-view painted by conservative radio pundits.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Guess who's back...back again..

To liberals, everything is subjective, there is no black and white, only grey. NOT.

I don't need to buy the effen koran, I don't want to read it, all I need to know, is that the crazy f.....rs in their religion want us to convert, or kill us. Understanding them will not prevent them from killing YOU.

It's always the liberals that throw out the word ignorant on others...never fails. LOL

Yeah, how dumb are we to want to stand up to those who have attacked us at our embassies, ships, NYC, and our capital.

You have friends in Canada, they are called draft dodgers. Smoke dope, make love, bash your country.

 

[ShivaIrish]

It eerily reminds me of Hitler leading his masses in Nazi, Germany. No one ever thought they'd become allies w/ Russia. The Bible predicted it & it was scoffed at b/c those 2 nations were always opposed to ea. other

Where in the Bible does it say that?

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'm not sure the Bible relates to our discussion much. I think that dissent is great, but actively harming American interests by badmouthing the troops and the mission, is unforgivable.

 

[Shark Attack]

Couldn't stay away, old habits and all that

I think the reason liberals use the word "ignorant" to describe people is because of the "I don't need to be educated on the subject as long as I know what my pal Rush thinks". The word just sort of, i dunno, fits.

If you read the koran or actually knew anything about islam it's that it doesn't say convert everbody or kill. Just like the Bible doesn't actually say that God hates gay people. Take is as you will. The Islamic Jihadists are very comparable to the extreme bible thumpers that bomb abortion clinics, except the Jihadists live in a more disorganized place and as a result, can have a bigger impact on the world. Saying that muslims just want to kill or convert us is like saying that all americans are exactly like rosie. It's not true, in fact, only a very slim percentage of people see things her way, but if they're extremely vocal about it, like rosie, and if they act on their beliefs, it's going to come across differently.

I really don't think i've badmouthed the troops, and if i have i really sincerely apologize for that. Several of my college buddies were in the ROTC and are in Iraq now. I support them and think that with their given resources and leadership, they're doing a bang up job. However, saying that dissent is great as long as you don't disagree with our foreign policy, to me seems a contradiction in terms....

 

[ShivaIrish]

I'm not sure the Bible relates to our discussion much. I think that dissent is great, but actively harming American interests by badmouthing the troops and the mission, is unforgivable.

I'm not sure either, but Dodger said that the Bible predicted the Nazi alliance, and I, for one, am curious about the claim.

 

[ShivaIrish]

I support them and think that with their given resources and leadership, they're doing a bang up job. However, saying that dissent is great as long as you don't disagree with our foreign policy, to me seems a contradiction in terms....

Well said.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I guess that is a tough one. I think that perhaps what I am looking for is ideas. Biden proffered a suggestion that Iraq be split up into 3 separate parts. I'm not sure if that's the way to go, but at least it was constructive to the situation. Mistakes were made, to be sure, but I think most Americans want everyone to help solve the problem, and not JUST point fingers. We began this thing with, what I believe, were good intentions, let's not have ending in Iraq where we caused more harm than good.

 

[notredomer23]

I'm not sure either, but Dodger said that the Bible predicted the Nazi alliance, and I, for one, am curious about the claim.

It did,( not really but sort of) what these so called "code finders" did was take letters out of random words from genesis or something like that and they made it so that it said that. no joke.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I didn't say we're evil, I said evil is subjective. But i guess twisting words is in your nature?

We helped them out? Tell that to Britain and Poland who were really the only other significant players in our invasion of Iraq. You didn't even bother to address the countries who came with us to Gulf War I. Tell, me, if there's only shared interests, what was Poland's significant interest in Iraq? I highly doubt that Saddams hit-list was 1. America 2. Britain 3. Poland or any arrangement thereof.

Yes, Islamic extremists have declared war on them, so fine, bomb the shit out of them, but you're sitting here telling me the entire nation of Iran is comprised of Islamic extremists. You're now talking about a country that you know nearly nothing about. Have you ever been there? From what it sounds like you haven't. You've seen videos. And you're telling me to take off my media filter...

ahmadinejad is clearly a lunatic, he's a holocaust denier, so it's not a question of whether or not he's an extremist or not, but get this novel concept, not everybody supports him. I know, crazy, right? Here in the US, everyone is united behind our President, so that what he says is an accurate representation of what we believe.

Do you know anything about Islam except that it's a bloodthirsty intolerant religion that wants the US dead and gone? Go out and buy a copy of the Koran, better yet, go out and buy a history of the middle east textbook. Take your advice to me and remove your media filter.

Talk about the ignorant...

Anyways, I'll take you up on that matter and head on over to Canada before we start basing our foreign policy on broad generalizations stemming from a distorted world-view painted by conservative radio pundits.

I thought you weren't coming back to this thread? No one said there's no peaceful Muslims...you're putting words in our mouths. But at least you admit that their leader is an infidel hating maniac. I saw an Iranian video of their leader speaking & the crowd responding in unison against America wishing us death along w/ "Allah Akbar". I don't think anyone needs to edit homemade videos to put the Iranian leaders in a negative light...do you? I sure as hell am not gonna let some overweight bull dyke tell me how it really is based on conspiracy theories.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Where in the Bible does it say that?

I should have clarified. I didn't mean the Nazis & the Russians. I meant the Iranians & the Russians were prophesied to unite before the End Times. This was prophesied beginning in Ezekiel 38 discussing Gog & Magog. The lands mentioned when translated to a modern Atlas point to Iran & Russia. This prediction was not given a lot of credence for years b/c the 2 nations never really got along...until now. I'm sure you've seen Putin & the Iranian leader shaking hands & then the Ayatollah speaking to the masses about the obvious benefit of Russia uniting w/ Iran & that they should be vs. America as well b/c we were the reason for the USSR downfall.

The Nazi comparison came when I saw the Iranian leader spewing propaganda to his people & the Iranian people replying in unison just as "Heil Hitler" was replied by the German people to their leader when he spewed his propaganda. I'm, by no means, a bible scholar (but I'm trying to learn more as I grow in my Christian faith). But, I'm intrigued w/ Daniel & Revelations & the talk of End Times b/c there's so much chaos in today's world & it all seems to revolve around the Middle East where Babylon once stood. Not saying we're near End Times, but it gets one thinking b/c the future ain't looking too bright in regards to harmony amongst the radical (not the peaceful, shark) Muslims & the rest of the world.