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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I've seen more US police execution videos than ISIS execution videos in the last year.</p>— The Public Archive (@public_archive) <a href="https://twitter.com/public_archive/status/540236296090681344">December 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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That guy live in Neverland or something? Because I have not seen a single Police execution video, this year, in the US.
 

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Actually, he said that the vast majority support having to prove your id before you can vote. That's not really the same. You can support a concept, but disagree with how the government chooses to implement that concept.

Fair point but still have not seen anything that show that is the case.
 
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Charles Barkley is great, he always speaks his mind and seems to be really down to earth. Great guy.

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Yeah this case is the biggest fucking travesty. Murder on camera and not even a trial. They said there was no probable cause for a crime for something that was ruled a fucking homicide and we have on video. We watch a man get killed by someone else and there's not even a trial. This country. This world. Awful.
 
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Kenny Smith’s open letter to Charles Barkley about Ferguson | For The Win

Dear Chuck,

I hope this finds you in the way I always see you, in great spirits, with great joy and full of life. There are some things I want to openly say to you that sometimes in conversation get lost.

Firstly I lied! You ARE the greatest Power Forward of all time. It’s not (Tim) Duncan or (Karl) Malone, they had size and height that you weren’t blessed with and you never had near the talent around you that they were blessed to have. Contrarily you took your teams to similar heights. Secondly, you are a champion in my book. Effort and determination is what makes a champion, not a ring.

Lastly, you are the most entertaining person in sports television (partly because I throw you so many assists lol).

However, what I consistently find interesting is how writers and media members view your insights in politics, and now race relations, with the same reverence as your insights in sports.

They did it in the Trayvon Martin trial and now with Mike Brown and the decision in Ferguson. It’s not that you shouldn’t ever have an opinion, but you are often quoted alongside the likes of Al Sharpton and even President Obama. I would hope that Sharpton or President Obama would never be referenced with you when picking the next NBA Champs!

The body of work that our Black Civil Rights leaders put in by planning, executing and activating does not justify you being in the conversation. While your body of work on the court very few compare to nor should be mentioned when you are giving your expert analysis. Again, I respect that you have an opinion on Ferguson. And here’s mine.

The question must be asked: Why is there so much distrust in the police and the legal system from the African American community? Without manifesting what the effects of slavery still have today, Dec 1st still marks only 59 years since Rosa Parks sat on that memorable bus. Many of our parents and grandparents have lived through those times and have passed those stories on to all of us. Those civil rights changes were at one time the law! They were not illegal.

So did the protection of the law by the courts and police make it right? Obviously not, so as African Americans we still know and feel that there are laws and jurisdictions that severely penalize the poor and, most importantly, African Americans greater than any other group. Some laws were initially made without us as equals in mind; that’s just the facts. So the thought process that it’s not for us or by us will unfortunately lead to distrust.

When someone is in “the struggle”, which many of our black communities are in, they are living with a lack of educational facilities, high unemployment and poor recreational facilities. The masses involved in “the struggle” will react in several ways. They can overcome it, challenge it, live in it, or fall victim to it … For those of us who are decades removed from “the struggle” because of our life through sports or business, we now have to acknowledge that every option listed exists. If not, then we are the ignorant ones.

That leads me to the looters and civilians burning buildings which you referred to as “scumbags”. Here’s an analogy: If you put 100 people on an island with no food, no water, no hope of a ship coming, then some will overcome it and be resourceful, some will live in it, others will panic and others will show horrific character, which is wrong. But not to understand that all alternatives are possible is wrong as well.

I was also disheartened to see the reaction of burning buildings and looters by some. However, when you are in “The Struggle” to not expect that that potential reaction is foolish on our part.

The real issue is learning to positively manage your anger so you can be heard. It’s not that they are “scumbags”, their emotions won’t allow them to rationally think through their anger. I applaud that you have done a great job in your anger management in recent times … but not always.

Mike Brown wasn’t about race relations, nor Trayvon Martin or even Hurricane Katrina for that matter. It’s about trust. Do I trust you to help me off the island? If so, do you have my best interests at heart? Do I trust that you will you send a ship or allow me access to build my own ship?

And you were right Chuck, let’s not discredit that there are great police officers in all neighborhoods, but let’s not credit that we shouldn’t have doubt.

See you Thursday night!

Kenny Smith
 
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Yeah they're scumbags just like someone who spit on a child, threw a man through a window, and got a DUI. But Killer Mike gets dismissed in this thread for out of context lyrics.
 
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Yeah this case is the biggest fucking travesty. Murder on camera and not even a trial. They said there was no probable cause for a crime for something that was ruled a fucking homicide and we have on video. We watch a man get killed by someone else and there's not even a trial. This country. This world. Awful.

You're talking about this one, right?

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Dillon Taylor's murder was terrible as well. It also shows the failure of body cams and how brutal police are these days.
 
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But Garner's was worse since he did nothing and died horribly and the only person who was arrested was the guy who took the video and he went 7 minutes without CPR and he was a father of 6.
 
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But it says a lot when that's the only white name you bring up. Could also bring up Kelly Thomas which might be worse than Garner and Taylor.

But I'm sure you'll tell me why Garner deserved to die.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"The time for remorse was when my husband was yelling to breathe," said Eric Garner's widow. <a href="http://t.co/CECsVHgMRi">http://t.co/CECsVHgMRi</a> <a href="http://t.co/x7ShPe3nWZ">pic.twitter.com/x7ShPe3nWZ</a></p>— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamilSmith/status/540353067456413696">December 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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But it says a lot when that's the only white name you bring up. Could also bring up Kelly Thomas which might be worse than Garner and Taylor.

But I'm sure you'll tell me why Garner deserved to die.

I knew that there was video of his death at the hands of a police officer of a different race and that there was no trial. That's why I specifically used Taylor's death.

I never said that Brown deserved to die, so I am not sure why you would think that I would tell you why Garner deserved to die.
 
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You told me why Darrien Hunt deserved to die because you believed the cop's story. He was on hallucinogens (he wasn't) and he swung his toy sword at a cop, so it's okay he was shot in the back.
 
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